NFL 2023 NFL - Week 17

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FRIDAY, DECEMBER 29 @ 12:15 PM
New York Jets at Cleveland LIVE

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 31 @ 12:15 PM
Detroit at Dallas LIVE

MONDAY, JANUARY 1 @ 5:00 AM
Arizona at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Chicago
Carolina at Jacksonville
Las Vegas at Indianapolis LIVE
Los Angeles Rams at New York Giants
Miami at Baltimore LIVE
New England at Buffalo
New Orleans at Tampa Bay LIVE
San Francisco at Washington
Tennessee at Houston

MONDAY, JANUARY 1 @ 8:05 AM
Pittsburgh at Seattle LIVE

MONDAY, JANUARY 1 @ 8:25 AM
Cincinnati at Kansas City LIVE
Los Angeles Chargers at Denver

MONDAY, JANUARY 1 @ 12:20 PM
Green Bay at Minnesota LIVE

AUSTRALIAN T.V. GAMES
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12:15 PM ON 29/12: New York Jets at Clevelands
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12.00 PM ON 31/12: Detroit at Dallas
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 5.00 AM ON 1/1: Miami at Baltimore
LIVE ON ESPN2/KAYO AT 5.00 AM ON 1/1: Las Vegas at Indianapolis
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 5.00 AM ON 1/1: New Orleans at Tampa Bay
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 8.05 AM ON 1/1: Pittsburgh at Seattle
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 8.25 AM ON 1/1: Cincinnati at Kansas City
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12.15 PM ON 1/1: Green Bay at Minnesota

LIVE ON watchESPN AT 5:00 AM on 1/1: NFL RedZone

NB: VIC, NSW, TAS times
less 30 mins SA
less 1 hour QLD
less 1.5 hours NT
less 3 hours WA

 

[aussiedude]

If it wasnt for Dan Quinn we would be sitting on 6-7 wins.

McCarthy is a fraud.

Quinn's 2min defense wasnt looking too hot

 

[rumply]

Ref saying 70 reported & 68 didn't. He said, she said.

 

[Big Unit 30]

 

[Chism]

Quinn's 2min defense wasnt looking too hot

Since he took over we have been chalk and cheese. Took over a defense that was near last in both takeaways and yards allowed to top 5 in the league every season he has been in charge.

Cant complain with that at all and you cant stop every team every week like you are the 85 Bears!

 

[manureid]

As an aside, for the game winning play at the end are you going to throw short of the line to a bloke who may be your 3rd string TE or something (to be fair I have no idea who that bloke was so I could be underselling him). However, you have at least 4 or 5 genuine playmates to go to and don't.

 

[reubski23]

Its easy to point at that play. but really coaching on both sides were horrible.

I mean the play was the difference between winning and losing so yes - it is very easy to point to that play

 

[aussiedude]

As an aside, for the game winning play at the end are you going to throw short of the line to a bloke who may be your 3rd string TE or something (to be fair I have no idea who that bloke was so I could be underselling him). However, you have at least 4 or 5 genuine playmates to go to and don't.

He is the starting left tackle.

 

[reubski23]

If the Lions kicked the FG rather than have a failed 4th and goal they win, If Dallas dont throw 4 incompletions in the final 5 mins the Lions never have the time to get that final TD.

Lions also should have kicked the PAT after the penalty. It was a coaching effort on both sidelines Brandon Staley would be proud of.

That’s a total false equivalency- they get the 2PT conversion there the game is basically over

 

[drd23]

He is the starting left tackle.

Pretty sure manu is talking about the final 2pt attempt where James Mitchell was targeted and the throw was short of of the EZ

 

[manureid]

Pretty sure manu is talking about the final 2pt attempt where James Mitchell was targeted and the throw was short of of the EZ

Yep, this play. Not the one that 'won' the game.

 

[Chism]

That’s a total false equivalency- they get the 2PT conversion there the game is basically over

30 seconds and 1 time out to get into FG range for Aubrey who apparently can hit from 70yds.

Not totally out of the question but we will never know.

 

[rumply]

As an aside, for the game winning play at the end are you going to throw short of the line to a bloke who may be your 3rd string TE or something (to be fair I have no idea who that bloke was so I could be underselling him). However, you have at least 4 or 5 genuine playmates to go to and don't.

They showed a breakdown of that play, if Goff gets it out a fraction earlier & on target, the TE all but walks in.

 

[aussiedude]

I mean the play was the difference between winning and losing so yes - it is very easy to point to that play

it was a trick play that confused everyone even the refs.
They snapped the ball with 20sec left on the play clock, could of taken more time to make sure the refs got the numbers right.

 

[deck]

I mean the play was the difference between winning and losing so yes - it is very easy to point to that play

But that's the lazy view.

 

[aussiedude]

Pretty sure manu is talking about the final 2pt attempt where James Mitchell was targeted and the throw was short of of the EZ

Which was a stupid play anyway. should of kicked the PAT.

It would of been the 4th 2PT play in the playbook. [first play Dallas took a timeout, 2nd was the pass to the LT, 3rd was the INT on the Parsons offside]

 

[aussiedude]

I mean the play was the difference between winning and losing so yes - it is very easy to point to that play

Dallas still had 25sec and a timeout with a kicker who can hit from 60+. Whos to say that final drive was going to be the one where Detroit decide now we will cover the dude with over 200yds rec.

 

[drd23]

 

[STFU Donnie]

...

Happy New Years eve all anyway.

Right back at ya.

 

[aussiedude]

We dont go a week without a lazy or incompetent error by the refs.

It does look like the ref just guessed based on typical formations. This is a crew that all year has guessed on flags throwing them on legal hits and not throwing them on clear PIs.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Dallas still had 25sec and a timeout with a kicker who can hit from 60+. Whos to say that final drive was going to be the one where Detroit decide now we will cover the dude with over 200yds rec.

Dak just as likely to throw a pick in enemy territory

 

[Southerntakeover]

We dont go a week without a lazy or incompetent error by the refs.

It does look like the ref just guessed based on typical formations. This is a crew that all year has guessed on flags throwing them on legal hits and not throwing them on clear PIs.

I mean, this is the problem. They decide far far too many games, and important ones.

I complained enough about the penalty in our superbowl, but frankly I thought the call in the Rams / Bengals game was even worse. This isn't how we want championships decided.

 

[aussiedude]

I mean, this is the problem. They decide far far too many games, and important ones.

I complained enough about the penalty in our superbowl, but frankly I thought the call in the Rams / Bengals game was even worse. This isn't how we want championships decided.

The NFL have shown they dont care. after the Packers/KC game this crew was relegated for a few weeks to "lesser" games and have worked the way back up.

 

[rumply]

 

[rumply]

 

[Burningleviathan]

Reckon 68 reported but the ref saw 70 running towards him and got his number confused.
Considering Dallas were informed 70 was eligible it should have been a replayed down as the wrong player was reported as eligible but I dunno if they can call that due to ref error?