List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

[db26]

What's the knock on Smillie besides endurance ?. How did he test.

 

[Mr Magic]

What's the knock on Smillie besides endurance ?. How did he test.

if we get him with pick 10 or 11 it will be less risky as what we forgo will be less

 

[sawyer]

Not out of the realms and I feel like it’s probably what we ultimately want. I would say Allen is our Smillie back-up plan at 10, and J.Whitlock is our backup plan to Armstrong.

Tigers FOS @1
North Tauru @2
Carlton Draper @3
Crows Jagga @4
Melbourne Langford @5
Tigers Lalor @6
Saints Allen @7
Saints Reid @8
Melbourne Armstrong @9
Tigers Smillie @10
Tigers J.Whitlock @11

If we take FOS st kilda will instantly make a trade for norths pick 2 and take Lalor


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[THE_GUN]

worth a punt if scans are clear, know plenty of people my age that got regularly ko'd in the juniors. its not a death sentence.

But its an end of Football career sentence

New rules coming that place obligation on the AFL are the issue

How many concussions have you had ? or been KO'd ?

 

[prodigy]

Not wrong, but I think your fixation on getting FOS is clouding your view on the draft. In an ideal world landing Lalor & FOS at 1 & 2 would be great if they're clearly ranked the 2 best players in the pool.

For mine, FOS alone isn't as good as 1 of Draper Langford Smith Smillie Reid and 1 of Armstrong Travaglia Tauru Trainor Allan Shanahan Hotton Lindsay Whitlocks Dodson Berry Faull and the like that we'd lose by trading out one of the picks from 10-20, that North would want to give up 2

It's not about FOS.
1 and 2 gives us the option to get the top two players we have on our draft board.
We need top end talent, I don't like gambling in our position.

Forgot about the idea that I want FOS. What I want is completely irrelevant.
I think the club is better served having access to the top 2 draft prospects in the nation rather than speculating at players late in the first round.

 

[db26]

At pick 6 where in the box seat either Smith Langford or Tauru there hard decision

At 10 and 11 still best available Smillie, Lindsay , Reid.

On Bo Allan is his disposal a issue

 

[of unsound mind]

no its been made up many times by these "CTL watchers" (bigfooty posters)

CTL stats don’t provide contested marks. There could be some other data source, but pretty sure it’s BS.
Here’s Smillie’s CTL stats for the year.

 

[baazzaa]

1 and 2 gives us the option to get the top two players we have on our draft board.
We need top end talent, I don't like gambling in our position.

When there's half a dozen potential pick 1s it means even pick 1 is a gamble.

Best way of reducing risk isn't moving up the board, but not putting all your eggs in one basket when none of the baskets are sure-things.

 

[THE_GUN]

What's the knock on Smillie besides endurance ?. How did he test.

Whats wrong with his endurance ?
looks perfectly fine to me

 

[BKM78]

They still rate Lalor as the player we will pick and probably the highest upside

“Lalor is now on the verge of becoming the AFL's newest No. 1 pick. It will be a selection made with upside in mind - the brutish country midfielder has an array of weapons that could help him become the best player in the game. Lalor is freakishly strong through the hips and breaks out of tackles with a casual flick, but also loves to use his strength defensively by laying crunching tackles and bumps. His most impressive traits lie forward of the ball, where he's a nightmare to defend one-on-one with his strength, power off the mark and strong hands. The yellow and black No. 4 guernsey will soon have a new owner at Punt Road”

SOLD. Gee I hope we can find a way to pair this weapon with FOS or Jagga. Faaaark

My quick attempt. Sorry if it upsets any 'experts'.

1. Lalor (Rich)
2. Tauru (Norf)
3. Ashcroft (Brisbane) bid
4. Draper (Blues)
5. FOS (Crows)
6. Langford (Dees)
7. Smith (Rich)
8. Reid (Aints)
9. Lombard (GC) bid
10. Smillie (Aints)
11. Lindsay (Dees)
12. Allan (Tigers)
13. J. Whitlock (Tigers)
14. Berry (WC)
15. Kako (Bummers) bid
16. Armstrong (Port)
17. Travaglia (Freo)
18. Shanahan (GWS)
19. Oliver (GWS)
20. Lindsay (Dogs)
21. Hotton (Rich)
22. Trainor (Swans)
23. Dattoli (Rich)
24. Hannaford (GWS)
25. Hynes (Swans)
26. Faull (Rich)

Draper FOS need to be flipped. Crows balls deep in Draper, surely.

 

[sanaya]

If on draft night we can trade 10+18 for 2 because North think Armstrong or Tauru might be there then let’s ride. Doubt they will though.

Lalor FOS Smillie Whitlock + pick up the scraps in the 20s

norf waiting on twomey's phantom & late mail before trading

 

[tiger_tough]

SOLD. Gee I hope we can find a way to pair this weapon with FOS or Jagga. Faaaark

Draper FOS need to be flipped. Crows balls deep in Draper, surely.

Apparently blues are keen on Draper....

 

[of unsound mind]

I can’t work out why Smillie is sliding from 8 to 10 in this espn draft?

Says he has potential to be best in class but slots him behind Lindsay and Travaglia? Not like either has a better season than Smillie, averaged 25 and a goal at Coates, and was captain and probably best player of 2 afl academy vs vfl games, the other 2 had better champs, his were just okay.

Writes it off as difference between what he is and what he might be are too far apart?? Even if he doesn’t reach that ceiling he’s already starting from a higher base than Lindsay or Travaglia with way higher scope.

It’s just strange how as Smillie has become the odd man out in this draft. I wonder if he’d had a crack at vfl he would be in contention for 1.

Had a run with nagging injuries, a head knock and illness around the time of the champs and just after when some played VFL. Players with consistent form gone ahead in some ratings, but recruiters who have keen interest will know and weigh up that background.

 

[sanaya]

What's the knock on Smillie besides endurance ?. How did he test.

the top tier mids that tested were around 6:24-6:39 for their 2km time with smillie being 6:38


an outlier of those times was travaglia at 6:13

 

[prodigy]

When there's half a dozen potential pick 1s it means even pick 1 is a gamble.

Best way of reducing risk isn't moving up the board, but not putting all your eggs in one basket when none of the baskets are sure-things.

I get what you're saying but the club has been tracking these players for years. I feel like they have a clear understanding of who the best two players are in the draft that we have access to.

 

[Morro]

C4[2]Yo`DooR mentioned crows met with Lalor again today.

Maybe he isnt locked in at no1 afterall???

 

[Drunken Wookie]

But its an end of Football career sentence

New rules coming that place obligation on the AFL are the issue

How many concussions have you had ? or been KO'd ?

weird question but playing footy at least 3 in juniors. took the freekick 2 of those times, the other got walked off and dont remember shit. not saying its not an issue but fmd hes 18 are we saying he cant play footy ever again because the risks too high? how long has boxing been a sport? mma is quite popular still.

 

[prodigy]

C4[2]Yo`DooR mentioned crows met with Lalor again today.

Maybe he isnt locked in at no1 afterall???

#FOSoclock

 

[_RT_]

It's not about FOS.
1 and 2 gives us the option to get the top two players we have on our draft board.
We need top end talent, I don't like gambling in our position.

Forgot about the idea that I want FOS. What I want is completely irrelevant.
I think the club is better served having access to the top 2 draft prospects in the nation rather than speculating at players late in the first round.

At what cost though?

The suggestion that started this discussion was trading out 6 & 18/20/23 for 2. We give up 2 top 20 talents for 1 that is only marginally better than the player we'd get at 6 and is even lesser value when combined with the 2nd player we'd lose access to at the later pick that will more likely than not be addressing an area of need like KPP/Ruck/Outside Mid/Small Forward

 

[Sol23]

Richmond 1- sam lalor
N.melbourne 2 - Finn O'Sullivan
Brisbane 3 - Levi Ashcroft
Carlton 4- syd Draper
Adelaide 5- Josh Smillie
Melbourne 6- harvey Langford
Richmond 7- Alex tauru
Gold Coast 8- leo Lombard
Saint Kilda 9'-jagga Smith
Saint Kilda 10- Toby Travaglia
Essendon 11- Isaac kakko
Melbourne 12- harry armstrong
Richmond 13- joe Berry
Richmond 14- Xavier Lindsay
West coast 15- bo Allan
Port power 16- l.trainor
Fremantle 17- t.hotton
Gws giants 18- c hynes
Gws giants 19 -m.reid
Bulldogs 20- j dattoli
Richmond 21 trade to Saint Kilda for future first and pick 32
Saint Kilda 21- jonty faull
Sydney 22- m. Whitlock
Richmond 23- j.whitlock
gws giants 24- j. Shanahan
Sydney 25- h.oliver
Pick 26 Richmond trade to Adelaide for future first
Adelaide 26- a Dodson
Richmond 27- o hannaford
Bulldogs 28- j alger
West coast 29- k.gerryn
Port power- 30- a Clarke
Fremantle 31- Hamish Davis
Richmond 32- James barrat
-------------------------------------------------
In summary
Richmond get
1'- sam lalor
7- Alex tauru
13- joe Berry
14- Xavier Lindsay
23' - j whitlock
27- o hannaford
32- James barrat

There is no chance Reid is going at that number…: have you even bothered to do any research.

 

[THE_GUN]

weird question but playing footy at least 3 in juniors. took the freekick 2 of those times, the other got walked off and dont remember shit. not saying its not an issue but fmd hes 18 are we saying he cant play footy ever again because the risks too high? how long has boxing been a sport? mma is quite popular still.

You really dont get it do you ?

Its not about if he can still play footy its about will he be allowed to play if he cops another 3 concussions in the next 3-4-5 years. The rules are changing and the AFL will only get harder on these issue's

Brayshaw can still play footy but it gets to a point where liability is way too much of a risk
I see this as the biggest concern with Trainor

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

C4[2]Yo`DooR mentioned crows met with Lalor again today.

Maybe he isnt locked in at no1 afterall???

I think they are getting more proactive in the hopes that they work a deal for pick 2.

 

[Calcium Man]

Because they say he's a gamble, "But he doesn't move around the ground well enough right now to be a midfielder and needs to use his height to advantage in the air. What Smillie is, and what he could become, are too far apart to be confident he reaches his ceiling."

So he’s saying the guy who played midfield all year doesn’t move like a midfielder??

By putting Lindsay and Travaglia ahead of them is he saying despite them only hoping to move into midfield they move better?

It’s strange that with no new form or information the espn guy has dropped a smillie behind Lindsay and Travaglia for such a flimsy reason especially with plenty of evidence of Smillie playing midfield.

 

[Morro]

I think they are getting more proactive in the hopes that they work a deal for pick 2.

Makes sense, although there are still some reports where lalor slides.

 

[tiger_tough]

#FOSoclock