List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Draftmas Day

[4tune8]

No idea, the only poster I have on ignore.

Same, but others were talking about his posts, pity those replies can't be filtered too.

 

[HumanMeatball]

If Draper is there do we still pick smillie

 

[4tune8]

If Draper is there do we still pick smillie

Draper every day of the week, but he won't be there

 

[captain cotch 9]

Draper every day of the week, but he won't be there

If North take Taru at 2, Draper or FOS could be there at 6

 

[energyquant]

If Draper is there do we still pick smillie

Draper > Smillie IMHO

 

[THE_GUN]

We can only afford to trade into 2025 once with one pick. We need to Take our other picks are start the rebuild now in this 2024 draft.

Why ?

That just does not make sense
Say we get an offer from North , Eagles , St Kilda , Bombers then why wouldnt we take 2 or even 3 of these offers for our last 3 picks 20,23,24 to get 3 top 10 maybe top 5 picks in 2025

 

[avengers]

Big decision to be made by Tigers.

North all but confirming FOS at 2 unless suitable trade is offered

This leaves Tigs with Lalor and Slow Poke Langford..Dee's taking Smile. Jagga and Draper going to Blues and Crows.

Tigs have 2 choices to avoid this disaster.

Option 1. Pick one of the sure fire speedy mids (FOS, Smith, Draper) and then Langford at 6 can compliment this.

Option 2. Trade 6 and 18 to North and guarantee yourself a dynamic midfield.

You don't give up a chance of the one 2 punch when you only have to give up one pick in the late teens.

P.S anyone coming back to me with "The Tigs will just take Tauru at 6" I say to you "LOL".

This is not a troll but good reliable experienced genuine advice.



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Thanks.

I have screenshotted this and sent it to Blair and the rest of team at Richmond.

They’re very grateful for this

 

[RockJobster0312]

If we end up with say Lalor, Langford, Trainor, Armstrong, a Whitlock and Dodson we're going to suffer for years due to our broken composition, complete absence of outside players, run, kicking ability, etc.

We don't have luxury picks just because we have a big draft hand, because we're like 4 good players short of the second-worst list in the comp.

If only there was a draft next year or the year after that, and/or free agency and trade periods in the future we could use to improve holes in our list.

Seriously though, we need talent. You aren’t going to solve all the list problems with 8x18 year olds regardless of how good our hand is.

 

[59Stanley]

The H.Armstrong - Jeremy Cameron comparison in the Fox article is one of the worst yet

I liken him to a soft version of Fritch

 

[59Stanley]

Draper > Smillie IMHO

yeah and Smillie over FOS

 

[lvt06]

Cam Hicks Final Mock Draft

 

[cairo tiger]

Cam Hicks Final Mock Draft

wont take smith if smilie is there

 

[blaisee]

Wonder if we go Allen at Pick 6, because it means we get one of FOS, Smillie, Draper at 10?

 

[4tune8]

If North take Taru at 2, Draper or FOS could be there at 6

Draper and FOS are ideal fits for the Bloos, Crows and Dees midfields, highly unlikely that either of those 2 slide.

There's been chat that the Crows want to trade up for pick 2 for Jagga, I think that's BS, they want to get in front of the Bloos who would take Draper. If they do trade up then North will take Tauru at 4.

Bloos will take FOS, leaving the Dees a choice of Langford, Jagga or Smillie, meaning 2 of those will be available for us at 6.

If Norf don't trade then they'll take FOS at 2, meaning just 1 of Smillie or Jagga fall to us at 6. It's why most pundits have us taking Smillie as he's the last of the top 7 rated mids that will be available.

 

[Stylo]

You will find Langford is four steps slower than Pendles even at the age of 38. Langford does not possess the game that Pendles does. If you need to remind yourself watch his VFL game with us it nearly killed his draft chances he was miles off the pace.

BS. far from tanked his chances with that performance. I thought he looked quite good all things considered.

Morro agrees:

Harvey Langford (12 disposals, three tackles, two clearances, eight inside-50s)

"It's difficult for a young kid to come in and play in a system that he's not really familiar with, but I thought he had a couple of crucial moments that you could see he was going to be a serious player in time. He led our team with eight inside-50s on the day."

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

BS. far from tanked his chances with that performance. I thought he looked quite good all things considered.

Morro agrees:

Harvey Langford (12 disposals, three tackles, two clearances, eight inside-50s)

"It's difficult for a young kid to come in and play in a system that he's not really familiar with, but I thought he had a couple of crucial moments that you could see he was going to be a serious player in time. He led our team with eight inside-50s on the day."

I would take Langford over smillie in a heartbeat

 

[of unsound mind]

Draper every day of the week, but he won't be there

I’ve got Draper just ahead of Smillie, but with the interest shown by the club, likely Tigers have Smillie higher on the list.
It’s tight, and cards well hidden this year. One or two surprise selections throws open a number of options.

 

[THE_GUN]

Big decision to be made by Tigers.

North all but confirming FOS at 2 unless suitable trade is offered

This leaves Tigs with Lalor and Slow Poke Langford..Dee's taking Smile. Jagga and Draper going to Blues and Crows.

Tigs have 2 choices to avoid this disaster.

Option 1. Pick one of the sure fire speedy mids (FOS, Smith, Draper) and then Langford at 6 can compliment this.

Option 2. Trade 6 and 18 to North and guarantee yourself a dynamic midfield.

You don't give up a chance of the one 2 punch when you only have to give up one pick in the late teens.

P.S anyone coming back to me with "The Tigs will just take Tauru at 6" I say to you "LOL".

This is not a troll but good reliable experienced genuine advice.



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Ok you have convinced me

#10 + #23 for #2

Nah but seriously we are more than happy to take Smillie , Langford , Draper or even Tauru at pick #6
FOS is a nice 15 possession player that will play well alongside WillPhil

 

[Azzleberry]

Foxfooty.com.au predicts how the first round of the draft will pan out, including four rival-club bids, plus the inside word on which prospects your club could take on both nights of the two-day event.

PICK 1: RICHMOND – SAM LALOR

Position: Medium forward/midfielder
Size: 187cm
Clubs: GWV Rebels/Bacchus Marsh
AFL player comparison: Dustin Martin
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 5

A player who’s worn the No. 4 guernsey, idolises Dustin Martin and plays in comparable fashion — a Lalor-Tigers partnership seems like a fairytale. A clean, powerful and physical forward-midfielder with a penetrating kick and strong one-on-one ability, Lalor consistently impacts games forward of centre. He was hampered by foot, quad and hip issues at the start of this season, but returned to the field in the middle of the year with a bang, booting a lazy 7.3 for Geelong Grammar in a school game.

He then kicked 3.1 from 16 touches and three clearances in an eye-catching display for Vic Country against the Allies, before clunking two telling marks against Vic Metro in the carnival final. He also averaged 23.0 disposals, 6.2 clearances, 5.8 marks and 6.0 inside 50s from four Coates Talent League games for the Rebels. His strong showing in the back-end of the year and enormous potential at AFL level now have him at the pointy end of the 2024 pool.

In the mix/trade watch: The popular alternative to Lalor is Finn O’Sullivan, who the Tigers have also been strongly considering. O’Sullivan played a game for the Tigers’ VFL team this year, while Jagga Smith played three games for the same side. Smith had also been in the Pick 1 mix, but is considered the outside chance of the trio.

PICK 7: RICHMOND – JOSH SMILLIE
Position: Midfielder
Size: 194cm
Clubs: Eastern Ranges/Park Orchards
AFL player comparison: Tom Green
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 8

In a midfield-heavy class, Smillie has the height and size advantage over other top 2024 on-ball prospects. He showed glimpses of his powerful best across a solid four-game campaign for Vic Metro, averaging 18.8 disposals, 10.2 contested possessions, 6.8 score involvements 5.8 clearances, although he missed out on All-Australian selection. But those who watched Smillie’s three-goal, 34-disposals Coates Talent League performance against the Lions academy earlier this year said they witnessed a player worthy of a top-end pick, for not only did he show off his power and stoppage craft, but he also showcased explosive running and precise kicking when in space. Due to that excellent ball use, some clubs believe Smillie could start his AFL career across half-back, which is a position he starred in at Under 16s level.

In the mix/trade watch: Despite the Tigers’ long-held interest in Smillie, this looms as a big pivot point of the draft. Smillie for months has been heavily linked to Richmond – specifically at this selection – but there’s a chance he could still be on the board come the Tigers’ next two picks. There’s risk in overlooking SA’s Sid Draper – who some consider a top-five selection – while WA’s Bo Allan – who’s been linked to Richmond’s selections at 10 and 11 but is the emerging wildcard of the top 10 – looks increasingly likely to be gone too, with Melbourne eyeing him. There’s also a chance Xavier Lindsay comes into play, too.

PICK 12: RICHMOND – XAVIER LINDSAY

Position: Midfielder/medium defender
Size: 183cm
Clubs: Gippsland Power/Leongatha
AFL player comparison: Scott Pendlebury
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 15

Perhaps the classiest of the class, as it’s his decision-making, pinpoint ball use, agility and speed that really catch the eye. Recruiters coming into the year liked Lindsay as a half-back, but he showed throughout the year he has improved his inside on-ball game and is reliable across any third of the ground. His ‘Pick Me’ game came for Vic Country against Vic Metro, finishing with 30 disposals, 11 marks, 10 contested possessions, eight score involvements, eight tackles, six inside 50s, six intercepts, four clearances and 585m gained. Overall, he averaged 22.7 disposals, 4.3 clearances and 5.0 tackles in three matches for Country, having missed the Allies match due to injury. Lindsay then became the first Gippsland Power player in a decade to claim the Morrish Medal as the best and fairest player in the Coates Talent League, averaging 23.4 disposals, 5.4 clearances and 5.2 inside 50s across his 12 appearances this season.

In the mix/trade watch: If the Tigers take a key-position player with their other pick, there’s a few midfield/hybrid possibilities for them here. If one of Bo Allan or Tobie Travaglia is still on the board, the Tigers would likely pounce. Another option would be classy, clean midfielder Murphy Reid, who has interest from Richmond with its third and fourth picks and is unlikely to be available at its fifth selection. It’s also the first selection where gun Murray Bushrangers half-forward Joe Berry first enters the draft mix, although it’s more likely the Tigers will be targeting him with their back-end first-rounders.

PICK 14: RICHMOND – HARRY ARMSTRONG

Position: Tall forward
Size: 193cm
Clubs: Sandringham Dragons/Ormond
AFL player comparison: Jeremy Cameron
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 10

Armstrong has come with a rush in 2024, with AFL clubs quickly falling in love with the gun goalkicker. Despite playing just three games for Vic Metro, Armstrong kicked an equal champs-high nine goals — including five in the final against Vic Country — as he showed off his accurate and penetrating left-foot kick, competitiveness in the air and mobility around the ground. Armstrong then took that form back to the Dragons, kicking five four-goal hauls in his final eight matches to finish with 27.10 for the Coates Talent League season. He’s also been dominant at APS level under Matthew Lloyd for Haileybury College across the past two years, including kicking 10 of his side’s 22 goals in a game earlier in the year.

In the mix/trade watch: The expectation for weeks has been that the Tigers will select a key-position prospect with one of their picks outside the top 10. If Armstrong is off the board, there’s a strong chance the Tigers opt for Murray Bushrangers forward-ruck Jack Whitlock – there’s speculation the Tigers could just pick Whitlock over Armstrong if both were available – while Jobe Shanahan and Jonty Faull would be in the mix too. Or the Tigers could go two midfield/hybrids at Picks 10 and 11, with Joe Berry and Murphy Reid good options.

PICK 21: RICHMOND – JESSE DATTOLI

Position: Medium forward/wing
Size: 178cm
Clubs: Northern Knights/Heidelberg
AFL player comparison: Josh Rachele
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 24

There’s been ample intrigue around this Northern Knights product all year, for he’s uber-talented and has match-winner traits written all over him. Dattoli works hard between the arcs and is creative with his ball use. After an injury-interrupted 2023 campaign, Dattoli impressed both at Coates Talent League level and against the best in the national carnival. He kicked 12 goals and averaged 23.1 disposals, 6.1 score involvements and 3.9 clearances for the Knights, while he also had a promising carnival campaign for Vic Metro, booting three goals and averaging 15.2 disposals, 7.2 marks and 6.0 score involvements.

In the mix/trade watch: The Tigers have been linked to an array of forward-half players in this part of the draft. Cooper Hynes and Jasper Alger would be considered if available, but they’d both likely be superseded by Taj Hotton should he remarkably slip through to the back-end of the first round. This is probably where gun Sandringham Dragons medium defender Harry Oliver enters calculations for the first time as well.

PICK 24: RICHMOND – HARRY OLIVER

Position: Medium defender
Size: 181cm
Clubs: Sandringham Dragons/St Bedes-Mentone
AFL player comparison: Luke Hodge
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 28

A composed defender renowned for his competitiveness, decision-making and pinpoint distribution by foot, Oliver has lots of fans at this point in the draft. He made the All-Australian team after averaging 16.2 disposals and going at 82 per cent efficiency by foot for Vic Metro. He can break the lines with his run, carry and kicking, but clubs also love how hard he attacks the ball. If the Tigers want Oliver, they might have to pick him here as the Dragon has been strongly linked to both the Giants and Swans late in the first round.

In the mix/trade watch: Considering there’s just one selection between the Tigers’ Picks 18 and 20 (pre-bids), the draft prospects in their mix – especially those front-half players – don’t change too much here. The Tigers have done their work on Cooper Hynes, so he’d be a real chance here, along with Ollie Hannaford.

PICK 27: RICHMOND – MATT WHITLOCK


Position: Tall utility

Size: 198cm
Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton
AFL player comparison: Sam Taylor
Foxfooty.com.au Draft Power Rankings: 26

While twin brother Jack is slightly taller and, for many, slightly higher rated overall, don’t sleep on the younger — and just as versatile — Whitlock. When his older sibling (by two minutes) was sidelined earlier in the year due to a finger injury, Whitlock was swung from defence into the forward line and had a day out against the Giants Academy team, booting 5.3 from 14 disposals and seven marks. Consistently presenting up at the ball and competing well in the air, Whitlock ended up kicking 27.20 for the Bushrangers playing mainly as a forward, but was named at full-back in the Coates Talent League team of the year. And he was just as impressive in defence for Vic Country, taking on some of the best key forwards in the draft pool. While Whitlock is still lightly built and developing his frame, he’s very athletic — his running vertical jump of 90cm at the draft combine ranked sixth overall — and has shown greater ball-winning ability this year.

In the mix/trade watch: There’s a chance both Cooper Hynes and Harry Oliver are still on the board. But if the Tigers want a tall and Whitlock has already been taken, intercepting defender Luke Trainor – who’s been linked to the Tigers – could be an option. Some also believe the Tigers could use the final pick of the first round to select Sturt’s Alex Dodson, who’s considered the best ruck in this year’s pool.

Gee the way it's being reported here is there's every chance Smillie could be available with pick 10

Saints want outside class and similar with dees but taking a tall as well!

Would be a risky strategy but could be a huge haul if we went Lalor, Draper, Smillie, Armstrong/Whitlock at 1,6,10,11

Is the risk worth it for Draper over Lindsay?

 

[tigerfan1961]

Trainor looks likely to be on the board at our 2nd rounder. You're either going to get an absolute bargain or a complete bust with the concussions with this guy.

I’d take him

 

[JohnnyTiger]

If North take Taru at 2, Draper or FOS could be there at 6

Hey guys, long time Richmond tragic, and have enjoyed the banter and opinions of us supporters. (Mostly)
I love how Richmond have possisioned themselves in this draft and for our comeback, and have seriously changed my mind two times over with everything to do with this draft. Take that guy over that guy, swap picks don't swap pick...we need speed, no we need size... maybe a key forward ....I'm loving it, it's very exciting. But could you please answer the thing that has me wondering
Why didn't we do that. And that is why didn't do Baker and11, for 3? We would now have 1,3,6,10 and most of the end of first picks that we currently hold? From there we could easily do anything we wanted.

 

[GoTigers2015]

 

[Richmond Flats]

Cal saying Bo Allan in the mix for us at pick 6. You’d have to excuse me but I would f***ing melt. down.

I’m on suicide watch. Pray for me.

 

[4tune8]

Cam Hicks Final Mock Draft

The North/Adelaide trade would be on for Draper.

Saints won't trade 7 but a big possibility to trade 8 and wouldn't be surprised to see Lindsay go at that point, I'd happily take him at 6 and lock him away.

The rest of it is a dogs breakfast.

 

[Richmond Flats]

Farkkk, Bo Allan at 6 possibly, according to Twomey.

I hope all the Bo Allan simps are happy. PUKE!