List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

[Noidnadroj]

Also is Lalor deciding to go play cricket if it gets too hard and the Hammys don’t hold up a worry, especially being a number one pick?

The de goey comparison is a concern more than a postive in my mind.
Lalor is on the heavy side for a mid and de goey can hardly stay on the park for a big portion of his career.
Blokes like petracca are one in a thousand and his work off the track is second to none.
Is Lalor that commited? Will it be easier to fall back to another sport if his body doesn’t hold up?

Petracca was not a dedicated training freak early on in his career… he took a few years to embrace all required to be a star. Remember he barely played midfield for the first 4-5 years of his career.


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[Drunken Wookie]

Welcome Jagga

 

[Sir_Loin]

Who knew my logical and efficient style would have y'all flicking yer beans in anticipation.

 

[Rich01]

Sorry, I meant to say 24.

First pick of the second round. Which is what some clubs specifically want.

What are they looking to appease north with?
Wouldn’t 10/11 suffice?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

What are they looking to appease north with?
Wouldn’t 10/11 suffice?

This I don’t know, I’m only really getting info from the Port side of the fence.

 

[Rich01]

This I don’t know, I’m only really getting info from the Port side of the fence.

I see some good players at these picks. I’m not sure it’s worth it.
But a trade should be fair for both sides.

Surely with 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 there’s a mix that makes it work alone.

Confused why other clubs need to get involved.

 

[THE_GUN]

This I don’t know, I’m only really getting info from the Port side of the fence.

Do you have any inclination of what or how this #10 ties in with #13 + #29 ?
And if GWS supposedly knocked back #3 for #15 + #16 is correct then that just doesnt make sense on how these 3 clubs are dealing

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Richmond don’t want to deal pick 6 or 24 in any trades.

Edit.

Makes sense

 

[THE THIN MAN]

This I don’t know, I’m only really getting info from the Port side of the fence.

 

[db26]

Richmond don’t want to deal pick 6 or 24 in any trades.

Edit.

24 is the first pick the second night worth gold gets us another first round in 2025 and a late pick.

 

[Ctl]

This I don’t know, I’m only really getting info from the Port side of the fence.

something that clubs are motivated to get done before nov 8th or just a discussion and throwing about some hypotheticals etc?

 

[Muddiemoose]

Don’t really see the hype around whatever pick happens to be the first of the 2nd round

Every year it talked up like it has more value but if clubs are just basing the player they draft off the rankings they have been doing the work on for the past 2 - 3 years it’s not like the rankings should shift

And all picks are open to be traded if a player slides anyway it’s just this one has a longer period to negotiate to secure the pick

 

[RobsJourney]

Don’t really see the hype around whatever pick happens to be the first of the 2nd round

Every year it talked up like it has more value but if clubs are just basing the player they draft off the rankings they have been doing the work on for the past 2 - 3 years it’s not like the rankings should shift

And all picks are open to be traded if a player slides anyway it’s just this one has a longer period to negotiate to secure the pick

It’s probably about trading into 2025. A team sees X player is still available and really want him, so they trade into 24 with their 2025 1st. To us that could be pick 18, still an upgrade, or a top 5 pick if we’re lucky!

 

[richoatthedisco]

Don’t really see the hype around whatever pick happens to be the first of the 2nd round

Every year it talked up like it has more value but if clubs are just basing the player they draft off the rankings they have been doing the work on for the past 2 - 3 years it’s not like the rankings should shift

And all picks are open to be traded if a player slides anyway it’s just this one has a longer period to negotiate to secure the pick

It gives 24 hours to canvas and work out a live trade, as opposed to five minutes.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Richmond don’t want to deal pick 6 or 24 in any trades.

Edit.

Is this “deal” actually progressing at all? Or still ongoing negotiations with Port and the other clubs you’ve mentioned?

 

[KrispyKreme]

Is this “deal” actually progressing at all? Or still ongoing negotiations with Port and the other clubs you’ve mentioned?

I guess we still have a week don’t we. I wonder if it will stall now Richmond won’t trade picks 6 & 24

 

[Muddiemoose]

It gives 24 hours to canvas and work out a live trade, as opposed to five minutes.

I get that in theory but in practice and I could be mistaken but that pick has never actually been traded live

I know live trading is relatively new but if it was such a big deal like it’s made out to be surely it would of been done at least once by now

Kinda just seems like we are attaching extra value to it for something that doesn’t happen

 

[LTT]

Probably in the rookie draft if we have any spots left

Should have picked him in the msd, we had a spot available. Would only require a contract extension now instead of a draft pick. He would be the perfect replacement for Kmac. The fact we have now kept Kmac is not a good sign for Davidson. Keeping Kmac does my head in. Just doesn’t make sense.

 

[richoatthedisco]

I get that in theory but in practice and I could be mistaken but that pick has never actually been traded live

I know live trading is relatively new but if it was such a big deal like it’s made out to be surely it would of been done at least once by now

Kinda just seems like we are attaching extra value to it for something that doesn’t happen

"We" including the several clubs coveting it.

Hoe long has there been live pick trading? When did they split the draft into two nights?

It doesn't just give the club holding it more time to do a deal, it also allows them a full day to reflect and compare who's still available, weigh up offers and play teams off against each other.

Just because it hasn't been traded yet doesn't mean there weren't good offers for it. Likely to be even more so in this draft.

 

[Muddiemoose]

"We" including the several clubs coveting it.

Hoe long has there been live pick trading? When did they split the draft into two nights?

It doesn't just give the club holding it more time to do a deal, it also allows them a full day to reflect and compare who's still available, weigh up offers and play teams off against each other.

Just because it hasn't been traded yet doesn't mean there weren't good offers for it. Likely to be even more so in this draft.

But are we and several clubs actually converting it or have the media and fans just assuming that we are

Not saying it’s not the case but I would like to see more evidence to conclusively say it holds some extra value in the eyes of the clubs

& if it does have more value is it even tangible in terms of a trade or would it just gain similar to any other live pick in a trade anyway

If we are just talking picks I would still prefer to have pick 23 this year over 24 because it gives us an extra player that is available to pick from

Like we have both alluded to it’s still very early days in terms of both live trading and the two night draft so it will be interesting if this is the year we actually see something happen with it

 

[THE_GUN]

Is this “deal” actually progressing at all? Or still ongoing negotiations with Port and the other clubs you’ve mentioned?

They are all having KFC

But its a Tax write off

 

[THE_GUN]

I get that in theory but in practice and I could be mistaken but that pick has never actually been traded live

I know live trading is relatively new but if it was such a big deal like it’s made out to be surely it would of been done at least once by now

Kinda just seems like we are attaching extra value to it for something that doesn’t happen

You are looking at it the wrong way


Its Pick #1 just on another day

 

[richoplzbreed]

"We" including the several clubs coveting it.

Hoe long has there been live pick trading? When did they split the draft into two nights?

It doesn't just give the club holding it more time to do a deal, it also allows them a full day to reflect and compare who's still available, weigh up offers and play teams off against each other.

Just because it hasn't been traded yet doesn't mean there weren't good offers for it. Likely to be even more so in this draft.

You're spot on. I remember the 2021 draft Freo had the 1st pick of the 2nd round. We offered a ridiculous haul of pick scenarios as we had the Banks, Clarke, Sonsie picks. We were knocked back as were about 4 or 5 teams and can't remember the team who offered the best hand but it was mind boggling what they were prepared to pay. Matthew Johnson was always touted as about pick 10 and I remember the commentators saying that club rated him as top 5 and were in love with him and desperate for him. Being a WA kid Freo wanted him bad themselves so took him.

As it stands who knows if we'll swap picks but can easily see us landing 4/ 5/ 6 of the exact players we want early. Every team has different wants and needs and recruiters have their own favourites. If a club rates a kid in the top 10 in a position they need filled and he's still there overnight. Imagine what a club with a closing premiership window with a coach desperate for another contract in a highly rated draft is willing to overspend to trump the other clubs fighting for that same pick. The price will already be steep, then the 24 hour (as opposed to 3 + 3 mins) bidding war will push it off the charts. Bring it on!

 

[Muddiemoose]

You're spot on. I remember the 2021 draft Freo had the 1st pick of the 2nd round. We offered a ridiculous haul of pick scenarios as we had the Banks, Clarke, Sonsie picks. We were knocked back as were about 4 or 5 teams and can't remember the team who offered the best hand but it was mind boggling what they were prepared to pay. Matthew Johnson was always touted as about pick 10 and I remember the commentators saying that club rated him as top 5 and were in love with him and desperate for him. Being a WA kid Freo wanted him bad themselves so took him.

As it stands who knows if we'll swap picks but can easily see us landing 4/ 5/ 6 of the exact players we want early. Every team has different wants and needs and recruiters have their own favourites. If a club rates a kid in the top 10 in a position they need filled and he's still there overnight. Imagine what a club with a closing premiership window with a coach desperate for another contract in a highly rated draft is willing to overspend to trump the other clubs fighting for that same pick. The price will already be steep, then the 24 hour (as opposed to 3 + 3 mins) bidding war will push it off the charts. Bring it on!

Wonder who we were desperately after cause it’s certainly not the most impressive list


Edit:
Re read the post that specifically mentions Johnson

 

[Mr Magic]

Wonder who we were desperately after cause it’s certainly not the most impressive listView attachment 2156817

I thought we could have got Mathew Johnson when he slide but decided to trade back?

means little now


I have a feeling GWS are looking for different type of players. Is this why they did not wish to trade up for 3?

Different coach might be eying others with 15, 16 and 21