Technically that's right. More accurately it gets us one of FOS and Lalor, and one of the other four.
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List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition
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i just read the title and some some one mentioned it in the tiger cast comments.
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It's not worth reading. Essentially a puff piece on Levi Ashcroft.
We were going to speak to him at the draft combine apparently but he missed it due to shoulder issues.
They claim we want to talk to him in the event that we want to bid on him.
Nothing else interesting.
No chance we bid on Levi with pick 1. Pick 2 (if we have it) possibly, but still unlikely IMO.
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Sounds like an intelligent thing to do ???
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The post above seems panicked.
It’s almost over
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The post above seems panicked.
It’s almost over
We have 8 picks ...............
Im glad your around its more fun when we have visitors around to like our great ideas and variations with all the options we have this draft period.
We should bid on Ashcroft at pick 1 because he should be the highest rated player in this draft. He absolutely dominated the CTL finals and his very similar brother just won a Norm Smith. He is the lowest risk player with the best form.
We stupidly let Brisbane bend us over in the trade for pick 20 but now we have a chance to at least make them pay a fair price in the draft. A bid on Ashcroft at pick 1 almost certainly means they have to trade their future first or risk having it drop to late in the 2nd round when they match the Marshall bid.
On your last comment, I don’t think either Lalor or FOS have a right to expect to be pick 1. I’d be very concerned if a player was upset with not being taken at pick 1. Pick 1’s are notoriously under performers in the scheme of things and I’m not in the business of telling a kid we think you’re a superstar when they haven’t even touched the ball at AFL level. I also don’t care about the money joke for pick 1, if they’re good enough they’ll earn the money by simply being a club champion. That $10k will take about an hour to earn in Richmond merchandise sales once they become one of our stars.
I may be completely wrong but I believe if North bid on Daicos and/or Darcy at pick 1, JHF would still be a North player.
Guess or not, they have too many midfielders so it is unlikely they would draft another at pick 2 with the only exception being Lalor. It could be part of the reason we are keen on Lalor at pick 1. If North know we’ll take Lalor they may be happier to trade out pick 2.
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I just don't see club handing over the value you're expecting for our late R1 picks, which isn't a bad thing as well get quality players in that range. Where we can cash in is the picks in the 6-11 range, but it seems people are too scared to pull the trigger on doing that.There seems to be a lot of very good players available at all of our picks in the 2024 draft. Damn.
So our default position should always be we take the picks this year. Having that default position makes us the house. If someone wants any of those picks, they need to be giving us clear reasons to pass up our favoured player and instead sell them the pick.
Because we are the house, clubs will be coming to us with clear reasons to hand them a valuable pick so they can get a player they really like into their club in 2024. Their are no fair deals here. That moment has passed. We have a virtual monopoly. We are the house. We take our 8 picks at the draft. Or we end up with a position that is clearly better than that. Those are the only two outcomes that should be possible here. Not maybe better, not a good chance to be better, IS better, end of. Don't bitch, don't grumble, don't negotiate. Pay the price we ask or say hello to the door. We are the house.
You really do have an issue with people having an opinion that is different to yours don't you.
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People are assuming North will take a Tall regardless if the keep pick 2. I say no way they would. Thursfield came from our system. Draft for talent, trade for need. Having said that, I really do believe they will trade pick 2. If they get pick 6 they still get best available talent at 6 which will likely be a Tall which they need, then best talent again with their next pick etc. I have no doubt we will come to an agreement with them at some stage. The deal just needs to be fair for both parties.
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North have had issues with the trade for need part for at least a decade.
Should be easier once they start to climb the ladder but without KPP it just hasn't looked like happening.
I have never said what I expect clubs to offer for any pick. Just that if a club really wants a pick desperately and is prepared to pay up big - we are the house.
Not to mention draft for talent and trade for need is a perfect world strategy for list management. Teams are studying the US sports codes for list building and adopting more complex strategies beyond creating logjams of talent.
I could imagine both Kingsley and Goodwin would come across pretty full on and serious , not sure that’s my impression of ooze, not sure what conclusion your trying to drawView attachment 2152900
So is Yze not switched on or did he not interview Jagga?
Cheese platters and ‘serious’ coach chats as Dusty question stumps star: Inside AFL draft interviews
Cheese platters and ‘weird’ questions that leave prospects ‘stunned’: Inside AFL draft chatswww.foxsports.com.au
The difference is high quality players will always choose a big Melbourne club over north. This means they can’t have the same strategy as Richmond. They need to draft for certain positions as even free agents go elsewhere for less than what north offer.
No conclusion… just tongue in cheek that it mentions 3 coaches and goes on to infer that Jagga only praised 2… at least that’s how the editing read as he is never quoted any saying actual names.
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They may entice quality if they were a contender for a flag, but they are a fair way from that.
Spot on!
Very difficult to draft for high quality needs when there's normally just 2 top end picks available ie; 1st & 2nd round. Makes you resort to trading for needs.
The Tigers list management team is breaking the mold for how to access that top end talent through the draft by stockpiling picks into those drafts that are strong thereby allowing them to draft more on a positional need. We saw it first in 2021 where we had 5 picks inside 30, last year saw us trade picks into this year and whether by luck, circumstance or good planning (probably a combination) we've now got 8 picks inside the top 24.
With such a plethora of first round picks we now have the luxury of drafting for talent and drafting for needs.
Ideally:
3 of the best mids with our first 3 picks: Lalor, FOS, Smillie
2 of the best small, high half forwards: Hotton & Berry
2 Defensive wingers but with excellent kicking skills who can also have a strong attacking presence: Lindsay & Oliver
1 Ruck/Forward: Thinking Gerreyn or Sims
If the deal is 6&11 for 2&F1 then absolutely we should do that... its a steal!
We are not trading out in that scenario, we're moving 1 pick to next years draft and getting both picks upgraded as compensation in doing so.
Net result is same amount of picks used in a 2 year period.
6&18 for 2 is the one I'd be hesitant on...
6&11 for 2&F1 works well for them.
6 all but guarantees Tauru
11 you'll get a choice of Armstrong (could be gone), Shanahan or Trainor (who was top5 before concussion).
If they went 2 and traded with GWS for 15 using their F1, then only maybe Shanahan is available at that second pick and you're in the next run of talls (whitlocks etc)
