List Mgmt. 2024 Draft/Trade/FA Thread – Pick 9, and big fishes Tom Campbell and Harry Sharp in 🎣🐟, ANB departs to the Crows for Pick 28 😢

[Scythe94]

Confirmed outs:

• Alex Neal-Bullen (Traded to Adelaide)
• Angus Brayshaw (Retired)
• Ben Brown (Retired)
• Lachie Hunter (Retired)
• Adam Tomlinson (Delisted)
• Josh Schache (Delisted)
• Kyah Farris-White (Delisted)
• Future First (Traded to Essendon)
• Future Third (Traded to Adelaide)
• Picks 40, 54, 65 (Traded to Essendon)
• Pick 49 (Traded to Brisbane)

Confirmed ins:

• Tom Campbell (Free Agent from St Kilda)
• Pick 9 (Traded from Essendon)
• Harry Sharp (Traded from Brisbane)
• Future Third (Traded from Brisbane)

On-traded:

• Pick 28 (from Adelaide, to Essendon)
• Pick 46 (from Adelaide, to Essendon)
• Future Third (from Essendon, to Brisbane)

 

[dazzledavey36]

It’s to late now but why didn’t we try get Loyd Meek in the Jackson trade and last year we should have chased Chol he would have been a better 2nd ruck/foward option than petty and roo. So I guess we will chase some other donkey that won’t get a game and give schache a 2 year extension.

Because Tom Fullarton.. duh..

 

[markm106]

Not replacing Grundy with even a VFL type player who could just compete is a big stuff up. No doubt Gawn would have rested properly if we had someone. Although he is probably gonna try play no matter what.

 

[Lord Nev]

Not replacing Grundy with even a VFL type player who could just compete is a big stuff up. No doubt Gawn would have rested properly if we had someone. Although he is probably gonna try play no matter what.

This is not what the last 3 years would suggest though.

 

[Crusty Demon]

It’s to late now but why didn’t we try get Loyd Meek in the Jackson trade and last year we should have chased Chol he would have been a better 2nd ruck/foward option than petty and roo. So I guess we will chase some other donkey that won’t get a game and give schache a 2 year extension.

Ask Tim Lamb mate. The Meek one was an obvious one. Chol maybe as well, but hearing about his lack of competitiveness and poor training methods might have scared us off. Hawks have nailed it with those two. Turned them into important players. Man they are fun to watch. Can't believe I'm saying a team with Ginni and The Wizard are an enjoyment to watch, but they are irresistible atm.

 

[markm106]

This is not what the last 3 years would suggest though.

Yeah that’s why I said what I did in the next line. He just wants to play every week no matter what. Also Goody has a habit of playing players into the ground.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Hawthorn's spine consists of Sam Frost

8

Sam Frost

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

191.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

191.6

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

, Jack Scrimshaw

14

Jack Scrimshaw

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

200.7

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

167.0

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

155.6

3star

, Calsher Dear and Mabior Chol

18

Mabior Chol

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

with Meek as ruck. Yeah, it's all about needing that million dollar key forward hey! Sam Mitchell can clearly coach. Goody can't beat half decent teams with a 6x AA ruckman and Steve May and Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

as the defensive spine. The way Hawthorn move the ball is electric and attacking. They have fantastic ball users which going forward simply has to be a priority for this football club. Probably a big part of the reason why Houston is on our radar. I hope the Hawks do some damage from here on in.

 

[markm106]

Ask Tim Lamb mate. The Meek one was an obvious one. Chol maybe as well, but hearing about his lack of competitiveness and poor training methods might have scared us off. Hawks have nailed it with those two. Turned them into important players. Man they are fun to watch. Can't believe I'm saying a team with Ginni and The Wizard are an enjoyment to watch, but they are irresistible atm.

Re Chol, I think there’s definitely questions about his competitiveness. Especially when the chips are down. Also don’t think he offers a heap in the ruck. Similar HTA rate to JVR. And not near as much of a competitor as JVR in general.

 

[TheBoss]

It’s to late now but why didn’t we try get Loyd Meek in the Jackson trade and last year we should have chased Chol he would have been a better 2nd ruck/foward option than petty and roo. So I guess we will chase some other donkey that won’t get a game and give schache a 2 year extension.

All things being equal, no one wants to do the 1 hour drive to Casey Fields a couple of times per week if they have other options on the table.

 

[markm106]

All things being equal, no one wants to do the 1 hour drive to Casey Fields a couple of times per week if they have other options on the table.

Except for the players who have chosen Melbourne.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Re Chol, I think there’s definitely questions about his competitiveness. Especially when the chips are down. Also don’t think he offers a heap in the ruck. Similar HTA rate to JVR. And not near as much of a competitor as JVR in general.

This whole notion that every single player on our list needs to be a competitor is actually ridiculous.

Chols lack of competitiveness has him currently sitting on 29 goals for the year even after he's missed 2 games this year. On that form alone he would be sitting 2nd behind another another non competitor in Bayley Fritsch.

Forget competitiveness, the guy clearly has talent and sometimes talent can easily override that. We missed an opportunity unfortunately.

 

[TheBoss]

Except for the players who have chosen Melbourne.

Yeah - players who had no other options on the table.

Billings. Hunter. Schache. McAdam.

Should I go on?

And the ones that had other options (Lever, Langdon, Preuss) got paid well in excess of their value on the open market.

 

[Topkent]

This whole notion that every single player on our list needs to be a competitor is actually ridiculous.

Chols lack of competitiveness has him currently sitting on 29 goals for the year even after he's missed 2 games this year. On that form alone he would be sitting 2nd behind another another non competitor in Bayley Fritsch.

Forget competitiveness, the guy clearly has talent and sometimes talent can easily override that. We missed an opportunity unfortunately.

Much better forward than Disco, that was a huge blunder

 

[markm106]

This whole notion that every single player on our list needs to be a competitor is actually ridiculous.

Chols lack of competitiveness has him currently sitting on 29 goals for the year even after he's missed 2 games this year. On that form alone he would be sitting 2nd behind another another non competitor in Bayley Fritsch.

Forget competitiveness, the guy clearly has talent and sometimes talent can easily override that. We missed an opportunity unfortunately.

Yeah that’s fair. It’s just the knock on him. Typical whipping boy type especially if he was at the dees and we were losing. No doubt would be in our team.

 

[markm106]

Yeah - players who had no other options on the table.

Billings. Hunter. Schache. McAdam.

Should I go on?

And the ones that had other options (Lever, Langdon, Preuss) got paid well in excess of their value on the open market.

So there were players who chose Melbourne. Add Steven May to that list.

 

[markm106]

I still hold some hope for McAdam. More next year if he can get his body right over the pre season. Has talent but always injured. Billings I had some hope for but don’t think I want to see him in the side again. I think only one more year on his contract.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

This whole notion that every single player on our list needs to be a competitor is actually ridiculous.

Chols lack of competitiveness has him currently sitting on 29 goals for the year even after he's missed 2 games this year. On that form alone he would be sitting 2nd behind another another non competitor in Bayley Fritsch.

Forget competitiveness, the guy clearly has talent and sometimes talent can easily override that. We missed an opportunity unfortunately.

Nothing annoys me more than people swallowing Goodwin propaganda. You need a mix of guys who bring different things to the table. We should absolutely be going after Peter Wright if hes fallen out of favour at Essendon, but probably not enough of a competitor for Melbourne.

 

[markm106]

Nothing annoys me more than people swallowing Goodwin propaganda. You need a mix of guys who bring different things to the table. We should absolutely be going after Peter Wright if hes fallen out of favour at Essendon, but probably not enough of a competitor for Melbourne.

I reckon there is something to be said for key forwards and lacking mongrel. Schache was dominant as a junior. So was Jack Watts. They just lack the killer instinct. King boys could be headed that way too. Particularly Max. Chol plays a very laconic game and probably seems to lack the competitiveness due to that also. Don’t mind Peter Wright. Would be happy if we could get him. Has had a few fitness issues this year. So assume Essendon aren’t letting him go.

 

[Topkent]

I reckon there is something to be said for key forwards and lacking mongrel. Schache was dominant as a junior. So was Jack Watts. They just lack the killer instinct. King boys could be headed that way too. Particularly Max. Chol plays a very laconic game and probably seems to lack the competitiveness due to that also. Don’t mind Peter Wright. Would be happy if we could get him. Has had a few fitness issues this year. So assume Essendon aren’t letting him go.

You're acting like Chol just sits in the goalsquare to wrestle. That's not what he does, Chols a second tall who uses athleticism who cost a 3rd rounder no one's saying give up pick 8 for him

 

[Demon 16]

How many years did we sign McAdam?

Please don’t tell me it was four years?..

 

[markm106]

You're acting like Chol just sits in the goalsquare to wrestle. That's not what he does, Chols a second tall who uses athleticism who cost a 3rd rounder no one's saying give up pick 8 for him

How am I acting like that? He’d lose those battles. It’s not his go. Was a bargain for that price and not saying I wouldn’t want him. Was just stating what been said about him. And my observation.

 

[markm106]

How many years did we sign McAdam?

Please don’t tell me it was four years?..

3 I believe.

 

[Topkent]

How am I acting like that? He’d lose those battles. It’s not his go. Was a bargain for that price and not saying I wouldn’t want him. Was just stating what been said about him. And my observation.

Bailey Fritsch isn't a physical player either so we shouldn't have taken him either?

I prefer physical key forwards but the game is 90% delivery and setup these days there's no physical key forwards actually left.

 

[dazzledavey36]

I reckon there is something to be said for key forwards and lacking mongrel. Schache was dominant as a junior. So was Jack Watts. They just lack the killer instinct. King boys could be headed that way too. Particularly Max. Chol plays a very laconic game and probably seems to lack the competitiveness due to that also. Don’t mind Peter Wright. Would be happy if we could get him. Has had a few fitness issues this year. So assume Essendon aren’t letting him go.

Funny enough Jack Watts would slot in beautiful into our forward mix.

 

[TheBoss]

How many years did we sign McAdam?

Please don’t tell me it was four years?..

3 years.

He quit on Adelaide after being offered 2 years. Tim Lamb got to swoop in and do his absolute favourite thing in the world - offering players contracts longer than what they deserve!

 

[Crusty Demon]

I still hold some hope for McAdam. More next year if he can get his body right over the pre season. Has talent but always injured. Billings I had some hope for but don’t think I want to see him in the side again. I think only one more year on his contract.

McAdam had an interrupted preseason. Never really got going. Decent preseason and we'll see if he's going to be a bust or not. Was expecting more from him.