List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

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tigs2010 said:
Just looking at GWS trajectory given 2011 draft is similar to ours but wasn't as good a draft because they'd take the best kids born Jan-Apr already (Cameron, Treloar, Shiela etc)

Following years came last, last, 3rd last, 11th.

After that went PF, PF, SF, GF, 10th, SF, 16th, PF, SF.

Really didn't take long to get out of the doldrums. We will have added advantage of being easier to hold Vic kids and attract FA/trade targets.
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They did follow that up with continuous stupid draft hauls each year though

2012 - 1, 2, 3, 12 & 14 (although they ****ing blew those picks Plowman, O’Rourke, Jaksch and Corr)
2013 - 1, 2 and 14
2014 - 4, 6 & 7

Actually they absolutely massacred those picks, only Kelly and Whitfield 🤣

After that they started getting first round academy picks on top of all the duds they traded to Carlton for first round picks.
 
Coach_Required said:
Yep make them sweat, we really don't need to do anything. We've already got 2 of the best 6 kids, we've got 2 picks if anyone falls unexpectedly and then we've got 4 picks to fill a few structural holes or future trades.

If we go and offer up pick 6, I'll spew that all our good work is slightly undone. We aren't Gold Coast offering picks like candy.

This isn't about helping North get better, we've just lost 4 of our better players in trades. We need to find their replacements.
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and.... 99% surety we have Pick 1 in the bag for 2025 ND also...... so another hopeful (and standout) gun to welcome to Punt Road....
 

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DontArgue4 said:
i expect our trajectory to go like this starting from next season

18th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 18th, 18th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st
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Like an expansion team: Tigers make history on day of sadness, rebirth​

ByJake Niall​


To lose three players, in their primes, during one post-season after a host of decorated veterans have retired, is unusual, but not unprecedented.
But to emerge with eight draft choices inside the top 25 - five of them created by the crisis of losing those key players – is unparalleled in the AFL’s modern model of a draft system.

2025 shapes as a tough year for the Tigers after the departure of several key players, but their draft hand should give fans optimism for the future.

2025 shapes as a tough year for the Tigers after the departure of several key players, but their draft hand should give fans optimism for the future.Credit:Getty Images

On the measure of immediate prospects, Richmond will once again be Struggletown, the name given to the former industrial, working class suburb that gave birth to the Tigers. They will do well to win more than half a dozen games next year or to make finals any earlier than 2027.
On the measure of longer-term prosperity, however, Richmond has absolutely cleaned up.

Their draft haul is comparable to the largesse that was handed to expansion clubs, Gold Coast and GWS, when they entered the competition, with the critical difference that they will be adding these talented draftees to an established, powerful club rather than a fledgling operation.
And while they have a list that has lost Trent Cotchin and most of their triple premiership core, they will be adding those teenagers – callow midfielders, key positions and flankers – to pretty reasonable remnants, such as Tom Lynch, Nick Vlastuin, Nathan Broad, Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jayden Short and Noah Balta, the latter having just signed a seven-year contract extension.

If Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper didn’t sign up for a rebuild of this magnitude, they can now dream that, like Luke Breust, James Sicily and Jack Gunston at Hawthorn, they will see finals again once these youngsters have been together for three full seasons.

So, if Richmond fans lost heart during 2024 – watching the final stages of a crumbling dynasty, as Dusty Martin and Brendon Gale exited and then premiership heroes Daniel Rioli, Liam Baker and Shai Bolton headed home (Perth) or found new digs on the Gold Coast alongside Damien Hardwick – they should begin 2025 with revived spirits.
The path forward is clear. As the club’s head of list management Blair Hartley noted, they have various options for using those prized draft choices, which comprise picks 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24.
Hartley said the Tigers “wouldn’t rule out anything” in terms of trading picks on the night of the draft, or spreading their bets by trading some of this hand into 2025.

Richmond’s general manager of football Blair Hartley will have a prominent role at the national draft.

Richmond’s general manager of football Blair Hartley will have a prominent role at the national draft.Credit:AFL Photos via Getty Images

“Patience is required, but we’re really excited by what’s to come,” he said, adding that this regeneration process at Richmond “will take time, but people understand that.”

As Hawthorn has shown, the Tigers will soon become attractive to free agents and mature players who fit their needs once their youngsters make the great leap forward in development.
In the space of 12 months, Hawthorn went from being derided as irrelevant to a team that attracted Josh Battle and Tom Barrass (who finally got to the Hawks at the buzzer).
Hartley, one of the AFL’s most well-regarded football operators, is not given to outward displays of emotion, and if he played poker his hand wouldn’t be easily discerned from his expression.

But at the conclusion of his media conference, Hartley did show the emotion that had been welling up, pressing against the dam in recent weeks as he and the Tigers dealt with the awful cancer that afflicted their popular recruiting manager Chris Toce.

Hartley ended by paying tribute to “the Toce family” – a reference to the tragic passing of their recruiting boss, who had died on the same day, October 16, that will be remembered as a rebirth of sorts for Richmond.

Toce, who had filled the same role at St Kilda and worked at Collingwood in recruiting, had been coming in to the office to assist Hartley in preparing for what will be the most consequential draft at Richmond since? Take your pick, so to speak, between the 2009 draft when Dustin Martin arrived, the 2007 draft that yielded Cotchin and Alex Rance or the 2006 version that netted Jack Riewoldt and Shane Edwards.
The man who helmed the draft in those seminal seasons, Francis Jackson, had increased his presence with the Tigers to assist Hartley in recent weeks, Toce having remained active in the assessing of talent, coding games right up until a matter of a few weeks ago.

He would, as the Tigers said, have a major mark on the draft of 2024. That draft class – whether it comprises eight or six or seven youngsters from around the country – will define the next phase of the storied Richmond Football Club.
 
Stylo said:
11 + 20 to Crows for 4 + 64

1 Lalor
4 Smith
6 Langford
10 Lindsay
18 Hannaford
23 Faull
24 Gerreyn
64 Dr. Davidson
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that would be a really great core for the next gen. I don't mind Dodson though as a ruck option. 24 probably to early on him though perhaps.
 
Calcium Man said:
They did follow that up with continuous stupid draft hauls each year though

2012 - 1, 2, 3, 12 & 14 (although they ****ing blew those picks Plowman, O’Rourke, Jaksch and Corr)
2013 - 1, 2 and 14
2014 - 4, 6 & 7

Actually they absolutely massacred those picks, only Kelly and Whitfield 🤣

After that they started getting first round academy picks on top of all the duds they traded to Carlton for first round picks.
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Yep saw that. They torched multiple drafts lmao outside of 1 top pick which we will have each year.
 
tigs2010 said:
Yep saw that. They torched multiple drafts lmao outside of 1 top pick which we will have each year.
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Funny looking at the drafts around then, reckon Watts, Patton, Boyd, Mcartin and Schache put the brakes on KPF as top 3 picks unless super special or dominant like JUH/Darcy. Kind of like mid 00s killed rucks as first rounders.
 
KingNorth23 said:
All I can say is Id wish to be in your position with the amount of picks you have in the top 20, happy for you’s would be a good side to watch for next season.

Also speaking about Lalor I think he comes to our club if we go the 6 to 13 instead of 2. Best trade picks in this draft. I think both of our clubs should accept that this is way more exciting than the actual season 🤣🤣
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we dont have 2 we have 6
 

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Can someone explain why we’ve gone off Smith? Absolute ball magnet that makes plays with speed and endurance, similar to a Sam Walsh..

What are his knocks?

I get why we’d want FOS and Lalor, but they’ve had a poor run with injuries, especially Lalor. Surely we don’t need another player that has Hamstrings problems…
 

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