Trades 2023 Round 3 Fantasy Trades

[tigs2010]

Who you trading out?

Big fan of Macrae > actual premo and failed mid pricer > Ziebell/Setter/Day this week

First 2 would be Diddly (squat) Flanders and Tom Powell
Last one would be Crae and Powell

Crae can become Naicos to be actual premo rather than Setters but I can get Crae from Ridley the potato next week where as Setters and Ziebell will get away from me I think

 

[Coasters7]

I'm trying to avoid the whole 'keeper' logic this year and be really aggresive with trades - which is why i'm trading Macrae this week.

We have more trades than we've ever had before, with an extra round and an extra free by trade. I think it's time to be super aggressive. In the last 11 rounds of the year you can replace your entire on field side, so I think we still have room to move.

Particularly at this point in time when no rookies are fat, we can be very aggressive. Until Round 5, i'm going to treat all my premiums like stocks and get on the hot moving ones. Setters and Gulden in this week, Macrae out. I've got a stop-loss set on Dunkley and if he hits less than 880k i'm cutting lossess, taking the CGT write offs and trading him up.

Yeah I like it. More opportunity to play the BE game. Setterfield looks like a must based on this. Trade your worst performing (or injured) premo mid to him and you’ll bank ~200k plus nearly be able to straight swap them again in 3 weeks time

 

[kozi]

First 2 would be Diddly (squat) Flanders and Tom Powell
Last one would be Crae and Powell

Crae can become Naicos to be actual premo rather than Setters but I can get Crae from Ridley the potato next week where as Setters and Ziebell will get away from me I think

Tough to pick a clear cut winner of the 3

Get Zevon to pick one and cross it off? Then it's down to a 50/50 at least

 

[tigs2010]

Tough to pick a clear cut winner of the 3

Get Zevon to pick one and cross it off? Then it's down to a 50/50 at least

Have PM'd him.

 

[mrpig]

First 2 would be Diddly (squat) Flanders and Tom Powell
Last one would be Crae and Powell

Crae can become Naicos to be actual premo rather than Setters but I can get Crae from Ridley the potato next week where as Setters and Ziebell will get away from me I think

i'd hold onto powell one more week, with an LDU tag and simpkin out, you'd have to guess that if any week he'd have a good one itd be this week against the hawks

Dont mind doing flanders and Macrae to something like stocker and laird/brayshaw/oliver if you have the cash for it

 

[tigs2010]

i'd hold onto powell one more week, with an LDU tag and simpkin out, you'd have to guess that if any week he'd have a good one itd be this week against the hawks

Dont mind doing flanders and Macrae to something like stocker and laird/brayshaw/oliver if you have the cash for it

I have Laird already. Do you reckon I need a second big gun as opposed to generating some cash?

 

[mrpig]

I have Laird already. Do you reckon I need a second big gun as opposed to generating some cash?

depends on your team structure i guess, but i dont think it can ever backfire if you just trade macrae to oliver or brayshaw.... (injuries permitting).

If your team is full of the standard rookies, i think you are generating enough cash, and there will be other rookies to come mid season. I get everyone is on the midprice hype train, because that is the stratergy that has worked for 2 weeks, but you only want to expose yourself to so much risk imo. I think stocker is a risky pick that can generate cash, and is enough risk to take on, without exposing yourself to more.

That being said, i wouldnt hate a powell and flanders trade to something like stocker + ziebell either... because you are basically trading two spuds for two cash gen hot picks....and then just pray bevo plays maccae properly

 

[samFFC]

My team is pretty mid pricer at the moment, so I'm probably more mindful of it given I'll need to jump off half a dozen in the next 3-6 weeks.

Below is ball park of what I think he will go over the next 5 weeks (avg 97.8). Only results in $110k price rise. I think you can chase more cash elsewhere.

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His run in the next 7 weeks doesn't exactly scre

Surely you can upgrade to Setters, don't downgrade on that alone! You may have other strategy at play, but on that - NO!

Only a dog situation
I’ll keep other premos.
He isn’t setting a big ceiling, he isn’t that underpriced in current role, and he isn’t going to get DPP so not much use holding.

 

[tigs2010]

depends on your team structure i guess, but i dont think it can ever backfire if you just trade macrae to oliver or brayshaw.... (injuries permitting).

Just realised with Stocker I can only get as high as Touk. Didn’t realise how much Stocker had gained so far

 

[mrpig]

Just realised with Stocker I can only get as high as Touk. Didn’t realise how much Stocker had gained so far

could you just do a one up one down with powell and flanders, where you get caminti, and also get an uber premium... and then just field chandler and pedlar?

 

[Shaunn]

i'd hold onto powell one more week, with an LDU tag and simpkin out, you'd have to guess that if any week he'd have a good one itd be this week against the hawks

Dont mind doing flanders and Macrae to something like stocker and laird/brayshaw/oliver if you have the cash for it

I think Powell and Flanders go before Macrae at this point.

 

[tigs2010]

could you just do a one up one down with powell and flanders, where you get caminti, and also get an uber premium... and then just field chandler and pedlar?

It would get me $848k any position bar ruck. Really leads me to Daicos.

 

[mrpig]

It would get me $848k any position bar ruck. Really leads me to Daicos.

yeh, probably a good shout just to go powell and flanders to cashgen rookie and daicos..... such an annoying amount of money, coz you miss out on anyone super reliable on any other position. Daicos will probably fix your depleted backline, whilst also generating cash with camintiti

 

[Decimation]

Thought I'd share this so you can enjoy my pain. Either I didn't select or the app didn't select Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

29

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

as emergency when trying to get Olivers VC score.

Would have put me 13th overall. I need to give myself an uppercut.

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[Phar Ace]

I'm coming around to keeping Macrae as well. Hate what he's done so far but I'm hoping for a rebound with Bevo being Bevo actually helping this week by plonking Jack back in the middle. That would count as innovation for Lukey B is my hope as it'd be moving one of his forwards from last week up to the midfield....ooooohhhhh....innovation!!

I'm also waving good bye to the Setterfield ship. I missed it, I'm spewing but my hope is it's gone. The other thing playing in to that thinking is not only the cash gen now is line ball, but that StKilda are coming up. Many of us were all scared off the Brayshaw train by the potential tag but Ross put the clamp on Serong, not Brayshaw. With Windhager now seemingly fit, does he go at perhaps the biggest reason Essendon have been going OK and clamp Setters?

I can't bring myself to include Ziebell either, just feels very temporary.

So although my scoring hasn't been good at all, I'm holding fat on keeping my under performing premos and instead go for cash or await what I believe is a looming def rook crisis this week (Uwland & Chesser for sure and perhaps Cowan too - all of whom I have) and respond to that rather than jerk to onfield dramas.

Play the long game I guess.

Thats my current thought anyway. Come team selections and Wobbly may get wobblier and get rash. Macrae still burns bright as a target but it may be sideways-ish to LDU or Kelly instead of the more popular Setters option.

There are lots of possibilities - I think having a reasonably consistent strategy for sections of the season narrows the potential possibilities.

One good game and one ordinary game is not my strategy for a trade, so Macrae stays this week - whether it is a mistake or not we'll find out. Macrae has tonned up plenty against the Lions too.

We don't have to try very hard to find a reason not to bring in a player and/or not to keep a player. That's the easy bit! I can't stand sideways trading this time of year. These invariably are the trades you regret in the last 5-6 Rounds.

 

[Phar Ace]

Thought I'd share this so you can enjoy my pain. Either I didn't select or the app didn't select Rowan Marshall as emergency when trying to get Olivers VC score.

Would have put me 13th overall. I need to give myself an uppercut.

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[Cm Perfect]

There are lots of possibilities - I think having a reasonably consistent strategy for sections of the season narrows the potential possibilities.

One good game and one ordinary game is not my strategy for a trade, so Macrae stays this week - whether it is a mistake or not we'll find out. Macrae has tonned up plenty against the Lions too.

We don't have to try very hard to find a reason not to bring in a player and/or not to keep a player. That's the easy bit! I can't stand sideways trading this time of year. These invariably are the trades you regret in the last 5-6 Rounds.

Interesting - I've enjoyed all the Macrae chat this week.

The thing that tips it for me is that he's now averaged 95 over his last 12 games, (92 if you exclude the final) which is enough of a form line to show me that he's not the same scorer anymore, and is now more in that Matt Rowell/Cam Guthrie zone of being a decent scorer, but not near enough to the top mids to be a keeper.

But we'll see what happens from here - can definitely see it going either way.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Interesting - I've enjoyed all the Macrae chat this week.

The thing that tips it for me is that he's now averaged 95 over his last 12 games, (92 if you exclude the final) which is enough of a form line to show me that he's not the same scorer anymore, and is now more in that Matt Rowell/Cam Guthrie zone of being a decent scorer, but not near enough to the top mids to be a keeper.

But we'll see what happens from here - can definitely see it going either way.

I'm the other way...don't have him but a close watch for both him and Anderson over the next fortnight as potential upgrade targets.

 

[Cm Perfect]

I'm the other way...don't have him but a close watch for both him and Anderson over the next fortnight as potential upgrade targets.

That's a great position to be in - you can keep an eye on him and see if the form line starts ticking back up, without the pain of having him in your team.

 

[Phar Ace]

Interesting - I've enjoyed all the Macrae chat this week.

The thing that tips it for me is that he's now averaged 95 over his last 12 games, (92 if you exclude the final) which is enough of a form line to show me that he's not the same scorer anymore, and is now more in that Matt Rowell/Cam Guthrie zone of being a decent scorer, but not near enough to the top mids to be a keeper.

But we'll see what happens from here - can definitely see it going either way.

Good call, and yes I said much earlier on in this thread he is on the decline (he's 28, 29 later during this season) whilst LDU is on the up. You only need to look at their score patterns for the last two years - complete different directions - but neither is Macrae falling off a cliff, just as LDU is not on the fast lift. Both are on escalators in opposite directions and giving each other a wave as they just passed equilibrium, give or take a few games.

LDU 2021 20g for Avg 81.6
2022 21g for Avg 93.0
Since 2022 Byes Avg 107.81

Crae 2021 22g for Avg 115.9
2022 22g for Avg 103.4
Since 2022 Byes Avg 97.08

The smart money was on LDU. Crae is still valued at $34k more than LDU. That will likely flip in the coming games leading to the next byes. But Crae is still worth holding if you think you can make more than say $60-$100k elsewhere using your valuable trades rooks and mid-pricers, and still move him to LDU during or post byes. What is your opportunity cost?!

 

[kozi]

Thought I'd share this so you can enjoy my pain. Either I didn't select or the app didn't select Rowan Marshall as emergency when trying to get Olivers VC score.

Would have put me 13th overall. I need to give myself an uppercut.

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How the heck does that even happen? I always thought the thing can't even save your team unless there's 4 emergencies selected. People got done like that a year or two ago where it didn't submit their team due to only 3 selected and they got 0 for round 1

 

[Milo Cyrus]

McComb's been dropped TedDougChris ! You'll have to trade him now.

 

[tigs2010]

McComb's been dropped TedDougChris ! You'll have to trade him now.

Put ya combs out for TDC

 

[kozi]

McLean dropped. Another career being strangled at the hands of Bevo

 

[Milo Cyrus]

Put ya combs out for TDC