Training 2023 Pre Season

[dudeintheswamp]

I can see the Boss being very good for Jack Higgins career. I reckon Snags'll love him, and I reckon Ross will love Snags.

Injury permitting, I'm expecting a very good season from Jack, AA squad levels.

 

[Plugger35]

I hope Coffield has a big pre season, he could play that swingman goal kicker role off half back that Goddard and Fisher used to play for us under Ross.

He kicked a goal in his first year so he's capable of kicking them, he knows where the big sticks are.

 

[Premium]

Ross will be great for his development IMO, but if you think he's only getting goals out the back you're not watching enough footy.

He's got a lot of strings to his bow.

Higgins has more footy smarts than most , yes he does play off his man , but when the opposition player covers him with speed , he needs too.
He can over power most small defenders and he can take a mark , but he is the first small forward we have had since Milne who just kicks goals.
He was going well until he copped a head knock and it must be realized the kid was a first round draft pick and we got hold of him because of The Tigers riches and after him having a brain bleed , they most probably thought let's offload him while we can.
To me the guy is a natural , but he is only another knock to the head where they will have to look at him seriously if he can keep playing.
If he fit , he is dangerous and at 23 we have not seen the best of him - if is one player who can change a game.

Season Highlights
●		18 disps (13 kicks 5 hballs), 9 marks and 4 goals in Rd 6 17-pt win over GWS at Manuka Oval (22 Apr 2022)
●		16 disps (12 kicks 4 hballs), 7 marks and 5 goals in Rd 5 26-pt win over Gold Coast at Marvel Stadium (16 Apr 2022)
●		16 disps (11 kicks 5 hballs), 5 marks, 4 tackles and 4 goals in Rd 2 10-pt win over Fremantle at Optus Stadium (27 Mar 2022)

 

[George]

I'm hoping that's why the first time under Ross we start to look like letting a 60 point win turn into a 25 point win or go missing for a half that Ross gives them the biggest spray they've had and they learn that giving up that sort of stuff is going to get them on this train:
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Replacement bus to Frankston for mine, send them to the depths of hell

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

He's got a lot of Robert Harvey about him.

Nearly made that point but figured I would get bashed over the head.

Enjoying the training reports in this thread. Many thanks.

 

[Nutsngum]

I hope Coffield has a big pre season, he could play that swingman goal kicker role off half back that Goddard and Fisher used to play for us under Ross.

He kicked a goal in his first year so he's capable of kicking them, he knows where the big sticks are.

That free against Acres was just dumb, he was obviously picking it up as he got tackled and didnt dive on it in any form.

 

[CursingFijian]

You do realise this sim they are talking about, where Allison took two huge contested pack marks and then converted both to goals from tight angles and at some distance was in reality an AI sim that the boffins were running in game plan department on a high end laptop, right ? Pretty sure they use MacBook Pros.

Not only is the SIM not real but we’re not even real. We’re all just an imaginary figment of a quarky AI program called George. He’s like a cyber Pinocchio and hopes that one day the Algorithm Fairy will turn him into a real life Big Footy moderator.

 

[George]

Not only is the SIM not real but we’re not even real. We’re all just an imaginary figment of a quarky AI program called George. He’s like a cyber Pinocchio and hopes that one day the Algorithm Fairy will turn him into a real life Big Footy moderator.

 

[lewdogs]

A "depth" 26 yo player gets a one year deal, and if he does not go ok it is off you go. If he goes ok he gets extended.

Cordy is on a three year deal. So if he does not end up at least handy that is one spot tied up for 3 years.

A 26 yo player who has gotten a three year deal really needs to show why pretty well straight up.

So let's see how he goes then before writing him off. He's already a 100 game premiership player I doubt he's a hack. I remember when we signed Dawson everyone hated it, ended up a good player for us.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Wow - great day - I wake to the news that Matty Allison has not only surpassed my hopes that he might become a $2 shop version of Nick R, but is now apparently on the way to being a gun forward in his right.

Woo hoo - over to you Oscar!!!

 

[Barrels]

Did Coffield get a run , I thought I heard he had an injury.

Put him in because all the noise is he’ll be fit for the preseason stuff…

 

[#gosaintas]

Coff was just running laps

 

[Saints43]

^^that’s assuming he kicks straight of course.

I'm not sure if this is a statistical fact but I always feel that whether Higgins first shot for goal is successful or misses seems to have a massive impact on the remainder of his match.

 

[plugger66]

Not according to reports today

Match simulation is like dancing with your sister. Some good players play on good players and some ordinary players play on ordinary players. I’ve seen nothing in a real game to suggest he is even slightly close. 13 on 13 should never be counted as good or bad form.

 

[plugger66]

Coff was just running laps

He will struggle to start the year based on what has happened to him over the last year.

 

[King_Steele]

Is that Scoops?

 

[NextYearPlease]

Unlike all the cool heads on here , Yeah Nah
Feck , some were making out the world had ended when Max did his shoulder

And look what happened, we haven’t lost a game since!


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[Username Unknown]

I went down to a pre season session down at Sandringham last year around the same time. Huge difference between the standard and skills level. The training session i saw was drills and a full ground match sim. Last year there was no method in the way the ball was moved, the ball did not move with flow and with purpose. Most of the time the player with the ball was either caught, turned it over, gave to the wrong option or kicked to a pack Forward entries were poor, long and direct. I left thinking not much has changed in our game plan but hopeful that it was pre season and it would improve from there.

• Training over all was a really good vibe, players are up and about, training with purpose and intensity, a lot of talk out there from the group. There was joking around but they were trying to get the most out the drills, between drills players they got a drink then straight back to it.
• Players were providing a lot of feedback to each other and no being afraid to challenge other out. In one of the drills a bunch of the senior players were out on the hill side wing. Higgo came out of the forward line on a lead didnt get the ball and Seb Ross said some thing to him. He mentioned Allison not being in the right position, they told him to go and speak to him which he did.
• Listening to that group of senior players (steele, hill, ross, crouch and two others) speak while they were resting. It sounded like they were very clear in what was being asked from them by the coaches.
• RTB is a posing figure out on the track. He had a great mix of challenging players but being able to joke around with them as well. Multiple times he would stop the play and directly call out a player, he would first ask them what they were doing wrong then give them advice. Players received the feedback really well and acted on feedback. You can see there is a lot of respect between the group and Ross. Most conversations would finish with his type of humour and a word of encouragement. At one point 3 coaching/training staff (not harves, banga or BJ) were in the middle of the ground talking during the 13 v 13 drill. He noticed this and made a point to stop the play and ask them what was happening. The quickly ended their conversion and spread out to observe.
• Coaches and more importantly players would stop drills and point out things. When a drill reset there was always conversations happening. Younger players were giving feedback to more senior players.
• Goddard doesn't talk or act like a first year coach. It looks like he has the respect of the senior players as he would give them feedback and they would fully engage in the conversation.
• Between most drills every player would have set shots. Hayes asked why the green hat group had gone for set shots and the other coach replied that they wanted to because they were not fatigued.
• Between every drill windy would have a set shot/s before getting a drink. One time he missed, got super cut at him self and then slotted 3 in a row. He is putting in the work, excited to see what he becomes and also for windy to mentor phillipou. At the same stage of their carer, same work ethic and desire to get better.
• There is a real intent to move the ball quickly. This time round there is method and skills levels are good. They were making the right decision more often than not. Interesting thing i heard was a player called out hill for not giving the ball off. Hill said that while that was on, the next two plays were not and it would have been turned over. They were thinking about the bigger picture and switch up the play to break through the lines. Our game plan looks balanced. Players knew where to go and move into space, when to call for the ball and when not to call for the ball.
• Players really got around some one who did the smalll things spoil, block ect.
• The group practicing center bounce work was Marshall, Steele, Gresh, Ross, Crouch and Clark.
• Hilly looks very up and about
• Sinclair looks like he is ready to go again. Carries himself and plays with a lot of confidence.
• Nas has put on size. He was also doing drills with the backs towards the end.
• Owens was playing up forward. If he didn't take the contested mark, his follow up work was great.
• Pou did some really nice things which reflected his highlights. Still got a bit of work to do. Which will all be down to confidence. Once that clicks he will start marking the ball out in front and taking the game on more.
• Moose did some nice things. Took some strong marks. Was getting beaten by Marshall most of the time but didn't look completely out of his depth.
• Byrnes moved really well and looked good
• Cordy does not look and move like a afl footballer. Way off the pace during conditioning running at the end. I honestly thought he was a sandy fill in until I saw him running back towards me.
• Stoker did some good things, he is a strong player. Eyre looked like a man with not much confidence. Didn't really seem to be pushing him self or doing much. Maybe through feedback it has already been decided who has a spot.
• There was a group of about 100+ kids. There were doing tours of the space and hanging out in the rec area playing games. The clubs is investing in grass routes football (future supporters and $$$)

From what I saw last year, compared to this year. It is going to be a much more exciting/enjoyable team to watch.

 

[gringo2011]

I can see the Boss being very good for Jack Higgins career. I reckon Snags'll love him, and I reckon Ross will love Snags.

Injury permitting, I'm expecting a very good season from Jack, AA squad levels.

He's always loved a small forward who can bring energy and chaos to the opposition defence. Milne, Balentine, Walters etc. Those guys got longer ropes than most because of their energy and unpredictability.

 

[Joffaboy]

Match simulation is like dancing with your sister. Some good players play on good players and some ordinary players play on ordinary players. I’ve seen nothing in a real game to suggest he is even slightly close. 13 on 13 should never be counted as good or bad form.

Yes but this dancing with your sister is in front of the new step dad who is working out who gets first crack at the keys to the car.

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[BrutThough]

The lack of players fully participating in the match sim is concerning.

 

[Username Unknown]

The lack of players fully participating in the match sim is concerning.

The green hat group were moving well in their drill and during conditioning at the end. Battle was near the front of pack during the excise that was running around the boundary. They were the group that I mentioned above that went of for set shots because they were not fatigued. From memory Gresh and Steele participated in the match sim

 

[Sun Ra]

I went down to a pre season session down at Sandringham last year around the same time. Huge difference between the standard and skills level. The training session i saw was drills and a full ground match sim. Last year there was no method in the way the ball was moved, the ball did not move with flow and with purpose. Most of the time the player with the ball was either caught, turned it over, gave to the wrong option or kicked to a pack Forward entries were poor, long and direct. I left thinking not much has changed in our game plan but hopeful that it was pre season and it would improve from there.

• Training over all was a really good vibe, players are up and about, training with purpose and intensity, a lot of talk out there from the group. There was joking around but they were trying to get the most out the drills, between drills players they got a drink then straight back to it.
• Players were providing a lot of feedback to each other and no being afraid to challenge other out. In one of the drills a bunch of the senior players were out on the hill side wing. Higgo came out of the forward line on a lead didnt get the ball and Seb Ross said some thing to him. He mentioned Allison not being in the right position, they told him to go and speak to him which he did.
• Listening to that group of senior players (steele, hill, ross, crouch and two others) speak while they were resting. It sounded like they were very clear in what was being asked from them by the coaches.
• RTB is a posing figure out on the track. He had a great mix of challenging players but being able to joke around with them as well. Multiple times he would stop the play and directly call out a player, he would first ask them what they were doing wrong then give them advice. Players received the feedback really well and acted on feedback. You can see there is a lot of respect between the group and Ross. Most conversations would finish with his type of humour and a word of encouragement. At one point 3 coaching/training staff (not harves, banga or BJ) were in the middle of the ground talking during the 13 v 13 drill. He noticed this and made a point to stop the play and ask them what was happening. The quickly ended their conversion and spread out to observe.
• Coaches and more importantly players would stop drills and point out things. When a drill reset there was always conversations happening. Younger players were giving feedback to more senior players.
• Goddard doesn't talk or act like a first year coach. It looks like he has the respect of the senior players as he would give them feedback and they would fully engage in the conversation.
• Between most drills every player would have set shots. Hayes asked why the green hat group had gone for set shots and the other coach replied that they wanted to because they were not fatigued.
• Between every drill windy would have a set shot/s before getting a drink. One time he missed, got super cut at him self and then slotted 3 in a row. He is putting in the work, excited to see what he becomes and also for windy to mentor phillipou. At the same stage of their carer, same work ethic and desire to get better.
• There is a real intent to move the ball quickly. This time round there is method and skills levels are good. They were making the right decision more often than not. Interesting thing i heard was a player called out hill for not giving the ball off. Hill said that while that was on, the next two plays were not and it would have been turned over. They were thinking about the bigger picture and switch up the play to break through the lines. Our game plan looks balanced. Players knew where to go and move into space, when to call for the ball and when not to call for the ball.
• Players really got around some one who did the smalll things spoil, block ect.
• The group practicing center bounce work was Marshall, Steele, Gresh, Ross, Crouch and Clark.
• Hilly looks very up and about
• Sinclair looks like he is ready to go again. Carries himself and plays with a lot of confidence.
• Nas has put on size. He was also doing drills with the backs towards the end.
• Owens was playing up forward. If he didn't take the contested mark, his follow up work was great.
• Pou did some really nice things which reflected his highlights. Still got a bit of work to do. Which will all be down to confidence. Once that clicks he will start marking the ball out in front and taking the game on more.
• Moose did some nice things. Took some strong marks. Was getting beaten by Marshall most of the time but didn't look completely out of his depth.
• Byrnes moved really well and looked good
• Cordy does not look and move like a afl footballer. Way off the pace during conditioning running at the end. I honestly thought he was a sandy fill in until I saw him running back towards me.
• Stoker did some good things, he is a strong player. Eyre looked like a man with not much confidence. Didn't really seem to be pushing him self or doing much. Maybe through feedback it has already been decided who has a spot.
• There was a group of about 100+ kids. There were doing tours of the space and hanging out in the rec area playing games. The clubs is investing in grass routes football (future supporters and $$$)

From what I saw last year, compared to this year. It is going to be a much more exciting/enjoyable team to watch.

Fantastic report mate - great level of detail. Well done ! Wonderful BF ID btw.

 

[sammm]

I went down to a pre season session down at Sandringham last year around the same time. Huge difference between the standard and skills level. The training session i saw was drills and a full ground match sim. Last year there was no method in the way the ball was moved, the ball did not move with flow and with purpose. Most of the time the player with the ball was either caught, turned it over, gave to the wrong option or kicked to a pack Forward entries were poor, long and direct. I left thinking not much has changed in our game plan but hopeful that it was pre season and it would improve from there.

• Training over all was a really good vibe, players are up and about, training with purpose and intensity, a lot of talk out there from the group. There was joking around but they were trying to get the most out the drills, between drills players they got a drink then straight back to it.
• Players were providing a lot of feedback to each other and no being afraid to challenge other out. In one of the drills a bunch of the senior players were out on the hill side wing. Higgo came out of the forward line on a lead didnt get the ball and Seb Ross said some thing to him. He mentioned Allison not being in the right position, they told him to go and speak to him which he did.
• Listening to that group of senior players (steele, hill, ross, crouch and two others) speak while they were resting. It sounded like they were very clear in what was being asked from them by the coaches.
• RTB is a posing figure out on the track. He had a great mix of challenging players but being able to joke around with them as well. Multiple times he would stop the play and directly call out a player, he would first ask them what they were doing wrong then give them advice. Players received the feedback really well and acted on feedback. You can see there is a lot of respect between the group and Ross. Most conversations would finish with his type of humour and a word of encouragement. At one point 3 coaching/training staff (not harves, banga or BJ) were in the middle of the ground talking during the 13 v 13 drill. He noticed this and made a point to stop the play and ask them what was happening. The quickly ended their conversion and spread out to observe.
• Coaches and more importantly players would stop drills and point out things. When a drill reset there was always conversations happening. Younger players were giving feedback to more senior players.
• Goddard doesn't talk or act like a first year coach. It looks like he has the respect of the senior players as he would give them feedback and they would fully engage in the conversation.
• Between most drills every player would have set shots. Hayes asked why the green hat group had gone for set shots and the other coach replied that they wanted to because they were not fatigued.
• Between every drill windy would have a set shot/s before getting a drink. One time he missed, got super cut at him self and then slotted 3 in a row. He is putting in the work, excited to see what he becomes and also for windy to mentor phillipou. At the same stage of their carer, same work ethic and desire to get better.
• There is a real intent to move the ball quickly. This time round there is method and skills levels are good. They were making the right decision more often than not. Interesting thing i heard was a player called out hill for not giving the ball off. Hill said that while that was on, the next two plays were not and it would have been turned over. They were thinking about the bigger picture and switch up the play to break through the lines. Our game plan looks balanced. Players knew where to go and move into space, when to call for the ball and when not to call for the ball.
• Players really got around some one who did the smalll things spoil, block ect.
• The group practicing center bounce work was Marshall, Steele, Gresh, Ross, Crouch and Clark.
• Hilly looks very up and about
• Sinclair looks like he is ready to go again. Carries himself and plays with a lot of confidence.
• Nas has put on size. He was also doing drills with the backs towards the end.
• Owens was playing up forward. If he didn't take the contested mark, his follow up work was great.
• Pou did some really nice things which reflected his highlights. Still got a bit of work to do. Which will all be down to confidence. Once that clicks he will start marking the ball out in front and taking the game on more.
• Moose did some nice things. Took some strong marks. Was getting beaten by Marshall most of the time but didn't look completely out of his depth.
• Byrnes moved really well and looked good
• Cordy does not look and move like a afl footballer. Way off the pace during conditioning running at the end. I honestly thought he was a sandy fill in until I saw him running back towards me.
• Stoker did some good things, he is a strong player. Eyre looked like a man with not much confidence. Didn't really seem to be pushing him self or doing much. Maybe through feedback it has already been decided who has a spot.
• There was a group of about 100+ kids. There were doing tours of the space and hanging out in the rec area playing games. The clubs is investing in grass routes football (future supporters and $$$)

From what I saw last year, compared to this year. It is going to be a much more exciting/enjoyable team to watch.

Thanks very much. It nice that people can see differences between this year and last and explains them.

 

[saintmike65]

I went down to a pre season session down at Sandringham last year around the same time. Huge difference between the standard and skills level. The training session i saw was drills and a full ground match sim. Last year there was no method in the way the ball was moved, the ball did not move with flow and with purpose. Most of the time the player with the ball was either caught, turned it over, gave to the wrong option or kicked to a pack Forward entries were poor, long and direct. I left thinking not much has changed in our game plan but hopeful that it was pre season and it would improve from there.

• Training over all was a really good vibe, players are up and about, training with purpose and intensity, a lot of talk out there from the group. There was joking around but they were trying to get the most out the drills, between drills players they got a drink then straight back to it.
• Players were providing a lot of feedback to each other and no being afraid to challenge other out. In one of the drills a bunch of the senior players were out on the hill side wing. Higgo came out of the forward line on a lead didnt get the ball and Seb Ross said some thing to him. He mentioned Allison not being in the right position, they told him to go and speak to him which he did.
• Listening to that group of senior players (steele, hill, ross, crouch and two others) speak while they were resting. It sounded like they were very clear in what was being asked from them by the coaches.
• RTB is a posing figure out on the track. He had a great mix of challenging players but being able to joke around with them as well. Multiple times he would stop the play and directly call out a player, he would first ask them what they were doing wrong then give them advice. Players received the feedback really well and acted on feedback. You can see there is a lot of respect between the group and Ross. Most conversations would finish with his type of humour and a word of encouragement. At one point 3 coaching/training staff (not harves, banga or BJ) were in the middle of the ground talking during the 13 v 13 drill. He noticed this and made a point to stop the play and ask them what was happening. The quickly ended their conversion and spread out to observe.
• Coaches and more importantly players would stop drills and point out things. When a drill reset there was always conversations happening. Younger players were giving feedback to more senior players.
• Goddard doesn't talk or act like a first year coach. It looks like he has the respect of the senior players as he would give them feedback and they would fully engage in the conversation.
• Between most drills every player would have set shots. Hayes asked why the green hat group had gone for set shots and the other coach replied that they wanted to because they were not fatigued.
• Between every drill windy would have a set shot/s before getting a drink. One time he missed, got super cut at him self and then slotted 3 in a row. He is putting in the work, excited to see what he becomes and also for windy to mentor phillipou. At the same stage of their carer, same work ethic and desire to get better.
• There is a real intent to move the ball quickly. This time round there is method and skills levels are good. They were making the right decision more often than not. Interesting thing i heard was a player called out hill for not giving the ball off. Hill said that while that was on, the next two plays were not and it would have been turned over. They were thinking about the bigger picture and switch up the play to break through the lines. Our game plan looks balanced. Players knew where to go and move into space, when to call for the ball and when not to call for the ball.
• Players really got around some one who did the smalll things spoil, block ect.
• The group practicing center bounce work was Marshall, Steele, Gresh, Ross, Crouch and Clark.
• Hilly looks very up and about
• Sinclair looks like he is ready to go again. Carries himself and plays with a lot of confidence.
• Nas has put on size. He was also doing drills with the backs towards the end.
• Owens was playing up forward. If he didn't take the contested mark, his follow up work was great.
• Pou did some really nice things which reflected his highlights. Still got a bit of work to do. Which will all be down to confidence. Once that clicks he will start marking the ball out in front and taking the game on more.
• Moose did some nice things. Took some strong marks. Was getting beaten by Marshall most of the time but didn't look completely out of his depth.
• Byrnes moved really well and looked good
• Cordy does not look and move like a afl footballer. Way off the pace during conditioning running at the end. I honestly thought he was a sandy fill in until I saw him running back towards me.
• Stoker did some good things, he is a strong player. Eyre looked like a man with not much confidence. Didn't really seem to be pushing him self or doing much. Maybe through feedback it has already been decided who has a spot.
• There was a group of about 100+ kids. There were doing tours of the space and hanging out in the rec area playing games. The clubs is investing in grass routes football (future supporters and $$$)

From what I saw last year, compared to this year. It is going to be a much more exciting/enjoyable team to watch.

Outstanding report…I really enjoyed reading that.