Autopsy 2023 Round 02 Swans beat the Hawks

[robbieando]

Robbie are you optimistic on our 2023 start to the season? i know both teams not top 8 standard teams but still our dominance is impressive.

I’m optimistic based off the two games and the fact we have made minor changes to our game plan that should help us keep up with the Top 4.

What has impressed be the most has been our ability to defend as a team and keep the score low while building percentage in games we traditionally would fail to do so in.

We have a big 6 weeks ahead of us which will tell us where we are really at. If we go 4-2 or 5-1 then I think we’ll be up to our eyeballs in this but drop anymore and it’s a sign that we might be dropping back.

 

[Nuggetz]

I thought he was top 10 easy. I nearly had him in my votes.

He's a medium forward. Of course he's going to go missing. I don't get why when Hayward has a good medium forward game, everyone's really happy he's doing his job, but then Heeney has a good medium forward game (13 & 2 is undeniably a good medium forward game), and it's "he's not doing enough".

As SBD Gonzalez so astutely noted above, we have high expectations of Heeney because he's such a special talent, but at the end of the day his role as a medium forward is what it is, and sometimes there are days where there's simply only so much you can do with it.

So its bad cap management if you're paying hayward considerably less than heeney but expecting same performances. Sorry but we won by 80+ points and he could barely crack the top 10 players for us in that game imo. Heeney has more talent & ability than Hayward, he gets more opportunities to play further up the ground, when Heeney is involved he's far more dangerous than Hayward. We should be expecting more from Heeney.

By halftime on the weekend he had 4 disposals, 1 tackle & 1 mark. Horse & Heeney have said he's got the freedom to move around to be more involved, I would love to see him utilise it.

I love Heeney's highlight plays but want to get him more touches, he's kicked 3 goals over 2 games & avg 12.5dsps. It's fair enough to say he needs to lift, I'm happy to be in the minority on Heeney's performance.

 

[caesar88]

Heeney has high expectations because he is being paid 900k+ at that level you need to consistently impact games otherwise why are we paying him huge dollars?

Hayward can play the forward role just as well on half the salary.

Heeney's worst is Hayward's best. That is not a knock on Hayward, but a testament to just how good Heeney is. And the reason they are likely* paid very differently.

*likely being the key word there, because we don't know what our players are being paid, so figures shouldn't just be bandied about casually.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I was a good day all-round for Ollie.

 

[Donza]

I’m optimistic based off the two games and the fact we have made minor changes to our game plan that should help us keep up with the Top 4.

What has impressed be the most has been our ability to defend as a team and keep the score low while building percentage in games we traditionally would fail to do so in.

We have a big 6 weeks ahead of us which will tell us where we are really at. If we go 4-2 or 5-1 then I think we’ll be up to our eyeballs in this but drop anymore and it’s a sign that we might be dropping back.

I don't even know what the top four is anymore?

 

[the hypnotoad]

I think TaHeeney’s problem is he looks like a showpony, and that blinds people to his phenomenal work rate.

He busts his gut out there but then goes and “ruins” it all by topping it off with something spectacular in the F50.

Then if he converts, everyone’s like “bloody Heeney, why can’t we see four quarters of this?” (um, because he’s busy busting his gut most of the time), and if he misses the lot and goes OOTF it’s just “bloody Heeney!”.

i've crapped on about this for a few years ... not just his gut running but his tackling, he's as hard a tackler, physically, as just about anyone in the competition, i'm sure it's a rugby league element ...
and he has great vision ... the long kick to mcdonald for a goal was wonderful, and not a one-off
and as for running, geez, mcdonald covers some territory ... he took off towards goal as soon as that play started to develop on the far wing, he knew what was happening and knew where to get to ...

 

[Kiama Chris]

i've crapped on about this for a few years ... not just his gut running but his tackling, he's as hard a tackler, physically, as just about anyone in the competition, i'm sure it's a rugby league element ...
and he has great vision ... the long kick to mcdonald for a goal was wonderful, and not a one-off
and as for running, geez, mcdonald covers some territory ... he took off towards goal as soon as that play started to develop on the far wing, he knew what was happening and knew where to get to ...

100% this. McDonald knows when to go. Hayward, Papley, Heeney all do this too. Even McLean. Great gut running ready to take the opportunity.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Heeney has high expectations because he is being paid 900k+ at that level you need to consistently impact games otherwise why are we paying him huge dollars?

Hayward can play the forward role just as well on half the salary.

heeney and hayward are different players, with different roles ...
both can be spectacular in the air but hayward can't do what heeney does around the ground ...
i still don't understand the constant sniping at heeney
i'm glad he gets paid whatever it is ... and even more glad it's sydney paying him
i've posted several times ... would you really want to see heeney playing against sydney!?
it's a grass is always greener scenario, and there's a few posters on this board guilty of it every week ... talking up some player from another club, be it petracca or degoey or oliver, serong, dunkley, blah blah blah ...
i'll take heeney

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Heens set up more than a few goals yesterday with unselfish play. Get's overlooked how often he does that.

Thought he was good without being great. Didn't have to be as the others were contributing. Positive has been his goal kicking is a mile better this year (Paps needed to take the lessons too). A game where you belt a side by 80 and the last quarter we were dawdling around waiting for next week is a weird one to look at players.

 

[Kapers]

I don't care how good Heeney is vs bad teams. I just want to see him turn up in the trenches. Had a garbage finals campaign, and if he can show up in the big games I don't care if he takes a week off when we don't need him to win.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't care how good Heeney is vs bad teams. I just want to see him turn up in the trenches. Had a garbage finals campaign, and if he can show up in the big games I don't care if he takes a week off when we don't need him to win.

So much this now he wasn't the only one, but he might want to sort performing in big games.

 

[SM]

Didn't Heeney have an ankle injury in finals?

 

[Bloods86]

So much this now he wasn't the only one, but he might want to sort performing in big games.

Like the GWS elimination final in 2021, 4 goals, big part of getting us back into the game. Had some decent hauls last year against good sides.

 

[Olian]

We actually beat them by +15 CP and +7 UP and only had 1 less tackle

We lost the clearances, centre clearances and drew level on stoppage clearances. They were getting their hands on the ball first. What helped is our pressure and forced the turnover.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Like the GWS elimination final in 2021, 4 goals, big part of getting us back into the game. Had some decent hauls last year against good sides.

For a VERY good player those performances have been few and between, and yes he wasn't the only one but his GF performance was pathetic. Time for him to really take a season apart, enough with the potential and flashes.

 

[Millky95]

We lost the clearances, centre clearances and drew level on stoppage clearances. They were getting their hands on the ball first. What helped is our pressure and forced the turnover.

The quotes were about contested possession not clearances though

And because we love to reference it: we won total clearances, stoppage clearances and centre bounce clearances in the GF. We were getting our hands on the ball first then. Didn't really matter

 

[Bloods86]

For a VERY good player those performances have been few and between, and yes he wasn't the only one but his GF performance was pathetic. Time for him to really take a season apart, enough with the potential and flashes.

Comfortably in the same group as Fritsch, Cameron, Stengle as the premier small/medium forwards of the comp.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Comfortably in the same group as Fritsch, Cameron, Stengle as the premier small/medium forwards of the comp.

Cameron is a bit ahead with Greene the best one by the length of the straight. He’s in that next group.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Cameron is a bit ahead with Greene the best one by the length of the straight. He’s in that next group.

cameron is not the same type as heeney
green is a ripper but i'd still have heeney

 

[Bloods86]

Cameron is a bit ahead with Greene the best one by the length of the straight. He’s in that next group.

True, Greene did miss a fair bit last year. I don't think there's much difference between the group I named, at least in terms of output there isn't.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

True, Greene did miss a fair bit last year. I don't think there's much difference between the group I named, at least in terms of output there isn't.

Toby is quite a margin ahead jeez would love him in our side yes he’s a tool but boy jeez he can play footy.

 

[Bloods86]

Toby is quite a margin ahead jeez would love him in our side yes he’s a tool but boy jeez he can play footy.

If he plays a full season, he's the best medium forward yeah. If.

Heeney is only slightly behind the likes of Fritsch, Cameron, in terms of kicking goals (due to a slight dip in accuracy last year) and handily beats them in other areas.

 

[the hypnotoad]

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I was a good day all-round for Ollie.

can we get her to change her name to Sydney Swanney?
i'm sure she'd be happy to ... she seems happy enough in the changeroom ...
you think young oliver got in trouble at any point asking for "more"?

 

[Donza]

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I was a good day all-round for Ollie.

Just one of her 14.6 million followers on insta...

Just a casual million likes.

 

[Millky95]

Just one of her 14.6 million followers on insta...

Just a casual million likes.

Might be just the screen I am using but I thought her top was a censor for a minute there and was like "wow that's bold"