Play Nice 2024 AFL and State League Attendance

[PonsfordMagpie]

After Round 20 (excluding Gather Round)

HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)

• Collingwood (9) = 587,570 (65,286)
• Essendon (8) = 457,651 (57,206)
• Carlton (9) = 512,801 (56,978)
• Richmond (9) = 467,473 (51,941)
• West Coast (9) = 421,443 (46,827)
• Fremantle (9) = 419,883 (46,654)
• Adelaide (10) = 409,858 (40,986)
• Geelong (9) = 365,728 (40,636)
• Sydney (9) = 345,881 (38,431)
• Hawthorn (9) = 326,779 (36,309)
• Port Adelaide (9) = 317,025 (35,225)
• Melbourne (9) = 312,391 (34,710)
• Brisbane Lions (9) = 276,472 (30,719)
• Western Bulldogs (8) = 238,282 (29,785)
• St Kilda (9) = 266,833 (29,648)
• North Melbourne (9) = 199,014 (22,113)
• Gold Coast (10) = 158,397 (15,840)
• GWS (9) = 110,952 (12,328)

HOME AND AWAY CROWDS
Club (# of games played) = Total (Average)

• Collingwood (18) = 1,083,896 (60,216)
• Essendon (18) = 971,354 (53,964)
• Carlton (18) = 970,012 (53,890)
• Richmond (18) = 845,437 (46,969)
• Geelong (18) = 775,254 (43,070)
• Melbourne (18) = 765,679 (42,538)
• Hawthorn (18) = 727,653 (40,425)
• West Coast (18) = 715,977 (39,777)
• Sydney (18) = 707,030 (39,279)
• Adelaide (18) = 690,223 (38,346)
• Fremantle (18) = 653,648 (36,314)
• Port Adelaide (18) = 581,858 (32,325)
• Brisbane Lions (18) = 569,870 (31,659)
• Western Bulldogs (18) = 566,674 (31,482)
• St Kilda (18) = 565,386 (31,410)
• North Melbourne (18) = 462,139 (25,674)
• GWS (18) = 378,936 (21,052)
• Gold Coast (18) = 358,103 (19,895)

 

[Walshawk]

So Sydney (Homebush) and Adelaide Grand Finals with an option to add another two years onto the AFL contract for Grand Finals at the MCG?

Will be interesting to see how it impacts the co-tenants and AFL members

I hope they can do it in two years like in 1991/92.
Knock down the whole stand, play a GF at Homebush. Capacity would be 55k for one season, it would then increase over the second.
Better than three seasons at 75k doing it in stages.

 

[Hawkk]

I hope they can do it in two years like in 1991/92.
Knock down the whole stand, play a GF at Homebush. Capacity would be 55k for one season, it would then increase over the second.
Better than three seasons at 75k doing it in stages.

How would Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and Carlton sell reserve seating (Melbourne too but they have a smaller membership and a larger share in MCC)

Essendon might end up playing a full season at Docklands if the capacity of the MCG drops right back

 

[Bjo187]

I hope they can do it in two years like in 1991/92.
Knock down the whole stand, play a GF at Homebush. Capacity would be 55k for one season, it would then increase over the second.
Better than three seasons at 75k doing it in stages.

Might be a chance to be done in two years if the cfmeu is no longer operating in Victoria .

 

[RedV3x]

That isnt true at the MCG in particular where several hundred thousand members contribute substantially towards the MCC and the MCG, and where its management of the ground is effectively enshrined in an act of parliament.

The VFL stuffed up when they negotiated the terms of closure of Waverley Park.
Maintenance should have been split down the middle and revenue each to his own.
Any Act of parliament can be changed.

THe SCG is also not AFL funded.

The SCG is funded by horrendous rents charged by the SCG trust.

Neither was Perth Stadium to which the AFL didnt give a cent.

Nor the federal government. The AFl did give something.

Adelaide Oval the AFL came in late with 5 million for change rooms or parking or some rubbish.

how much federal money ?

The SCG and Gabba developments...

The SCG does not allow any AFL investment - the Swans tried last century.
The Gabba is all about the Olympics nothing about football.

I mean the list goes on.

Yes, AFL stadiums poorly funded, forced into one-sided contracts with cricket and virtually no federal aid.
Compare that to the $billions in government aid to certain other football code.

 

[Billy ray]

Nor the federal government. The AFl did give something.

No they didnt. Not to perth stadium

 

[The_Wookie]

AFL Round 20 kicked off on Sunday with the Pies taking on the Tigers in a relatively low key affair that drew 58,342 to the MCG. This gives the Pies a home average of 63,077 for the year, including a home average attendance of 68,767 at the MCG in 2024.

To Sydney and the Swans drew a decent crowd of 36,028 to the SCG for the clash against the Bulldogs. This gives the Swans a home attendance average of 38,431 for the season, with all matches played at the SCG.

To conclude the round, the Crows hosted the Hawks at Adelaide Oval with 41,823 in attendance, taking Adelaide to a season home attendance of 41,625. Adelaides home season is now complete with 457,878 people attending their matches at Adelaide Oval this year.

28/7/24 - Sunday Crowds and TV Ratings - AFL, NRL, NRLW - Sports Industry AU

AFL Round 20 kicked off on Sunday with the Pies taking on the Tigers in a relatively low key affair that drew 58,342 to the MCG. This gives the Pies a home average of 63,077 for the year, including a home average attendance of 68,767 at the MCG in 2024. To Sydney and the Swans...

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[manicmagpie]

To conclude the round, the Crows hosted the Hawks at Adelaide Oval with 41,823 in attendance, taking Adelaide to a season home attendance of 41,625. Adelaides home season is now complete with 457,878 people attending their matches at Adelaide Oval this year.

Don't forget that Adelaide get 12 home games a year at the moment. They've still got the Bulldogs at Adelaide Oval in a couple of weeks' time.

 

[The_Wookie]

Don't forget that Adelaide get 12 home games a year at the moment. They've still got the Bulldogs at Adelaide Oval in a couple of weeks' time.

ah yeah

 

[RedV3x]

No they didnt. Not to perth stadium

"The state government negotiated an agreement with the AFL and the West Australian Football Commission (WAFC) in October 2017, allowing the Eagles and Dockers to play their home matches at the venue from the start of the 2018 season, in exchange for a $10.3 million a year guarantee for the WAFC until 2028."

 

[The_Wookie]

"The state government negotiated an agreement with the AFL and the West Australian Football Commission (WAFC) in October 2017, allowing the Eagles and Dockers to play their home matches at the venue from the start of the 2018 season, in exchange for a $10.3 million a year guarantee for the WAFC until 2028."

That underwriting is being met by the State Government and Optus Stadium, the AFL is on the hook for a decade only if that guarantee isnt met. The Federal Government didnt give it a cent.

 

[dave10]

Some dull games and disappointing crowds coming this weekend.

Roos / Tigers - How many? 25 -27k? Does either team actually want to win?

Bombers / Dockers - 24-28k. Could be really poor potentially judging by the pin pricked balloon.

Pies / Blues - thank god for Pendles. 75k likely becomes 85k+

Bulldogs / Dees - 26-27k? Looks a flat now

Power / Swans - This could be the terrific crowd of the weekend. Can it crack 40k?

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Dees don’t really like Marvel anyway. Dogs should be getting around 250 for Adam Treloar

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15.3

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4.6

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30.3

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16.3

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14.0

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3.3

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CL

1.6

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who is a favourite after arriving as well as supporting the good form. First home game for quite awhile.

I think it could get to 30k.

 

[Bjo187]

The dogs are great to watch at the moment. Unfortunately in their gf years they have peaked late so haven't been able to cash in on big crowds the whole season, might be the same again this year.

 

[gopies1981]

Some dull games and disappointing crowds coming this weekend.

Roos / Tigers - How many? 25 -27k? Does either team actually want to win?

Bombers / Dockers - 24-28k. Could be really poor potentially judging by the pin pricked balloon.

Pies / Blues - thank god for Pendles. 75k likely becomes 85k+

Bulldogs / Dees - 26-27k? Looks a flat now

Power / Swans - This could be the terrific crowd of the weekend. Can it crack 40k?

Depending on weather I think Collingwood v Carlton will draw 88,000 might nudge over 90,000 depending if all Collingwood reserve seat holders turn up……..no doubt it be a very pro Collingwood crowd as it is Pendles 400th and Collingwood home game. Don’t expect to win but hopefully they make it a contest

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Depending on weather I think Collingwood v Carlton will draw 88,000 might nudge over 90,000 depending if all Collingwood reserve seat holders turn up……..no doubt it be a very pro Collingwood crowd as it is Pendles 400th and Collingwood home game. Don’t expect to win but hopefully they make it a contest

I'm hoping that despite our lacklustre form, all our members turn out in force.

We saw what Richmond supporters did for Martin's 300th, so I'm hoping for something similar this Saturday night.

 

[Rouel_14]

Honestly if there is Ever a chance for Collingwood V Carlton to get 90+ it’s this.

If Richmond can do that for our hero at 300, surely 90,000 is the absolute floor for pendles 400.

I bet it’s about 20-50 over the Richmond figure


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[Raz Man]

Not looking forward to Sunday afternoon. A plethora of negativity is surrounding us atm and Freo can possibly end our season in front of a poor crowd 30-35,000 ppl! Now that would be horrible. Another Essendonesque season..

 

[dave10]

Honestly if there is Ever a chance for Collingwood V Carlton to get 90+ it’s this.

If Richmond can do that for our hero at 300, surely 90,000 is the absolute floor for pendles 400.

I bet it’s about 20-50 over the Richmond figure


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In reality I don’t think it’s likely Collingwood can actually draw 92,000. Its got nothing to do with supporter base size, it’s about the clubs having different operating strategies for their seating.

Unlike the Tigers, the Pies don’t have reserved seat ‘bays’, they have reserved seats allocated for the year. Where the Tigers can fill their reserved seat sections on demand, the Pies don’t have this mechanism and this means there will be empty and unused reserved seats on Saturday night. These seats were all utilised at the Tigers game for Dusty.

Also, bring a Saturday night is also a drag on the potential crowd. People go out on Saturday night, weddings, dates etc. it may only be 2/3% but that could equate to ~2-3K people compared to a more favourable daytime slot.

It’s all bits here and there but it’s the difference between 87-90,000 and 92,000.

 

[dave10]

Not looking forward to Sunday afternoon. A plethora of negativity is surrounding us atm and Freo can possibly end our season in front of a poor crowd 30-35,000 ppl! Now that would be horrible. Another Essendonesque season..

End our season? It’s over Raz, sorry to say it mate! Crowd will reflect the reality, not the fantasy.

 

[Peacock]

Pies/Blues is also a cat 2 game whereas Tigers/Hawks was a cat 3 game, so you could have had a family reunion if you wanted in the MCC if you were a provisional member. Are Pies fans actually that excited about Pendlebury and this game? I mean the Richmond Dusty thing kind of snowballed where all of a sudden you weren't a real fan unless you were there for Dusty's 300th, are Pies fans that insecure?

On another note it's looking odds on now there will be no prelim's in Melbourne and maybe only one or two finals before that

 

[gopies1981]

Not looking forward to Sunday afternoon. A plethora of negativity is surrounding us atm and Freo can possibly end our season in front of a poor crowd 30-35,000 ppl! Now that would be horrible. Another Essendonesque season..

Be very interesting to see how many Essendon fans turn up on Sunday. 4 weeks ago the afl would have expected 50,000 now I think the crowd will be between 27-30,000!! If the bombers lose this as expected and get thumped there next home game against the suns on Saturday could struggle to draw 20,000 which for Essendon would be there smallest crowd since their wooden spoon year of 2016 when they drew 14,000 v port and 16,000 v gws

 

[budge27]

HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)

• West Coast (9) = 421,443 (46,827)
• Fremantle (9) = 419,883 (46,654)

Will be interesting to see if the Dockers can overtake the Eagles.
Eagles have the Suns and Blues whilst the Dockers have the Cats and Power.

I reckon with the Dockers having more to play for they should overtake the Eagles.

 

[kranger]

After Round 20 (excluding Gather Round)

HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)

• Collingwood (9) = 587,570 (65,286)
• Essendon (8) = 457,651 (57,206)
• Carlton (9) = 512,801 (56,978)
• Richmond (9) = 467,473 (51,941)
• West Coast (9) = 421,443 (46,827)
• Fremantle (9) = 419,883 (46,654)
• Adelaide (10) = 409,858 (40,858)
• Geelong (9) = 365,728 (40,636)
• Sydney (9) = 345,881 (38,431)
• Hawthorn (9) = 326,779 (36,309)
• Port Adelaide (9) = 317,025 (35,225)
• Melbourne (9) = 312,391 (34,710)
• Brisbane Lions (9) = 276,472 (30,719)
• Western Bulldogs (8) = 238,282 (29,785)
• St Kilda (9) = 266,833 (29,648)
• North Melbourne (9) = 199,014 (22,113)
• Gold Coast (10) = 158,397 (15,840)
• GWS (9) = 110,952 (12,328)

If we also exclude games that are sold to secondary markets (I’ve italics these clubs), then after Round 20 (excluding Gather Round)

HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)

• Collingwood (9) = 587,570 (65,286)
• Essendon (8) = 457,651 (57,206)
• Carlton (9) = 512,801 (56,978)
• Richmond (9) = 467,473 (51,941)
• Hawthorn (6) = 288,953 (48,158)
• West Coast (9) = 421,443 (46,827)
• Fremantle (9) = 419,883 (46,654)
• Adelaide (10) = 409,858 (40,858)
• Geelong (9) = 365,728 (40,636)
• Sydney (9) = 345,881 (38,431)
• Melbourne (8) = 306,282 (38,285)
• Port Adelaide (9) = 317,025 (35,225)
• Western Bulldogs (7) = 228,530 (32,647)
• Brisbane Lions (9) = 276,472 (30,719)
• North Melbourne (6) = 178,899 (29,816)
• St Kilda (9) = 266,833 (29,648)
• Gold Coast (8) = 139,249 (17,406)
• GWS (7) = 85,424 (12,203

 

[dave10]

Be very interesting to see how many Essendon fans turn up on Sunday. 4 weeks ago the afl would have expected 50,000 now I think the crowd will be between 27-30,000!! If the bombers lose this as expected and get thumped there next home game against the suns on Saturday could struggle to draw 20,000 which for Essendon would be there smallest crowd since their wooden spoon year of 2016 when they drew 14,000 v port and 16,000 v gws

That 2016 year was a bit of an anomaly as it was a team of ring ins from a forecasting of future crowds perspective. It wasn’t an Essendon team (that’s what supporters felt). It was a gap year. All of their crowds were about 40% less than any other previous low crowds they’d drawn in their worst years against all opponents (ANZAC Day aside).

So 2016 aside, I don’t think they’ve ever drawn below 20,000 to a home game at Marvel or the MCG. I might be wrong though. But those 14/16k crowds won’t be achieved again under normal circumstances in their worst years.

They’ve drawn in the low 20’s and I think even their worst possible crowd in two weeks would be 20,000+. It’s exciting to see though isn’t it!