No Oppo Supporters 2024 AFL General Discussion

[Ticky009]

New thread for the new year.

 

[sataris]

 

[Ticky009]

With the new rules on F/S & Academy pending it might just get that way.

 

[sataris]

With the new rules on F/S & Academy pending it might just get that way.

I'm looking forward to the intelligent discussion with the victards

 

[Ed_Gein]

Just reading up on the Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

stuff. Seems like it's going from bad to worse. Wonder what the end game will be there?

 

[The King!]

Just reading up on the Clayton Oliver stuff. Seems like it's going from bad to worse. Wonder what the end game will be there?

contract with fox footy

 

[Callipygian]

"It’s a non-event now" : Cornes calls for change to prevent free agency classes from being 'underwhelming'

“This year’s free agency class is about as underwhelming as you are going to see."

www.sen.com.au

This is a strange take. Kane Cornes (who I mostly like - could add that as a semi-unpopular opinion) seems to be bitterly disappointed that this year's free agency class is the most underwhelming ever and that there is not enough player movement (which was the thing that free agency was meant to promote). Isn't this a case of the tail wagging the dog? Since when was player movement such an unalloyed good thing? What happened to the virtues of the one-club player? I still like seeing players stick by one club. Why do they have to keep moving around? Why is that so much better for the game other than the wannabe punditocracy has more to bloviate about?

 

[Kiama Chris]

"It’s a non-event now" : Cornes calls for change to prevent free agency classes from being 'underwhelming'

“This year’s free agency class is about as underwhelming as you are going to see."

www.sen.com.au

This is a strange take. Kane Cornes (who I mostly like - could add that as a semi-unpopular opinion) seems to be bitterly disappointed that this year's free agency class is the most underwhelming ever and that there is not enough player movement (which was the thing that free agency was meant to promote). Isn't this a case of the tail wagging the dog? Since when was player movement such an unalloyed good thing? What happened to the virtues of the one-club player? I still like seeing players stick by one club. Why do they have to keep moving around? Why is that so much better for the game other than the wannabe punditocracy has more to bloviate about?

Clubs are tying up their best talent on longer contracts which the AFLPA would be delighted with you would think. So the cost of bringing in the best talent rises significantly. That will test the imagination of AFL House how to make it an equalisation measure.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Clubs are tying up their best talent on longer contracts which the AFLPA would be delighted with you would think. So the cost of bringing in the best talent rises significantly. That will test the imagination of AFL House how to make it an equalisation measure.

even if it is front loaded Paying a b grade player $1.5m to move from lolkqngakangekanga to the poster Club for mediocrity in the Donnies is a joke.

 

[rustycrate]

even if it is front loaded Paying a b grade player $1.5m to move from lolkqngakangekanga to the poster Club for mediocrity in the Donnies is a joke.

The player is a winner, the club he left is a winner. Guess who never wins anything meaningful?

Clue: It rhymes with bombed and mess.

 

[Callipygian]

Loch Ness?

 

[bedford]

SEN discussion with Jenkins and Jase Mooney who gave the academies a massive wrap , would've loved it when he was starting in Wagga

 

[bedford]

Big blow for Eagles Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

to have surgery on Hamstring.

 

[caesar88]

Big blow for Eagles Liam Ryan to have surgery on Hamstring.

Premiership race wide open now.

 

[bedford]

Premiership race wide open now.

Terrific player to watch against other clubs

 

[S120]

I’m starting to feel more confident in what I suspect will be considered a very big and unpopular prediction for 2024: Melbourne to miss the 8.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

SEN discussion with Jenkins and Jase Mooney who gave the academies a massive wrap , would've loved it when he was starting in Wagga

Doesn't it alarm you that the academy issue is so misunderstood that it needs constant reminding of how beneficial it is?

 

[Dan87]

If Josh Jenkins

11

Josh Jenkins

Age

35

Ht

200cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

3.8

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.6

5star

and Cam Mooney were to tell me a stock tip I'm going to do the exact opposite

Not sure that's punching through

 

[Kiama Chris]

I’m starting to feel more confident in what I suspect will be considered a very big and unpopular prediction for 2024: Melbourne to miss the 8.

Yep, that's my call. Not a happy camp, big issues forward. Might scrape into 7th or 8th but my prediction is 9/10.

 

[S120]

Yep, that's my call. Not a happy camp, big issues forward. Might scrape into 7th or 8th but my prediction is 9/10.

They still have so much talent with their top core of players - Petracca, Viney, Fritsch, Gawn, Lever, May, Pickett are all top class in their parts of the field. But doesn't feel like a group that is all pushing the wheel in the same direction and at the same time, to butcher a few cliches. And I think with the lingering doubt hanging over Clayton Oliver and also, to a lesser degree, Simon Goodwin and the senior management of the club given how they've handled adversity over the last few years, I just think they might have an unexpected down year. It felt to me like last year was gonna be their big revenge season and they petered out in straight sets again. They've got some top class 18 year olds in at the most recent draft so that'll help in the long-term and Van Rooyen I do think will be a very good key forward so there's long-term optimism to be had, but they're in win now mode and I just have a suspicion they're gonna disappoint this year.

 

[Callipygian]

I’m starting to feel more confident in what I suspect will be considered a very big and unpopular prediction for 2024: Melbourne to miss the 8.

Me too. It's a very difficult 8 to tip. Currently I've got (not in order): Pies, Lions, Giants, Swans, Blues, Crows, Saints, Suns.

I would have been tempted to leave out the Suns but I think the AFL has set it up for them and it would take astounding ineptitude for them to miss from here after the accumulation of trade, draft and fixturing concessions they have been given over the years and for the year ahead.

 

[Millky95]

Me too. It's a very difficult 8 to tip. Currently I've got (not in order): Pies, Lions, Giants, Swans, Blues, Crows, Saints, Suns.

I would have been tempted to leave out the Suns but I think the AFL has set it up for them and it would take astounding ineptitude for them to miss from here after the accumulation of trade, draft and fixturing concessions they have been given over the years and for the year ahead.

I don't think the Suns will play finals this year but will then be a main stay. This will be like the Giants 2015 then a run of 4 finals including a GF appearance

 

[Kiama Chris]

I don't think the Suns will play finals this year but will then be a main stay. This will be like the Giants 2015 then a run of 4 finals including a GF appearance

My feeling too. The cattle are coming together and a new coach and game plan will start to build a better team but finals this year is likely to be a bridge too far but next year very likely.
Those draftees are terrific but they are still draftees.

 

[Callipygian]

I don't think the Suns will play finals this year but will then be a main stay. This will be like the Giants 2015 then a run of 4 finals including a GF appearance

I thought the same as you until I took a closer look at the fixture. They have double ups against both Eagles and North (I think they are the only team with that luxury). That's almost a 4W head start. Also, they get a pretty gentle start to the season and play at home for most of their matches against the top teams.

Those fixturing advantages, together with their list and the new coach bounce, are the reasons I am tipping them to play finals in 2024. They have zero excuses in my opinion.

 

[bedford]

I thought the same as you until I took a closer look at the fixture. They have double ups against both Eagles and North (I think they are the only team with that luxury). That's almost a 4W head start. Also, they get a pretty gentle start to the season and play at home for most of their matches against the top teams.

Those fixturing advantages, together with their list and the new coach bounce, are the reasons I am tipping them to play finals in 2024. They have zero excuses in my opinion.

new coach bounce , what does that mean