List Mgmt. 2023 Staying or Going? - Delistings

[Samsquanch]

Grumpy Old Gaso.

You cheeky young blokes.....





....Your time will come!

 

[Sticksphat]

That was in case we recruit the other Bonar.

A preemptive delisting, I like it.

 

[Gasometer]

You cheeky young blokes.....





....Your time will come!

Joined March 2002

Fmd

Fml

 

[Ashley B]

Are you Passmore or Ashley B ?

Or both?

Subtraction I think currently betting on the game lol

 

[The Dingrel]

Thinking further on Edwards, reflecting back on the successful talls in our system this millenium:

Petrie - showed AFL quality by year 2 but 300 games shows he was an exceptional player in many ways

Hale - took about 4-5 years to start making any kind of statement in the AFL and odd anomaly aside ("Hailing Goals") I'd argue it took him about 11 years to really start fulfilling his AFL potential

McIntosh - took about 4 years to show a bit in the AFL and 5 years to become a solid AFL player

Goldstein - took 2 years to show glimpses in the AFL, 3 years to show real AFL potential but probably 4-5 to start becoming the player we're accustomed to

I'd argue these were the only decent rucks/ruck-forwards we've produced this century.

So even without accounting for Edwards' interruptions, he's a baby in development terms and at the same stage Hale and McIntosh hadn't even registered any kind of presence in the AFL.

I hear what you're saying but on the whole Edwards hasn't shown any presence in the VFL either. That practice match against Melbourne (was it start of this season or last?) where he came on and jumped over the top of Gawn at his first centre bounce I thought we had a real find on our hands. There must be some reason why he hasn't come on at all, and I'd like to see him get another year IF there's a extenuating circumstances which can be resolved. If its attitude and a lack of work ethic then sayonara.

 

[The Dingrel]

The first half dozen players we lose are likely to really improve the long term quality of our list given our strong draft hand and hopefully access to one or two reasonable players from other lists.

But after that, the marginal gains are really speculative- we are picking up super low draft picks or rolling the dice on mature agers that have only a small chance of cutting it in the AFL.

I get the need to improve our on field results, but the evident joy many posters take in delisting players does my head in.

I don't mind picking up DFA roll players on base contracts. I think part of the issue in the past we were paying overs for players who had ZERO trade value. Take Mason Wood for example, paid up for him after the swans I think showed interest, but zero trade value so delisted, then gets picked up by the saints and gets some continuity. End of the day, if a player has zero trade value then they're not worth more than a very basic contract.

 

[ferball]

What’s our tally at now?

Unfortunately, I don’t think Perez is going. Seems really confident in the club. Even said he think we’ll still get Reid .

I'd keep Perez.

He might not make it but we're losing four old blokes. Probably Mckay, then we have a pool of players - Young, Mahony, Bonar, Edwards, Spicer, Turner, Howe. And Perez that's - 13. Even if we lose the rookie spots we still need to find 11 players and right now we have picks 2, 14, 30 and a couple in the 50s. I'd guess that Young, Bonar, Turner and Howe will go. Probably Mahony then Spicer and Edwards ... well one's tall the other is fast so they might get a year based on those factors.

Perez is a better kick than Young, probably more durable than Bonar and we should keep one as HBF depth. If Bonar could go five minutes without an injury he'd be worth keeping too.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Young, Perez, Spicer, Mahony, Edwards, Turner, Howe, Bonar.

I hope we keep Perez

And I still think bonar is good depth

 

[tazaa]

The rookies are done.
Turner, Howe and Edwards. Can’t keep them if we have to wind back the list from 46 to 42.

The 5 on the senior list without deals being Perez, Bonar, Young, Mahony and Spicer - I can’t make a case for any hanging around in 2024.
I think the Goldi and McKay news has merely delayed the news but it seems we won’t hear anything until the assistance package is announced.

 

[joegreen]

The rookies are done.
Turner, Howe and Edwards. Can’t keep them if we have to wind back the list from 46 to 42.

The 5 on the senior list without deals being Perez, Bonar, Young, Mahony and Spicer - I can’t make a case for any hanging around in 2024.
I think the Goldi and McKay news has merely delayed the news but it seems we won’t hear anything until the assistance package is announced.

If the list size remains at 46, then there is a chance one or more of them stay?

Or gone regardless and we will add new players?

 

[tazaa]

If the list size remains at 46, then there is a chance one or more of them stay?

Or gone regardless and we will add new players?

Rawlings has already said it’s need to be wound back

 

[kool kangas]

If the list size remains at 46, then there is a chance one or more of them stay?

Or gone regardless and we will add new players?

It wont ...Its already been said that its going back to 42 both by Brady and Gil..

 

[joegreen]

Rawlings has already said it’s need to be wound back

It wont ...Its already been said that its going back to 42 both by Brady and Gil..

Thanks, disappointing. Was hoping we'd keep them. Curious now whether we even asked for that as part of the submission.

 

[The acurate one]

then like The Nostradamus I'd give him a spot.

Well my BF sources have confirmed he might get delisted as our BF board has to reduce our list by one.
So watch this space

 

[The acurate one]

What's Bonar done to make you delist him twice?

Delisting twice is something I’ve been a fan of. Means they have to be drafted twice. So highly unlikely that happens.

If Bonars stays I’ll bloody throw up

 

[RossHenshaw]

Delisting twice is something I’ve been a fan of. Means they have to be drafted twice. So highly unlikely that happens.

If Bonars stays I’ll bloody throw up

The ultimate shiteman

 

[RossHenshaw]

The ultimate shiteman

Gonna miss him ….

 

[The acurate one]

Gonna miss him ….
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Has all the tools but two knee recos have taken their toll

 

[RossHenshaw]

Has all the tools but two knee recos have taken their toll

Accurate- I can’t believe it’s the first ring I’ve disagreed with one of your comments ever ?!
U are surely taking the Pi55
The guy is a SPUD .

 

[koshari]

The rookies are done.
Turner, Howe and Edwards. Can’t keep them if we have to wind back the list from 46 to 42.

The 5 on the senior list without deals being Perez, Bonar, Young, Mahony and Spicer - I can’t make a case for any hanging around in 2024.
I think the Goldi and McKay news has merely delayed the news but it seems we won’t hear anything until the assistance package is announced.

Ideally all would be gone but with the retirements of hall , cunners and ziebell plus pending departures of goldy and mckay i just dont think we will find enough quality after our draft picks to replace them all with dfa,s.

 

[Ashley B]

They will know after the Grand Final the players looking for a contract someone told me

 

[Ashley B]

Gonna miss him ….
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Gonna miss him ,I barely saw him lol

 

[Farthers]

So safe to assume we hadn't announced delistings as we were waiting on the announcement of the extra 2 rookie picks. Who survives or who do we rookie now?

 

[Ashley B]

So safe to assume we hadn't announced delistings as we were waiting on the announcement of the extra 2 rookie picks. Who survives or who do we rookie now?

We know who one will be not sure of the other

 

[Mr north man]

So safe to assume we hadn't announced delistings as we were waiting on the announcement of the extra 2 rookie picks. Who survives or who do we rookie now?

I know they won’t rookie him but Tyler Sellers would be ideal as a Rookie another Forward to help Larkey good kick good mark