Trades 2023 Round 3 Fantasy Trades

[Phar Ace]

What do we think crazy Bevo does with Dunks this week, anychance he gives him some extra attention or does Dunks go nuts to prove a point?

Simply anything is possible - Bevo is devo!

 

[Quazza]

your cash gen is going to struggle... think you will just need to prioritise rookies.... lucky for u

Agreed - def got a little lucky in starting with guys like Daicos, Day etc

Will focus on bench cash gen as others have stated

 

[Phar Ace]

Cumming and Sheed to Day and Setterfield or Stocker and LDU?

Day and Setters

 

[Phar Ace]

Is it too late to get Chandler in my team? (couldn't due to Rd 1 injuries grr)

Chandler has a BE of -21. It is never too late to bring in a recruit with -21 (except if he's not in the side). Generating Cash is king still

 

[Mezzoculo]

Thinking this week:
Wilmot as D7 to see how he scores on Thursday night.
If sub 70 then Anderson to Naicos via Chesser to mid (brings Hollands onfield at M8)
If above 70, then Anderson to Gulden or Ziebell (also assumes chesser is out so I can loop Wilmot's score). Ollie Hollands stays as mid Emergency.
If I prioritise Ziebell over Gulden then I can dump the extra cash on Ladhams to bring in English with my second trade. Otherwise that trade will be reserved for a rookie swap.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

A lot of people jumping off MacRae early. Its only been 2 games. Has the history of being a top 10 mid. Cash is king at this point of the game, IMO every single player in your team should fall under these 2 categories: Earning you cash OR are a top 10 player in their position and are a Set and Forget. I will wait another few weeks to judge MaCrae as I feel a lot of people may be looking to trade him back in come the byes.

Obviously the ultimate players are ones who earn you a load of cash AND end up a top 10 player in their position such as Daicos, Ryan, potentially Day, LDU, Taranto, Green, potentially Gulden and Rowell, Sheezel although he may drop off, Zorko, Ziebell. If you started with all of those, you could win this comp.

 

[Petracca]

Def: Docherty, Daicos, Day, Constable, Ginbey, Wilmot (Cowan, Bergman)

Mid: Macrae, Bont, LDU, Serong, Sheed, Worpel, Ashcroft, McKenzie (Chesser, Davey)

Rucks: Marshall, Darcy (Heath)

Forwards: Dunkley, Taranto, Rozee, Gulden, Sheezel, Chandler (Greene, Pedlar)

Util: Phillipou

Bank: 121k

Overall, pretty happy. Concerns are obviously Macrae & Sheed, whilst I'm also worried about not having Hollands as I think he will be a great cash cow.

Current thoughts are:
1. Sheed to Setterfield (is a straight swap via the cash in the bank so a no-brainer really).
2. Macrae to Ziebell + 276k (hate having this much cash itb but Ziebell feels like too much value / cash gen to ignore).
*Unfortunately 1k off Pou to Hollands as my 2nd trade which would have been my preference

Any other thoughts? Or just complete the 1st trade and keep the 2nd open for whatever may occur at teams.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

Thinking this week:
Wilmot as D7 to see how he scores on Thursday night.
If sub 70 then Anderson to Naicos via Chesser to mid (brings Hollands onfield at M8)
If above 70, then Anderson to Gulden or Ziebell (also assumes chesser is out so I can loop Wilmot's score). Oliver stays as mid Emergency.
If I prioritise Ziebell over Gulden then I can dump the extra cash on Ladhams to bring in English with my second trade. Otherwise that trade will be reserved for a rookie swap.

I would have a possible 3rd option. Keep Anderson. He had 25 touches last week, just 1 under his average from 2022. BUT, he had 2.5 tackles less than his average (8-12 points) and missed 2 shots on goal, potentially another 10 points. Could end up 110+ this week, never know

 

[SM]

A lot of people jumping off MacRae early. Its only been 2 games. Has the history of being a top 10 mid. Cash is king at this point of the game, IMO every single player in your team should fall under these 2 categories: Earning you cash OR are a top 10 player in their position and are a Set and Forget. I will wait another few weeks to judge MaCrae as I feel a lot of people may be looking to trade him back in come the byes.

Obviously the ultimate players are ones who earn you a load of cash AND end up a top 10 player in their position such as Daicos, Ryan, potentially Day, LDU, Taranto, Green, potentially Gulden and Rowell, Sheezel although he may drop off, Zorko, Ziebell. If you started with all of those, you could win this comp.

Cash is king, you're right, but if you can free up cash from Macrae to an LDU or Setterfield who is scoring more points AND earning you cash, is that not worthwhile? I don't have Macrae but I'm in a reasonably similar situation with Bont. If a forward rookie comes in I can swap Phillipou to that gives me an alternative, but otherwise I need to keep points and dollars ticking over.

 

[Mezzoculo]

I would have a possible 3rd option. Keep Anderson. He had 25 touches last week, just 1 under his average from 2022. BUT, he had 2.5 tackles less than his average (8-12 points) and missed 2 shots on goal, potentially another 10 points. Could end up 110+ this week, never know

Having watched him pretty closely the past few weeks, I don't think he has the role to hit 110 consistently. While he's starting at centre bounces, which is great, he then spreads HARD from the contest so isn't around the ball to lay tackles, or receive some cheaper possessions. That seems to be Rowell and Touk's role.

So if he isn't scoring as I hoped and has such low ownership, he has to go. Well, right up until thw inevitable carnage hits at 6.25pm Thursday....

 

[tigs2010]

Oliver stays as mid Emergency.

Good lord this made me do a double take. Thought I was 282 weeks behind you in upgrades

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Cash is king, you're right, but if you can free up cash from Macrae to an LDU or Setterfield who is scoring more points AND earning you cash, is that not worthwhile? I don't have Macrae but I'm in a reasonably similar situation with Bont. If a forward rookie comes in I can swap Phillipou to that gives me an alternative, but otherwise I need to keep points and dollars ticking over.

Correct ....more ways than just Rookies to make the $cash

Besides, I'm just getting injury after injury currently ....Kelly (R1), Steele (R2) ....but they've opened up trade opportunities.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

A lot of people jumping off MacRae early. Its only been 2 games. Has the history of being a top 10 mid. Cash is king at this point of the game, IMO every single player in your team should fall under these 2 categories: Earning you cash OR are a top 10 player in their position and are a Set and Forget. I will wait another few weeks to judge MaCrae as I feel a lot of people may be looking to trade him back in come the byes.

Obviously the ultimate players are ones who earn you a load of cash AND end up a top 10 player in their position such as Daicos, Ryan, potentially Day, LDU, Taranto, Green, potentially Gulden and Rowell, Sheezel although he may drop off, Zorko, Ziebell. If you started with all of those, you could win this comp.

Macrae has a good history up against the Lions so I'm backing him in this week too. If he doesn't get it done then I'll be seriously wavering. I need that doggie to be firing on all cylinders and going big right now, clogging up my list is not his responsibility.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Are there any decent rookie downgrades on the horizon.

When am I going to be able to downgrade any of these bench guys.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Macrae has a good history up against the Lions so I'm backing him in this week too. If he doesn't get it done then I'll be seriously wavering. I need that doggie to be firing on all cylinders and going big right now, clogging up my list is not his responsibility.

As long as Macrea's CBA's are sitting below 50% .....he's banished from my side

 

[happyCrowie]

Whoever scores more this week determines who goes first out of Sheed and JHF

• JHF vs Crows with BE of 74 ( has given a 90 and a 42 )
• Sheed vs Freo with BE of 67 ( has given a 79 and a 72 )

I would be ecstatic with a 90, actually content with anything above 70. However anything under 60 fuming...

Have I answered my own question and JHF goes first ? Opinions on who goes first would be great

 

[Barnzy]

I think I'm going to wind back the clock with a certain trade in. With my poor start (17k rank) I need another POD move to hit. I saw first hand how poor Ladhams is after swapping to him after the Xerri injury.

Grundy has him this week. I predict he gets 4-5 free kicks and 40-50 hitouts. Week after West Coast then Essendon, Richmond, North. Nice run.



I could go straight to English but extra money (256k) banked allows me to plan for one of Macrae/Bont and Cumming out next week for Laird/Brayshaw and Dawson/Sicily.

 

[Gold_Cat]

Has anyone seen both Saints games and have insight into Stocker? Does he have a good role or is he playing lockdown and been lucky with chipping the ball around?

 

[Milo Cyrus]

As long as Macrea's CBA's are sitting below 50% .....he's banished from my side

Fair enough too, getting Bevo whacked.

 

[SM]

I think I'm going to wind back the clock with a certain trade in. With my poor start (17k rank) I need another POD move to hit. I saw first hand how poor Ladhams is after swapping to him after the Xerri injury.

Grundy has him this week. I predict he gets 4-5 free kicks and 40-50 hitouts. Week after West Coast then Essendon, Richmond, North. Nice run.

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I could go straight to English but extra money (256k) banked allows me to plan for one of Macrae/Bont and Cumming out next week for Laird/Brayshaw and Dawson/Sicily.

Is 17k a poor start? I wouldn't be making wild reactionary trades to 'make up ground' after only two weeks, which could potentially leave you even further behind.

That being said I don't think Grundy is the worst move, just make sure it's for the right reasons.

 

[Barnzy]

Is 17k a poor start? I wouldn't be making wild reactionary trades to 'make up ground' after only two weeks, which could potentially leave you even further behind.

That being said I don't think Grundy is the worst move, just make sure it's for the right reasons.

I don't think it's reactionary.

I think he has the potential to be the best scoring ruck over the next 5-6 weeks. Or close to.

It's riskier than English Or Witts. But that's about it.

 

[SM]

I don't think it's reactionary.

I think he has the potential to be the best scoring ruck over the next 5-6 weeks. Or close to.

It's riskier than English Or Witts. But that's about it.

Sure, just questioning your reasoning being because you've had a 'poor' start and need a POD.

For example I'm just above you at 15k but am focussing on getting Naicos in because his scores are damaging my rank just as much as a POD's scoring would help it.

 

[Lukebatty97]

No idea why I have Baz and Bont when bevo is the coach
Baz has the role, they just suck. Baz less cbas and tog. Worth sideways trading this week? Or hold?

 

[Skippos]

A lot of people jumping off MacRae early. Its only been 2 games. Has the history of being a top 10 mid. Cash is king at this point of the game, IMO every single player in your team should fall under these 2 categories: Earning you cash OR are a top 10 player in their position and are a Set and Forget. I will wait another few weeks to judge MaCrae as I feel a lot of people may be looking to trade him back in come the byes.

Obviously the ultimate players are ones who earn you a load of cash AND end up a top 10 player in their position such as Daicos, Ryan, potentially Day, LDU, Taranto, Green, potentially Gulden and Rowell, Sheezel although he may drop off, Zorko, Ziebell. If you started with all of those, you could win this comp.

I've long been Macrae's biggest fan, and I reckon he's almost been my first picked every year for about 8 years. Perfect fantasy game, wins inside and out, spreads well, tackles enough, always in the right spots, reliable rotations.

But I nearly punted him last week. The end comes for all players, and for some it's earlier than others. Macrae's 28, he's played 200 games, he's pretty much played every game since he came into the system. So he's been through a lot. And he's not particularly athletic. If he loses more athleticism, which it seems he is, it turns a weakness into a liability and he looks proper short of a gallop.

I reckon that's simply it. There's now a trendline. And he lost CBAs this season despite Dunkley going & this week, no Treloar.

Of course, if there are pressing problems elsewhere, fix them first.

But it's a market game where cash gen is key, and lots of rookies are unreliable this year. If Macrae's a 95-100 guy and so is Setterfield, and you make that trade, you're getting the same scoring and over the turn, 170k in cash gen. And to get these mid pricers who are popping, you've got to find the cash to get there somehow. There's a solid argument Macrae to Setterfield could be better for cash than swapping rookies.

I can't see a reality where Macrae is a top 10 mid this year anymore. And if he is, I'll be happy to trade him back in of course. But what's going to change? There's no reason for his drop off (injury etc.). There's no apparent reason the coach is minimising his role. He's probably just not that good anymore.

If people think the Setterfield/Worpel types are necessary, then I'd definitely tick the move off if there's no other way to get there.

Then for people like me - who enter this round already owning all of the big trade targets (Day, LDU, Worpel, Setterfield, Daicos, Sheezel) bar Ziebell, I've got to use my trades somewhere. Much better what looks to be a falling premium than waste it on a shit rookie for a shit rookie, or a McGrath type IMO.

 

[Barrybran]

Having watched him pretty closely the past few weeks, I don't think he has the role to hit 110 consistently. While he's starting at centre bounces, which is great, he then spreads HARD from the contest so isn't around the ball to lay tackles, or receive some cheaper possessions. That seems to be Rowell and Touk's role.

So if he isn't scoring as I hoped and has such low ownership, he has to go. Well, right up until thw inevitable carnage hits at 6.25pm Thursday....

Does that bring Rowell into play?