List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

M Malice · 2024-09-20T12:05:33+1000

McIvor said:
AFL Draft: New No. 1 as finals bolters shake up order

There's a new No. 1 in town as a certified young star reclaims his mantle as the top draft prospect, while there are several new faces who have emerged in ESPN's draft board for September.

www.espn.com.au

Would be a great result for us wouldn’t it if Ashcroft fell to #3 and Marshall #28?

James Barrat comes in at 30, looks like we are not going to jag him late Crusha

Section 5 · 2024-09-20T16:03:01+1000

McIvor said:
AFL Draft: New No. 1 as finals bolters shake up order

There's a new No. 1 in town as a certified young star reclaims his mantle as the top draft prospect, while there are several new faces who have emerged in ESPN's draft board for September.

www.espn.com.au

Would be a great result for us wouldn’t it if Ashcroft fell to #3 and Marshall #28?

The first five are all smallish mids.
Not all clubs in draft positions 1-8 draft night will want smallish mids.
Hopefully Levi drops all the way to 5, I can only hope.

ESPN have Smillie a 194cm mid at 10.
Rookie Me Central have him at 4 but that was August

briztoon · 2024-09-20T16:26:39+1000

Section 5 said:
The first five are all smallish mids.
Not all clubs in draft positions 1-8 draft night will want smallish mids.
Hopefully Levi drops all the way to 5, I can only hope.

ESPN have Smillie a 194cm mid at 10.
Rookie Me Central have him at 4 but that was August

Lalor will go top 3.

He’s this year’s late season bolter. (He’s not really a bolter though)

dlanod · 2024-09-20T18:41:34+1000

briztoon said:
Lalor will go top 3.

He’s this year’s late season bolter. (He’s not really a bolter though)

Best leadership credentials in Vic Country since Peter.

Section 5 · 2024-09-20T20:30:22+1000

briztoon said:
Lalor will go top 3.

He’s this year’s late season bolter. (He’s not really a bolter though)

I have not seen anyone play or even their clips except clips of Levi. After the GF i will take more of an interest.
That was what i was trying to say is on that list and Rookie Me Central list there's quite a few small mids in the top 5 or so.
Laylor listed as mid/fwd and 187cm and Smillie 194cm mid
It is possible that clubs may want a bigger mid then the ones presently listed at the top 5.
I am just hoping that is the case and Levi falls to the 4-5 pick

briztoon · 2024-09-20T21:39:59+1000

Section 5 said:
I have not seen anyone play or even their clips except clips of Levi. After the GF i will take more of an interest.
That was what i was trying to say is on that list and Rookie Me Central list there's quite a few small mids in the top 5 or so.
Laylor listed as mid/fwd and 187cm and Smillie 194cm mid
It is possible that clubs may want a bigger mid then the ones presently listed at the top 5.
I am just hoping that is the case and Levi falls to the 4-5 pick

My top 3 are Sid Draper, Lalor and Levi. Not sold on Smillie at senior level, he's not a Tom Green type of big mid.

Dalions · 2024-09-20T21:46:00+1000

briztoon said:
My top 3 are Sid Draper, Lalor and Levi. Not sold on Smillie at senior level, he's not a Tom Green type of big mid.

Reminded me a bit more of a Nat Fyfe type.
Or could develop into a similar type of player, but may kick goals better than Fyfe.

briztoon · 2024-09-20T21:55:50+1000

Dalions said:
Reminded me a bit more of a Nat Fyfe type.
Or could develop into a similar type of player, but may kick goals better than Fyfe.

Lalor or Smillie?

Smillie is much more like Mundie.

Perrip · 2024-09-21T11:03:56+1000

The draft change adding another element to upcoming trade frenzy

Clubs with exciting Academy and father-son prospects for 2025 will be working through two different draft points models this Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period as they prepare for next year.

Section 5 · 2024-09-21T11:18:36+1000

OLD MODEL

Nathan Barley · 2024-09-21T11:30:58+1000

Am I an idiot or does this not matter?

Because if the pick you need to match is worth less it doesn’t matter that the later picks aren’t as valuable?

Looks like the biggest difference is in the later picks; picks 33+34+35+36+37 no longer equals pick 1

briztoon · 2024-09-21T11:34:48+1000

Nathan Barley said:
Am I an idiot or does this not matter?

Because if the pick you need to match is worth less it doesn’t matter that the later picks aren’t as valuable?

Looks like the biggest difference is in the later picks; picks 33+34+35+36+37 no longer equals pick 1

It 100% matters if you have multiple kids to match, like Gold Coast, Brisbane & Sydney all have for next years draft.

Teams will prioritise the best kid, and weigh up if it’s worth trading future picks for points to match on multiple kids, especially if they have more kids the following year.

Nathan Barley · 2024-09-21T11:42:25+1000

briztoon said:
It 100% matters if you have multiple kids to match, like Gold Coast, Brisbane & Sydney all have for next years draft.

Teams will prioritise the best kid, and weigh up if it’s worth trading future picks for points to match on multiple kids, especially if they have more kids the following year.

Which is probably fair in the rare case these clubs have more than 2 in the top 20-30

mpal6 · 2024-09-21T11:48:07+1000

If they open up 2 years of future pick trading, the impact may be levelled out a bit. All clubs will be in gambling mode when trading 2 years ahead, no idea where any club would finish.

Nathan Barley · 2024-09-21T11:48:32+1000

So we would’ve needed something like 4 picks inside the top 25 to match Ashcroft and Fletcher?

Nathan Barley · 2024-09-21T11:49:20+1000

Could also encourage clubs to hide academy or father son picks more

Section 5 · 2024-09-21T11:58:01+1000

Nathan Barley said:
Am I an idiot or does this not matter?

Because if the pick you need to match is worth less it doesn’t matter that the later picks aren’t as valuable?

Looks like the biggest difference is in the later picks; picks 33+34+35+36+37 no longer equals pick 1

I am not smart enough to look at the whole picture.
Just going on the sticky at the top of the thread using Lions & Tigers

Brisbane Lions have: Picks 15 - 53 - 69 worth 1394 points.
Using New model, it would be 973 + 28 = 1001 points

Richmond old model total points 5986
Under new model the total is only 4074

briztoon · 2024-09-21T12:01:47+1000

Nathan Barley said:
Could also encourage clubs to hide academy or father son picks more

There’s matching criteria for the Northern clubs, some of which is tied to kids having to play for the Allies team for us to get priority access to match in the National draft.

briztoon · 2024-09-21T12:05:04+1000

Section 5 said:
I am not smart enough to look at the whole picture.
Just going on the sticky at the top of the thread using Lions & Tigers

Brisbane Lions have: Picks 15 - 53 - 69 worth 1394 points.
Using New model, it would be 973 + 28 = 1001 points

Richmond old model total points 5986
Under new model the total is only 4074

Big picture is to make it harder to match very top end kids and/or to match multiple good kids.

Haven’t read the article yet, but does it mention if the AFL is keeping the 20% discount or if it’s going?

Bucking Beads · 2024-09-21T12:05:07+1000

I think father/son selections should be free. Leave the bidding for academy kids imo.

briztoon · 2024-09-21T12:06:43+1000

Nathan Barley said:
Which is probably fair in the rare case these clubs have more than 2 in the top 20-30

I’m not sure it’s going to be that rare going forward.

Nathan Barley · 2024-09-21T12:08:23+1000

briztoon said:
I’m not sure it’s going to be that rare going forward.

Then they'll probably ease the matching requirements again because more clubs are benefiting from the academy and its more even

KissKiss · 2024-09-21T12:11:21+1000

Section 5 said:
The first five are all smallish mids.
Not all clubs in draft positions 1-8 draft night will want smallish mids.
Hopefully Levi drops all the way to 5, I can only hope.

ESPN have Smillie a 194cm mid at 10.
Rookie Me Central have him at 4 but that was August

All depends on trades of course, but you'd expect at least 1 or 2 clubs will pull a trigger on a key position player or at least a tall mid.

I can't see North wanting another small mid for example. They desperately need some other types

KissKiss · 2024-09-21T12:13:16+1000

briztoon said:
Big picture is to make it harder to match very top end kids and/or to match multiple good kids.

Haven’t read the article yet, but does it mention if the AFL is keeping the 20% discount or if it’s going?

I don't expect them to keep the discount. Seems like it might be one of the key aspects to lose to appease other clubs

Nathan Barley · 2024-09-21T12:16:27+1000

KissKiss said:
I don't expect them to keep the discount. Seems like it might be one of the key aspects to lose to appease other clubs

I think that would be the end of the academies

Syd v PA Post-Match + Club Forums »

NFL Week 3 🏈 NCAA Week 4

NRL Finals week 2 🏉 Sharks v NQ 🏉 Roosters v Manly

Singapore Grand Prix - 2024 - Race Weekend

List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

Hammelmann Appreciation Society

Hall of Famer

Norm Smith Medallist

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Moderator

Norm Smith Medallist

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Premium Platinum

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Team Captain

Norm Smith Medallist

Brownlow Medallist

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Brownlow Medallist

Norm Smith Medallist

Brownlow Medallist

Brownlow Medallist

Norm Smith Medallist

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Brownlow Medallist

Wannabe Draft Nuffie

Brownlow Medallist

Norm Smith Medallist

Norm Smith Medallist

Brownlow Medallist

List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

Similar threads

Log In or Create New Account