List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

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Didn't watch yet lol

Thought when you gave the wow reaction that you had.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

From what your hearing is Lalor a lock at 1?

I’m not across that sorry. Media reports would indicate that he is.

I agree with you. I just cannot work out what the deal outcome will be by including Port and GWS in the negotiations for pick 2. Surely has to include 6, but C4[2]Yo`DooR has said 6 & 24 are off the table. And what benefit will be there for each club, as none of the clubs will want to give up too much for what they are getting?
Can’t see us getting 2 unless 6 is involved, unless future picks are going to be accepted by one or some of the clubs involved, and I’d think that’s unlikely given this is a deep and reportedly good draft.
Involving the other clubs is strange for me, because if we ultimately agree to give up 6, we would surely just offer 6, and say 18 directly to North? Bit to play out yet I guess

FWIW I haven’t heard anything since and my last update (via Port) is that it’s made increasingly difficult because of 6 and 24 not being on offer.

Could mean it’s dead? Could be angling for another club to get involved? I’ll keep you posted.

 

[tigs2010]

Thought when you gave the wow reaction that you had.

Wow'd what he wrote trading Smillie for 2 x F1's.

 

[THE_GUN]

yeah, but North will not accept it

Tell them to get stuffed then and take Tauru at pick #2 and come back begging us to take their F1

 

[Mr Magic]

Tell them to get stuffed then and take Tauru at pick #2 and come back begging us to take their F1

agree


RFC needs to stand firm.

enough is enough and I think other clubs feel RFC is a wallflower so they attempt to *******e us everytime

6 and 10 or 11 for 2 is ****ing outrageous

we could have got pick 3 and forced North to select who they want at 2

 

[THE_GUN]

Any team looking to move Future 1st rounders need to come and lick Blair's a ss

NorF either relents on their dream about what they get for #2 or keeps their F1

 

[of unsound mind]

5-10 is a slide Bro.

You have a very strange definition of a slide. It’s the range he’s been slated for some time.
Oct Power rankings:
Cal Twomey ranked 8, previous month 7
Rookie Me Central 7, previous month 8
ESPN 10, previous month 7

For good measure, throw in FoxSports @8 and Dylan Alexander @7

 

[Mr Anderson]

I've known this guy since our kids went to childcare, kindie and primary school together. Used to be really close, drifted since different high schools. He's a straight shooter and I've wiped the floor with him at cards plenty of times. He even said their night is basically Camporeales and they're hoping it goes their way for their 1st pick but pretty happy with the evenness of the top handful but wasn't giving anything away. Once their pick 3 is selected their draft is basically over waiting for bids and he had no ulterior motive to bull me.

Hey it's all a crap shoot. Nobody knew Fyfe, Bont, Cripps would turn out having the careers they had. Who knows which teams get most focussed on and ignored by our recruiters. Wasn't long ago it seemed we'd basically only take kids from Northern Knights, St Pats, WA team? Ellis and Menadue flops from Western Jets ruled them out. We started taking Oakleigh kids. Always wondered if our recruiters bother watching Geelong Falcons as they're top 3 for most kids drafted and don't think we've ever taken any?

I've had a similar relationship with a Blues club recruiter - this sounds legit opinion to me. Even the recruiters don't always know who the club will actually draft, but they all have a good handle on the strengths and weaknesses of the potential picks, and they usually call it like they see it.

I remember my mate being really keen on Caleb Marchbank in the 2014 draft and being really pissed when the Blues traded the #7 pick away to GWS because he know they wouldn't get him (he was happy when they got him as damaged goods a few years later) He also told me he wouldn't touch a certain 2015 high draft pick from country Victoria as he didn't believe he had the mental makeup to have a long career (which he sort of got half right) - they're not infallible, but they have a much better idea than us punters.

 

[Groupie_]

does dylan alexander post in here ?

 

[4tune8]

Like a lot of mock drafts, they have us trading out a lot of our picks, the Essendon one is probably the most outrageous

Of the 3 scenarios he put up for pick trades I think that the GWS and Saints one is most likely and it's interesting that the reason for doing it is to target Lindsay, I reckon this kid could well be one of the top performers out of the whole pool.

6 & 18 isn't a chance of happening and it's more his North bias coming in to play here. He has Smillie sliding a lot but we would have to be odds on to take him at 6, if North are locked out of splitting 6 then they're a good chance of taking Tauru at 2, it was good enough for GWS to target Cadman, so chances are that North will pull the trigger. If they do then Jagga and Smillie are the most likely to be available, reckon we'd still take Smillie but you never know.

The Saints, after their move with GWS might then take Jagga, then the Dees come into play and Bo Allan does look like a good fit for them after taking Langford.

Now up to us, with all the high end mids off the board I doubt that the Dons would want to get in, so our pick is live as is the next pick, there's a whole raft of options here as we have the choice of the best of the next tier and I really don't know who Hartley would have in mind, but I'm sure that whoever is taken with those 2 picks will be the next highest on the board.

Essendon's best chance of getting back in the first round might be the Saints if the mooted GWS trade goes ahead.

 

[Mr Magic]

Like a lot of mock drafts, they have us trading out a lot of our picks, the Essendon one is probably the most outrageous

Of the 3 scenarios he put up for pick trades I think that the GWS and Saints one is most likely and it's interesting that the reason for doing it is to target Lindsay, I reckon this kid could well be one of the top performers out of the whole pool.

6 & 18 isn't a chance of happening and it's more his North bias coming in to play here. He has Smillie sliding a lot but we would have to be odds on to take him at 6, if North are locked out of splitting 6 then they're a good chance of taking Tauru at 2, it was good enough for GWS to target Cadman, so chances are that North will pull the trigger. If they do then Jagga and Smillie are the most likely to be available, reckon we'd still take Smillie but you never know.

The Saints, after their move with GWS might then take Jagga, then the Dees come into play and Bo Allan does look like a good fit for them after taking Langford.

Now up to us, with all the high end mids off the board I doubt that the Dons would want to get in, so our pick is live as is the next pick, there's a whole raft of options here as we have the choice of the best of the next tier and I really don't know who Hartley would have in mind, but I'm sure that whoever is taken with those 2 picks will be the next highest on the board.

Essendon's best chance of getting back in the first round might be the Saints if the mooted GWS trade goes ahead.

so why are we not trading up for a Saints pick???

why are those at RFC so reactive?

 

[KrispyKreme]

Just spoke to a mate who speaks to Lalor and Finn. They both really want to play together put it that way. Know means squat overall but man would they be deadly.

 

[TigerRoar2012]

Nothing to do with his height. Lachie Neale is shorter but has core and hip strength to break tackles.
The question is whether Jagga can put on the size and strength to apply defensive pressure to others and stand up or maintain balance when physical pressure is applied to him and reaches him far more often than in juniors.
Other prospects have different questions on them. Depends on how you weigh the risks.

He has the same physique as Zac Butters in his draft year. He turned out alright.

Jagga hasn’t had a single preseason at a professional club and people are questioning whether he’d put on the size required to play afl football? Seems a bit unfair, and that’s ignoring the fact that he has already played against men in the VFL and still dominated. If you watch his interviews you’d see how professional he is - I have zero doubt he’d put in the work to be a star at the next level.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Richmond swap pick 10 to Port for 13 & 29
Richmond swap picks 11 & 23 to GWS for 15 & 16
Richmond swap picks 13 & 15 to Roos for pick 2 (remember Carlton got pick 3 for 12 & 14 reckon we can offer North something similar and if that isn't enough throw in pick 29)
Richmond go to the draft with picks 1, 2, 6, 16, 18, 20 & 24.

So in a very deep and even draft we’ve traded 10, 11 and 23 for 2 and 16.

No thanks.


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[TigerRoar2012]

If we can do 1, 2, and 6 then get lalor, FOS and Jagga that would be amazing. 3 lower isk, high return players who could be a fantastic midfield for a decade +. After that it is building a solid squad around them

That’s my dream scenario for this draft: Lalor/FOS/Jagga. Midfield set for next 10 years and get to learn under stars like Taranto

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Just spoke to a mate who speaks to Lalor and Finn. They both really want to play together put it that way. Know means squat overall but man would they be deadly.

I’m still on this train. Even if it’s costs us Pick 6

Give me Lalor and FOS

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[TigerPaul71]

tigs2010 what did you think about the last pick in that video?

bull###t were not doing that!!

 

[TigerRoar2012]

I’m not across that sorry. Media reports would indicate that he is.



FWIW I haven’t heard anything since and my last update (via Port) is that it’s made increasingly difficult because of 6 and 24 not being on offer.

Could mean it’s dead? Could be angling for another club to get involved? I’ll keep you posted.

I wouldn’t be surprised if no trade eventuates. I just don’t see Richmond parting with 6 nor north accepting 10 + 11. Just doesn’t seem like a trade benefits either club - especially if the rumours are true that Jagga could slip to 6..

 

[Lord of the Wings]

I dont get his theory that GWS will trade 15+16 for 7 and then pick Lindsay. There's a good chance he's there at 15.

Lindsay long gone by 15

 

[tunksy]

Lalor fos and jagga at 1 2 and 6 would be a steal doubt it happens

 

[prodigy]

I’m still on this train. Even if it’s costs us Pick 6

Give me Lalor and FOS

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I always knew you were a smart and thoughtful person!

 

[Mr Magic]

you have heard it from me before s upid the letter missing is t

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

the world has passed some by, meanwhile back at the ranch

so must like repeating computer loops and get groundhog day kicks

when you are always off the back foot it sets you up to be attacked and played regularly even if you dodge a few bullets here and there

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Lalor fos and jagga at 1 2 and 6 would be a steal doubt it happens

Carlton will take whoever is left out of FOS/Smith at 3.

 

[prodigy]

Carlton will take whoever is left out of FOS/Smith at 3.

Interesting. As a Carlton fan yourself, do you think Smith is a good fit? Feels like he is very similar to Walsh. Thought you'd want a more dynamic/explosive type.

 

[Mr Magic]

Carlton will take whoever is left out of FOS/Smith at 3.

our big move was getting pick 20!!!

whoopie!!

pick 3?? nah, we want pick 20 even if North do not