List Mgmt. 2023 National Draft prospects

[Dead Eye Didak]

Now that the North and Suns draft day is over, hopefully on day two when other clubs can fully participate, we can snare Logan Morris. I feel though the Tigers may take him with their selection.....

 

[satanshoof101]

I think DeMattia will be a great pick up, serious speed and looks tough. On the kayo stream of the draft was compared to Ed Richards

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Ed Richards

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.4

4star

MG

201.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.3

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

198.3

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

232.4

4star

which if he is anything like Ed I will be happy.

But I also feel like we have Reef, Allen, Harrison, McCreery who are all fast players are looking to play midfield. Probably not taking Nobles spot.

If we are after Smith or Holmes next year without a first I would have been happy to trade our first pick for a future first but maybe there were no calls.

I hope we go with Logan Morris with our next pick. I hope Eyre and Dean can make it but are still speculative that they can cut it AFL level.

Searching the state leagues for KPP is easier said than done. But who knows.

 

[VinnieB]

29 picked in the “first round” this competition is beyond a joke

I don't tend to have a go at theAFL, however, to allow a club to match 4 bids in round 1, and to shower another club with 1st round picks after providing assistance in previous seasons suggests there is a real problem with where this is at.

Apparently GC will need more points to match bids on academy players again next season. There should be a limit on how many 1st round bids you can match.

As for North? Just nothing short of embarrassing.

 

[Harry O]

Possible picks tonight -
30 West Coast Schoenmsker
31 Lions O Murphy
32 Geel A Roberts
33 Saints M Edwards
34 Carlton C Simpson
35 Richmond L Morris
36 Geel A Hastie or G Stevens
37 Coll A Reid or T Jiath

Other players - A O’Driscoll, L Lual K Sanchez, ZZ, L Lloyd , C Hall, K Sanchez S Mannagh

Not beyond possibility that we don’t rate anyone at 37 and trade the pick in to 2024

 

[KinderSmock]

Payne kid from Tassie?

He’ll be a Wednesday kid.

 

[No SPIN]

You must be new here on draft day. It’s a tradition to bag Dekka for never drafting anyone tall that can play key positions unless they are a F/S. At least it’s my tradition and I’ll keep it up until someone does something to change it.

So winning a flag is not enough evidence you’re wrong!!!

 

[KinderSmock]

Best available for Collingwood is what matters That would be Ollie Murphy or Logan Morris… and potentially address a long term KPP list need with those players

Or we arbitrarily take ‘best available’ mid and end up with another mid like Rantall or Goodyear who were only chosen because of their running ability

… and who will languish in the VFL til they are delisted

Best available… without taking into account positional need… is just lazy recruiting imo

And then we have to pay $$$ to recruit someone to fill a need.

 

[Prexm]

Possible picks tonight -
30 West Coast Schoenmsker
31 Lions O Murphy
32 Geel A Roberts
33 Saints M Edwards
34 Carlton C Simpson
35 Richmond L Morris
36 Geel A Hastie or G Stevens
37 Coll A Reid or T Jiath

Other players - A O’Driscoll, L Lual K Sanchez, ZZ, L Lloyd , C Hall, K Sanchez S Mannagh

Not beyond possibility that we don’t rate anyone at 37 and trade the pick in to 2024

Does anyone know when the minimum primary list of 36 has to be finalised. If we don’t take another pick tonight we would only have 34, even one pick falls us short at 35. Do we have to elevate more rookies after the draft if we are short.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I think DeMattia will be a great pick up, serious speed and looks tough. On the kayo stream of the draft was compared to Ed Richards which if he is anything like Ed I will be happy.

But I also feel like we have Reef, Allen, Harrison, McCreery who are all fast players are looking to play midfield. Probably not taking Nobles spot.

If we are after Smith or Holmes next year without a first I would have been happy to trade our first pick for a future first but maybe there were no calls.

I hope we go with Logan Morris with our next pick. I hope Eyre and Dean can make it but are still speculative that they can cut it AFL level.

Searching the state leagues for KPP is easier said than done. But who knows.

It's highly unlikely any tall kid picked in the draft is going to be playing afl next year anyway. I'd say Dean, Eyre are a better chance for next season.

Or bring in an older, more experienced player from elsewhere.

 

[KinderSmock]

I don't tend to have a go at theAFL, however, to allow a club to match 4 bids in round 1, and to shower another club with 1st round picks after providing assistance in previous seasons suggests there is a real problem with where this is at.

Apparently GC will need more points to match bids on academy players again next season. There should be a limit on how many 1st round bids you can match.

As for North? Just nothing short of embarrassing.

If you’re short for money? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

If you can’t recruit? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

If you can’t recruit, suck and have no money? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

If your entire game plan sucks? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

Why win flags when the AFL can prop you up? We’re all about equality here!

 

[JuniorB]

Of all the teams to pick Moir, it had to be Carlton, fmd, I really hate them now

NOW!? I've always hated the scum.

 

[No SPIN]

Best available for Collingwood is what matters That would be Ollie Murphy or Logan Morris… and potentially address a long term KPP list need with those players

Or we arbitrarily take ‘best available’ mid and end up with another mid like Rantall or Goodyear who were only chosen because of their running ability

… and who will languish in the VFL til they are delisted

Best available… without taking into account positional need… is just lazy recruiting imo

This logic is a little puzzling.
You want to select a “worse” player to fill a need, who clearly has deficiencies, and therefore unlikely to make it.
That’s the definition of a list clogger!!!

 

[doofdoof]

If you’re short for money? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

If you can’t recruit? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

If you can’t recruit, suck and have no money? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

If your entire game plan sucks? Don’t worry, the AFL will prop you up.

Why win flags when the AFL can prop you up? We’re all about equality here!

Draft well, recruit well, manage the cap well, hire great coaches, keep adding members, be financially self-sufficient, prop up other clubs with crowds at their home games, win the flag ....... no level playing field for you, we'll just keep giving others extra to try and bring you down.

 

[JuniorB]

It's a fair point, but you can pick for need and end up with McLarty or McMahan.

If we'd gone best available in the McLarty year apparently we would have gone Tom Stewart but the coaches wanted a genuine KPP.

Or we could have gone for Nick Larkey - now there's a genuine KPP.

 

[Harry O]

Does anyone know when the minimum primary list of 36 has to be finalised. If we don’t take another pick tonight we would only have 34, even one pick falls us short at 35. Do we have to elevate more rookies after the draft if we are short.

I think we could pass tonight and fill the 2 main list vacancies via SSP or Delisted FA or PSD

 

[sr36]

Best available for Collingwood is what matters That would be Ollie Murphy or Logan Morris… and potentially address a long term KPP list need with those players

Or we arbitrarily take ‘best available’ mid and end up with another mid like Rantall or Goodyear who were only chosen because of their running ability

… and who will languish in the VFL til they are delisted

Best available… without taking into account positional need… is just lazy recruiting imo

Pick in the 30s in a supposedly shallow draft - we'll be doing very well if we end up with an AFL standard player not sure why you'd reduce the chances of getting an AFL player by crossing off half the field as they're not the player type you want.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

So, you only hated them before?
I already really, REALLY hated them, so I'm not sure where I go with this new reason to hate them more.

Really?

 

[sr36]

So, you only hated them before?
I already really, REALLY hated them, so I'm not sure where I go with this new reason to hate them more.

Yeah, they're already at maximum hate. All that draft selection has done is ensure that Moir is part of the hate. What an absolute spacker. Can't believe the Blues picked that complete and utter dud.

 

[satanshoof101]

It's highly unlikely any tall kid picked in the draft is going to be playing afl next year anyway. I'd say Dean, Eyre are a better chance for next season.

Or bring in an older, more experienced player from elsewhere.

I agree they probably won’t play, but that doesn’t mean you don’t pick up a player. If you pick a mid/fwd who averages 18 disposals probably won’t play next year as well. Let’s see what Madgen is doing.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I agree they probably won’t play, but that doesn’t mean you don’t pick up a player. If you pick a mid/fwd who averages 18 disposals probably won’t play next year as well. Let’s see what Madgen is doing.

I'm not suggesting we don't pick a tall player if there is still one available that's worth picking. Of course we should.

But this insistence on picking a tall player in the draft because we have the need now & as a replacement for say, Murphy, if he were to retire is not going to cut it. Any tall we get in the draft will still need to be developed & more than likely not be playing seniors next year anyway.

 

[manicpie]

Yeah, they're already at maximum hate. All that draft selection has done is ensure that Moir is part of the hate. What an absolute spacker. Can't believe the Blues picked that complete and utter dud.

Lets hope he moves in with Keeler and they can train together

 

[soreplums]

Might be time to start getting in the ear of a few young North mids For a couple years time.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I feel like Pies fans now want a big gorilla type key forward to retroactively make up for the fact that we've spent 8 years or so without one - despite us now having moved entirely away from having a gorilla type key forward suiting our game plan.

 

[manicpie]

I feel like Pies fans now want a big gorilla type key forward to retroactively make up for the fact that we've spent 8 years or so without one - despite us now having moved entirely away from having a gorilla type key forward suiting our game plan.

I think most want Logan Morris with our next pick, hardly a gorilla

 

[Harry O]

My preference at 37 tonight in order -

L Morris
A Reid
O Murphy
T Jiath
A Hastie

Hopefully one gets to us