List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

[Muddiemoose]

I thought we could have got Mathew Johnson when he slide but decided to trade back?

means little now

Sounds familiar

Would be cool if clubs would release stuff like draft rankings or whatever 10 years after the draft with notes just to see what the process behind decisions

We get the odd tidbit now and than but seeing the actual notes would a eliminate some of the confirmation bias that I think gets thrown around

 

[richoplzbreed]

Also is Lalor deciding to go play cricket if it gets too hard and the Hammys don’t hold up a worry, especially being a number one pick?

The de goey comparison is a concern more than a postive in my mind.
Lalor is on the heavy side for a mid and de goey can hardly stay on the park for a big portion of his career.
Blokes like petracca are one in a thousand and his work off the track is second to none.
Is Lalor that commited? Will it be easier to fall back to another sport if his body doesn’t hold up?

Zero chance to play cricket. He's rated top 1 - 3 in this draft. Even if he's injury prone and his body is slow to adjust and turns out a complete bust he's guaranteed minimum 6 - 8 years on an AFL list earning minimum $3mil +

Guaranteed his manager and junior coaches would've sat down with him and his family as a 16yo and shown him his earning potential for AFL and Cricket then the % of actually making it as one of 800 AFL players vs one of 15 - 20 test cricketers and 100 big Bash players. Ask any Victorian kid would you rather play in front of 80k+ at the G several times a year or 300 off duty taxi drivers and its a no brainer. You see it all the time in USA for kids who excel at NBA/ NFL they get shown there's 2000 NFL players as opposed 200 (USA) NBA players.

Degoey comparison is only because Dusty, Petracca, Ricciuto, Degoey are rare powerful explosive mids who are scoring weapons. Not because he's a scumbag degenerate by nature. You're forgetting Fatracca looked like a fat lazy bust his 1st few seasons as a bloke who got tired in the midfield and was primarily hf.

 

[Groupie_]

hello ladies dinners on

 

[richoplzbreed]

Wonder who we were desperately after cause it’s certainly not the most impressive listView attachment 2156817

Matthew Johnson. He was rated about pick 10 and slid to 21. This year the top 45 is deep. Every team has different needs. Bulldogs are stacked with 200cm kp. Brisbane are stacked with small fwds and need KPF to replace Daniher. There's always a couple of sliders. Luke Trainor was rated top 5 before all the concussion concerns. Wouldn't be surprised if he slides or someone like a Reid, Travaglia, Shanahan, Hotton, Berry. Guaranteed there will be players that teams for sure dreamt of landing but figured they'd go at pick 10 ish. When they realise they're still available and within their grasp they won't be thinking alright let's offer the equivalent of Pick 24, they'll be thinking we rated him at 10 in a super draft sell the farm to get him.

Especially when Hartley laughs at their 1st offer and says the bummers offer was x + y + z? don't bother calling back unless your offer is superior. Then when it is they can call bummers and go sorry blah blah team offered x + y + z + d? Bummers can either miss out or offer x + y + z + a? Get a few clubs fighting over it with 24 hours and probably will get far superior offers for pick 24 than we did for pick 18 as 24 hours of Fomo is cha thing for us. Or we could be like Freo and go htf is Armstrong/ Reid/ Berry etc? still there let's just take him ourselves.

This year differs to last year as last years 1st round went to pick 29 and depth plummeted after pick 15 any way so no sliders they were already gone. So the 1st pick of round 2 was worth Jack then

 

[Michaels]

Xavier Lindsay could be the most well rounded player in the draft.

A few have mentioned he is one they see playing 200 games.

Lots to like!

 

[Muddiemoose]

Xavier Lindsay could be the most well rounded player in the draft.

A few have mentioned he is one they see playing 200 games.

Lots to like!

Mum always told me to never trust a man with two first names so unfortunately I think we should pass

 

[Coach_Required]

really?

It makes sense to me for GWS to go with 3 kids on cost controlled contracts. They have lots of high end talent, a tight salary cap and right in their window.

pretty sure GWS have a few list places so will look to increase their number of picks not decrease.
It's why I don't reckon they would be interested in pick 7 or 8 in this draft unless they are getting a second pick back, not sure saints pick 32 cuts it

 

[Groupie_]

Mum always told me to never trust a man with two first names so unfortunately I think we should pass

also never been a player with name xavier thats been good

flog name for toff families

 

[sanaya]

also never been a player with name xavier thats been good

flog name for toff families

what about xavier duursma

 

[bartlettsbaldpatch]

What about that Dustin Martin fella? Two first names I believe.

 

[richoplzbreed]

also never been a player with name xavier thats been good

flog name for toff families

Even better are the braindead bogans who pronounce it EX- Avier. My stepdaughters early birthday party invites/ Christmas cards were always difficult trying to spell their names right. 20 odd kids and maybe 10% were obvious how to spell. And when did Mckenzie/ Mackenzie/ Mackenzy become a bloody 1st name with 3 ways to spell. And that was Moonee Ponds, even worse in other areas like Hoppers where parents are inventing names like Dakoda lol

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Even better are the braindead bogans who pronounce it EX- Avier. My stepdaughters early birthday party invites/ Christmas cards were always difficult trying to spell their names right. 20 odd kids and maybe 10% were obvious how to spell. And when did Mckenzie/ Mackenzie/ Mackenzy become a bloody 1st name with 3 ways to spell. And that was Moonee Ponds, even worse in other areas like Hoppers where parents are inventing names like Dakoda lol

No worries, thanks Darren.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

what about xavier duursma




















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who actually made that gif? the trajectory and realistic physics on the cup is way beyond bf standard

 

[THE_GUN]

pretty sure GWS have a few list places so will look to increase their number of picks not decrease.
It's why I don't reckon they would be interested in pick 7 or 8 in this draft unless they are getting a second pick back, not sure saints pick 32 cuts it

GWS have 1 Priority on their board Taj Hotton

 

[Jim Irwins Heart]

Wonder who we were desperately after cause it’s certainly not the most impressive listView attachment 2156817


Edit:
Re read the post that specifically mentions Johnson

Connor MacDonald plays in a different universe to Sonsie

 

[TigerTime88]

Richmond don’t want to deal pick 6 or 24 in any trades.

Edit.

Interesting as I've been told 24 is 100% being shopped for a future first and my source is rock solid. That was about two weeks ago however.

 

[THE_GUN]

Connor MacDonald plays in a different universe to Sonsie

Or Maybe Connor McDonald is being played to his strengths and Sonsie is being played in a position that Richmond wants him to fit into ?

 

[tigs2010]

Interesting as I've been told 24 is 100% being shopped for a future first and my source is rock solid. That was about two weeks ago however.

They probably want to do it after first night though.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Or Maybe Connor McDonald is being played to his strengths and Sonsie is being played in a position that Richmond wants him to fit into ?

Perhaps Sonsie will be a real good country footballer?

 

[energyquant]

Even better are the braindead bogans who pronounce it EX- Avier. My stepdaughters early birthday party invites/ Christmas cards were always difficult trying to spell their names right. 20 odd kids and maybe 10% were obvious how to spell. And when did Mckenzie/ Mackenzie/ Mackenzy become a bloody 1st name with 3 ways to spell. And that was Moonee Ponds, even worse in other areas like Hoppers where parents are inventing names like Dakoda lol

Quality rant. Dakoda

 

[Ctl]

Interesting as I've been told 24 is 100% being shopped for a future first and my source is rock solid. That was about two weeks ago however.

Could be that we want to deal 24 for a 1st round pick outright and not have it caught up in other deals

 

[Ctl]

Bored so did a mock draft, probably way off the money. A lot of players in the 30's that should probably be a bit higher, probably a testament to the depth

Drafted by		Pos	Name	State	Academy/FS
Richmond	1	Mid	Sam Lalor	VIC
Brisbane	2	Mid	Levi Ashcroft	VIC	Brisbane
North Melbourne	3	Mid	Finn O’Sullivan	VIC
Carlton	4	Mid	Harvey Langford	VIC
Adelaide Crows	5	Mid	Sid Draper	SA
Gold Coast	6	Mid	Leonardo Lombard	QLD	Gold Coast
Melbourne	7	Mid	Josh Smillie	VIC
Richmond	8	Mid	Jagga Smith	VIC
St Kilda	9	Mid	Murphy Reid	VIC
St Kilda	10	KPD	Alixzander Tauru	VIC
Melbourne	11	KF	Harry Armstrong	VIC
Essendon	12	SF	Isaac Kako	VIC	Essendon
Richmond	13	Mid	Taj Hotton	VIC
Richmond	14	SF	Joe Berry	VIC
West Coast	15	Mid	Bo Allen	WA
Port Adelaide	16	Mid	Tobie Travaglia	VIC
Fremantle	17	Fwd	Oliver Hannaford	VIC
GWS	18	KF	Jobe Shanahan	NSW
GWS	19	Mid	Xavier Lindsay	VIC
Brisbane	20	Mid	Sam Marshall	QLD	Brisbane
Western Bulldogs	21	Mid	Jesse Datolli	VIC
Richmond	22	KF	Jack Whitlock	VIC
Sydney Swans	23	Fwd	Cooper Hynes	VIC
Richmond	24	Def	Harrison Oliver	VIC
GWS	25	Def	Lachie Jaques	VIC
Sydney Swans	26	Def	Luke Trainor	VIC
Richmond	27	KF	Thomas Sims	VIC
Richmond	28	Ruck	Alex Dodson	SA
Western Bulldogs	29	Fwd	Jasper Alger	VIC
West Coast	30	KPF	Kayle Gerreyn	WA
Carlton	31	Mid	Lucas Camporeale	SA	Carlton
Port Adelaide	32	KP	Matt Whitlock	VIC
Fremantle	33	Mid	Christian Moraes	VIC
St Kilda	34	KF	Jonty Faull	VIC
Hawthorn	35	KPD	Noah Mraz	VIC
Western Bulldogs	36	KD	Harry O’Farrel	VIC
Port Adelaide	37	Mid	Tom Gross	VIC
Adelaide	38	MF	Tyler Welsh	SA	Crows
GWS	39	Fwd	Josh Murphy	NSW
GWS	40	Ruck	Logan Smith	NSW	Giants
Carlton	41	Mid	Xavier Ivisic	VIC
Sydney	42	Mid	Luke Urquhart	WA

 

[THE_GUN]

Perhaps Sonsie will be a real good country footballer?

Isaac Smith was a good country footballer

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Isaac Smith was a good country footballer

Sonsie is too small , too slow and not good at anything.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Mum always told me to never trust a man with two first names so unfortunately I think we should pass

She wasn't a big Dustin Martin fan then