2024/2025 Gold Coast Draft & Trade Periods

[KaySwizzle]

Where did I say that?

IIRC you said that Heeney was worth 6 + 12, Rioli wasn't.

I just said I think Rioli is worth 6 + 12 with something coming back your way?

I get what you are saying, to a point. Both are in their prime, but only probably have half a dozen years left close to that level. Both won a BnF.

But their impact on a game is clearly different. Heeney was close to best player in the comp for half a season. Rioli was maybe in the best 50.

Part of that is positional. Halfbacks are valued as much as goal scoring, gaming breaking mids.

Rioli is a good player in a (currently) bad team playing a position that is important, but not as important as others. Halfbacks and defenders usually win BnFs in struggling teams (Collins, Sheezel, Rioli etc. as they are always near the ball).

TL;DR he isn’t worth close to what Heeney is worth.

Pick 6 is still overs (a mid first round would normally be fair) but most trades for “star” players use to top pick the club has to offer as a starting point. That’s just what is normally used.

Thinking now 19 and 22 from the swans is prob better than Carlton’s future first and second Rd picks?

Say pick 15 and pick 35-40

But what do we do with pick 19 and 22 trade them again?

Better to have them than not, I guess? Can continue trading forward into eternity (current drafts are always valued more highly by most clubs than the future).

Or can trade them for players, if any are available.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Where did I say that?

IIRC you said that Heeney was worth 6 + 12, Rioli wasn't.

I just said I think Rioli is worth 6 + 12 with something coming back your way?

Unless that is a pick about 4 then your kidding yourself

 

[robo_1]

I am optimistic that we can get F1, sending back F2/F3.

Sure Luko has some flaws but he is highly talented. It would not surprise me as a full forward for Port 50+ goals.

We insisted on F2 for Chol and got it. Surely Luko is better

There’s no doubt he will be better somewhere else. Regardless of height our forward line is very similar and vanilla hence the difference mac andrew made when he came in and offered something different that we haven’t had for a long time someone that will lead out for the ball

Our forward line has always been young smalls getting games into them and one tall with medium experience and developing second and third
Lynch developing while Dixon was there when he left he was the main guy with wright developing then lynch and wright left that left developing king and lukocius

Now we got king experienced with developing Walter. Will king stay long enough for Walter to develop properly or will Walter replace him?

Our forward line is always congested with our most experienced tall double teamed

 

[Ben Drever]

 

[SandyToes]

I wish I knew more about trades and points and future ****s but if someone was worth 6+12 wouldnt that be in the spectrum of the Club losing said player getting a priority pick?
Or is that a different scenario?

 

[sunsofanarchy]

I wish I knew more about trades and points and future ****s but if someone was worth 6+12 wouldnt that be in the spectrum of the Club losing said player getting a priority pick?
Or is that a different scenario?

That's for a free agent (out of contract), you get priority pick from the afl to compensate you on your loss. Rioli is contracted and so we have to trade for him.

Article was writted by the age (carro) so I'm going to ignore it, but run gold coast, run and let them screw themselves like the creator of the new joker movie has done. What a steaming pile of !

 

[Jen2310]

Those those that dont have access.

Dan Houston (Port Adelaide to a Victorian club)​

This remains one of the pivotal plays of trade week. Carlton, Collingwood and North Melbourne are among the clubs trying to lure the creative half-back, with Gold Coast’s pick No.13 looming as the key to any deal.

The Suns have made the selection available to rival clubs, with the Magpies hoping to swoop on it as part of a deal for John Noble, who has declared he wants to head north. However, Collingwood’s wish for that to be part of the Noble deal may not happen, with Gold Coast weighing up pick swaps with other clubs instead.

The Blues, Melbourne and Western Bulldogs have put forward future first-round selections as they chase the coveted selection, while Sydney would be willing to part with their top two picks this year: Nos.19 and 22.
Carlton, who have long made clear their intention to retain pick 12, could also use their future second-rounder to sway the Suns, assuming they can secure a separate 2025 second-rounder to satisfy league rules on future trading.

Dan Rioli (Richmond to Gold Coast)​

The Suns’ pick six will be central to this trade, but the Tigers have thus far also asked for Gold Coast to include their No.13 selection. Richmond are adamant they want more than pick six alone for the triple premiership player, who just won the club’s Jack Dyer Medal for the first time and is contracted until the end of 2027, but it is doubtful the Suns will do that, given what else they are trying to do with No.13.

Jack Lukosius (Gold Coast to Port Adelaide)​

The No.2 pick in the 2018 draft was dropped late in the season at the Suns, but returned to kick two goals in the last round. Lukosius is highly skilled, but set to earn about $2.5m across the next two years, so Gold Coast can wipe a lot of money off their books by trading him.

The Power are scoring a player entering his prime at 24, with 116 games behind him, and will spread his money across a longer-term contract – for as many as six seasons – than the back-ended Suns deal.

There have been preliminary discussions between the clubs about Port handing over their future first-round selection.

That move will require AFL approval, as clubs must use at least two first-round picks in the previous four-year period. The Power last selected in the first round in 2021, when they took Josh Sinn, but have traded them out ever since, including to secure Jason Horne-Francis.

The league is likely to green-light the impending request, given Port gained a young player in Horne-Francis for trading out some of their first-rounders previously.

The Power are trying to bring in another first-round pick for Dan Houston, but will seek to hang onto that, and trade the future first to the Suns for Lukosius. They are reluctant to pull the trigger on the Lukosius deal until they know they have secured a pick for Houston.

 

[lommy]

They add a little more money in every article lol


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[Iva Bigun]

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Caro trying to get her gnarled fingers on pick 13 as well

 

[Ben Drever]

MISSING the 2023 finals series was a major reason behind John Noble

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requesting a trade from Collingwood to Gold Coast, his manager has told Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio.

After playing 91 consecutive games, Noble was dropped on the eve of last year's Finals, missing the Magpies' run through September that ended in a premiership win over Brisbane.

Noble's manager, Scott Lucas

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of the Phoenix Management Group, told Trade Radio that period planted the seed of change for the running defender.

"You have a player that's played 60 or 80 games in a row that's omitted for the finals, so job security suddenly becomes less secure, doesn't it?" Lucas said.

John Noble

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John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

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2.2

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MG

229.8

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in action during the R23 match between Collingwood and Brisbane at the MCG on August 17, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos

"And therefore, a level of anxiety exists in the player. 'I thought it was going well and it's not going as well'.

"Is this where I see a long-term future for me because I thought I was going ok, yet the biggest disappointment in my career has just unfolded before my eyes? And it does take a little bit to work back from that because it is a really challenging thing to happen for you."

Noble was also left out of Collingwood's team in the early rounds this season before going on to play 20 games.

Lucas said "doubt" crept into Noble's mind about how secure his place was in the team, resulting in the 27-year-old requesting a move to the Suns, which would also put him closer to his family.

"Certainly, doubt creeps in for any player. Not that you think you're going better than you are, but perhaps you thought you were a little more secure in your environment.

"With that, players can become unsettled and they're looking for more security and a place where they think perhaps, not that they're more valued, but opportunities might be more prevalent for them ... rather than feeling that uncertainty of selection so often."

- Michael Whiting

 

[Ben Drever]

MISSING the 2023 finals series was a major reason behind John Noble requesting a trade from Collingwood to Gold Coast, his manager has told Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio.

After playing 91 consecutive games, Noble was dropped on the eve of last year's Finals, missing the Magpies' run through September that ended in a premiership win over Brisbane.

Noble's manager, Scott Lucas of the Phoenix Management Group, told Trade Radio that period planted the seed of change for the running defender.

"You have a player that's played 60 or 80 games in a row that's omitted for the finals, so job security suddenly becomes less secure, doesn't it?" Lucas said.

John Noble in action during the R23 match between Collingwood and Brisbane at the MCG on August 17, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos

"And therefore, a level of anxiety exists in the player. 'I thought it was going well and it's not going as well'.

"Is this where I see a long-term future for me because I thought I was going ok, yet the biggest disappointment in my career has just unfolded before my eyes? And it does take a little bit to work back from that because it is a really challenging thing to happen for you."

Noble was also left out of Collingwood's team in the early rounds this season before going on to play 20 games.

Lucas said "doubt" crept into Noble's mind about how secure his place was in the team, resulting in the 27-year-old requesting a move to the Suns, which would also put him closer to his family.

"Certainly, doubt creeps in for any player. Not that you think you're going better than you are, but perhaps you thought you were a little more secure in your environment.

"With that, players can become unsettled and they're looking for more security and a place where they think perhaps, not that they're more valued, but opportunities might be more prevalent for them ... rather than feeling that uncertainty of selection so often."

- Michael Whiting

I just hope he realises we have never played finals

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

lol

 

[Iva Bigun]

I just hope he realises we have never played finals

It talks a lot about security, he will be getting a long term contract with us which I think is the driver and it’s just a bonus that he can give them the middle finger for dropping him in a premiership run

 

[Iva Bigun]

lol

Every club thinks our trades team are simple Jack from Tropic thunder, if that’s what they are asking we should return fire with Noble and F1&2 for 12

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Every club thinks our trades team are simple Jack from Tropic thunder, if that’s what they are asking we should return fire with Noble and F1&2 for 12
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It's just their first offer. Even Ralphy's not buying it, and he's in the pocket of the big Melbourne clubs.

 

[Supersuns]

Every club starts with something ridiculous. It's how it works.

 

[Young_Guns]

So, we could deal with Collingwood who sound like they are going to be absolute a***holes over a role player,

OR

We could give #13 to Carlton for a future 1st and future 2nd, f*cking over Collingwood’s chances of getting Houston and giving him to their direct rival, while still having a heap of picks that would be enough value for Noble which Collingwood can either accept or look like fools for turning down.

Hmmm tough choice.

 

[TheGoldPersons]

Rioli deal gonna drag on apparently urghh

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Rioli deal gonna drag on apparently urghh

The AFL stage manages Trade Week. 90% of these deals are done but they want to generate clicks and air time.

 

[Jirik13]

Cameron on Trade Radio.
Luko - talks go well. So, I expect F1 is coming in

Noble and Rioli - As expected it will go distance. Pick 13 decision first.

 

[lommy]

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I just hope he realises we have never played finals

Can’t be omitted for finals if the team your playing for doesn’t make it




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[Maybe Tomorrow]

Pretty straight bat from Cameron.

"We've spoken to Richmond about pick 6"
Collingwood sound like they get first option, and he wants futures.
Nothing surprising there.