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Mowman said:
Please go to Hawthorn you fraud Leathlean you sent us years backwards when in charge of the football department
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I've come around. I used to defend him but not anymore. The change to the footy dept last year was only half of what was required. We need to cut the deadwood out of the exec positions and the board.
 
Mowman said:
Please go to Hawthorn you fraud Leathlean you sent us years backwards when in charge of the football department
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He's probably a very good administrator and decision maker to get so far up in the AFL. Well otherwise went to school with a few that were there anyway. But anyway, a club that gets a disgraced sex pest who was in a communications role and had no experience inside clubland to do a review on a list isn't his fault.

If you ask your builder to fix your computer and he drives a few 3 inch nails through the case and it's still ****ed that's on you. He's probably fine when he's nowhere near the footy department but egotistical types think that they know everything and can do stuff they know nothing about.
 

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"St Kilda ranks No.1 for percentage of scores from intercepts, racking up 63.5 per cent of scores from that source. But it lacks variety in how it scores, ranking at the very bottom for percentage of scores from stoppages at just 34.3 per cent."

I think this is a really good point, explains why when I watch a game I'm constantly hoping for the opposition to make a mistake so that we have a chance of actually scoring.
 
bergholt said:
"St Kilda ranks No.1 for percentage of scores from intercepts, racking up 63.5 per cent of scores from that source. But it lacks variety in how it scores, ranking at the very bottom for percentage of scores from stoppages at just 34.3 per cent."

I think this is a really good point, explains why when I watch a game I'm constantly hoping for the opposition to make a mistake so that we have a chance of actually scoring.
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There is a real positive in these stats. The forward line needs experience and some strings to their bow but in every other metric we are actually looking quite solid. That forward conversion is the glaring issue.
 
George said:
I've come around. I used to defend him but not anymore. The change to the footy dept last year was only half of what was required. We need to cut the deadwood out of the exec positions and the board.
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I wonder if that's Bassats thinking. You don't undertake a review that ended up bigger and results in a coach being given the arse.

It would have to have more in it.

In a slight tangent how long does Bassat have on his term? 2025 isn't it?
 
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gringo2011 said:
He's probably a very good administrator and decision maker to get so far up in the AFL. Well otherwise went to school with a few that were there anyway. But anyway, a club that gets a disgraced sex pest who was in a communications role and had no experience inside clubland to do a review on a list isn't his fault.

If you ask your builder to fix your computer and he drives a few 3 inch nails through the case and it's still ****ed that's on you. He's probably fine when he's nowhere near the footy department but egotistical types think that they know everything and can do stuff they know nothing about.
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If Walsh hadn’t walked from football manager when he did Leathlean would of been gone then
 
Pakenhamsaint said:
I wonder if that's Bassats thinking. You don't undertake a review that ended up bigger and results in a coach being given the arse.

It would have to have more in it.
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Bassat has no clue unfortunately. Lyon doesn't rate Lethers and here's Bassat promoting him lol
 

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I spent some time looking back at Ross's first season as coach (2007). I remember at the time feeling very underwhelmed - we'd come off the back of finals under GT and a style of football which was unbelievable to watch. If you look at that particular season it doesn't mirror this one but it was very win-loss-win-loss to the point we finished 11-10-1 after 22 rounds and just missed finals (probably a similar result facing us this year).

Then in the middle of 2008 it clicked.

Ross has said ad-nauseum this year is very much exploration, from the point of view of understanding the capabilities and ceilings for the players. I don't think it's coming as a surprise to him that the talent on the list in 2023 isn't near what he had in 2007. In fairness to Ross I think he's overperformed with our list to get us to 9 and 8 given the amount of game time he's given to Phillipou (18yo), Caminiti (19yo), Windhager (20yo), Owens (19yo), Nasiah WM (20yo) and now Peris (19yo). Thats 33% of your starting line up aged 20 or under.

Based on this I think we need to take a breath and remember what this year was about regardless of making finals or not. It takes time to implement a game plan, just ask the squad from 2007.
 
gringo2011 said:
There is a real positive in these stats. The forward line needs experience and some strings to their bow but in every other metric we are actually looking quite solid. That forward conversion is the glaring issue.
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Suggests to be that when everybody is running forward into acres of space we are okay, but that if the ball starts to move a bit slower and we get behind the opposition defenders we are no good. Or put that another way, if they drop back and cover space then they become the intercept mark champions of the world, roaming around without a man to guard, as we are all up the ground playing total team defence.

What is the solution to this? Is it to have players ahead of the ball and reduce the total team defence a bit? That is the million dollar three / four grand final non-wins Ross Lyon question.

Hope that we can continue with the forward handball and kick from a mark mentality and just get the forwards to click / buy in somehow. But I also feel an adjustment to structure will be necessary.
 
Pakenhamsaint said:
I wonder if it's a " get him out of the way" promotion.
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My thoughts entirely.

Wasn't it the AFL who brought him in as footy boss with no experience in clubland? Jobs for the boys.
CEO is probably more his go. And he can go...to Hawthorn or wherever, but Caro did say they had a few options, so its far from a done deal, especially if said he is happy at the Saints.
 
Pakenhamsaint said:
I wonder if it's a " get him out of the way" promotion.
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I don't believe that because Lethlean had the CEO job well before Lyon was ever a consideration.
 
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