List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

[Jivlain]

 

[blueiris]

Just a thought I heard we can trade our future 1st if we received a future 2nd and target someone like Jack Whitlock Jobe Shanahan obviously we would have to wait until after the Sam Marshall bid

 

[dlanod]

Just a thought I heard we can trade our future 1st if we received a future 2nd and target someone like Jack Whitlock Jobe Shanahan obviously we would have to wait until after the Sam Marshall bid

Are they better or worse than Annable next year, because that kind of trade makes it very hard to get points to match him under the new system.

 

[blueiris]

Not sure but are the key forwards any better next season and would they be available later in the draft Clubs will have the ability to trade future picks two years in advance from next season Annable is our first round pick next season what's our Academy like form 2026 is it worth trading our future 1st 2026 pick to take the Key forwards this draft

 

[irel]

Not sure but are the key forwards any better next season and would they be available later in the draft Clubs will have the ability to trade future picks two years in advance from next season Annable is our first round pick next season what's our Academy like form 2026 is it worth trading our future 1st 2026 pick to take the Key forwards this draft

According to the trade draft board 2026 is looking the best year for talent the academy has ever had. So on that premise trading future firsts is probably not a good idea.

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[briztoon]

According to the trade draft board 2026 is looking the best year for talent the academy has ever had. So on that premise trading future firsts is probably not a good idea.

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I don’t know about that just yet.

‘25 and ‘26 look about the same to me.

The difference is, all our top end talent from this year is going around again as 19 year olds next year in the academy.

Going to make next year’s draft very interesting if more than a couple of our overagers have Keidean Coleman type years.

 

[Perrip]

Draft Intel: Calls For Tigers To Bid On Ashcroft At No. 1

Levi Ashcroft’s coach says the Brisbane Lions father-son prospect is “undoubtedly” the best player in this year’s draft, urging Richmond to place a bid on him with the No. 1 pick.
Rob Harding — a former Essendon assistant who has coached Ashcroft through the Sandringham Dragons and Vic Metro the past two years — said players should be recognised as the best talent in the draft pool regardless of their ties to clubs.
“If you put aside Levi for a second, it’s a broader thing about making sure that players who are Academy or father-son are recognised rightly for their position in the draft order,” Harding told this column.
“The draft order is not universal, but we’ve got a case here where I think the vast, vast majority of people see Levi as being the No. 1 pick, and if it was an open pool, he’d be a clear pick one. So I think it’s important that these players are recognised for all the hard work that they put in.”
“We’ve seen it in recent years with players like Nick Dacos and Will Ashcroft not going at pick one,” Harding said.
“They deserve that recognition and I’ve seen Levi up close for the last two years and I’ve coached a number of players in this pool and I’ve coached against a number of players in this pool. Speaking to clubs and recruiters as well, he’s clearly pick one.
“I’d like to see him recognised for that and I really hope Richmond do the right thing and bid on him. I think it’s important for the integrity of the draft that academy and father-son players are bid on where they should be bid on.”

 

[Dalions]

Draft Intel: Calls For Tigers To Bid On Ashcroft At No. 1

Let’s Hope common sense prevails and Richmond ignore calls for them to bid on him at one.

 

[mpal6]

Are they better or worse than Annable next year, because that kind of trade makes it very hard to get points to match him under the new system.

I wonder if we can we use our 2026 first next year to match Annable and keep it rolling forward.

 

[briztoon]

I wonder if we can we use our 2026 first next year to match Annable and keep it rolling forward.

Yes, but all future draft picks count as the last pick in the round from a points perspective, at the time the bid is made.

 

[dlanod]

Yes, but all future draft picks count as the last pick in the round from a points perspective, at the time the bid is made.

You get more value by trading them forward, and there's usually someone willing to do it.

 

[irel]

The closer we come to the Tasmanian entree in draft terms the more valuable first round picks will become.

Tasmania will be gifted a lot of first rounders in the first two years of them coming into the league. Just like GWS and The Suns were.

No team will want to finish in the bottom half, so leveraging their hand for high end picks in the drafts prior will be the modus operandi.

If we play the long game we will extract lots more value. So this year take our two Lashcroft and Marshal and one of our tall academy kids and wait for more rorts to fall our way in the coming drafts.

I don't see this fascination with drafting for the sake of it. We know that our list management is more strategic than that.

Nek minit Ambrogio trades our future first.



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[Perrip]

The AFL draft is just weeks away. Here’s where the top-40 prospects could land

Ashcroft (2): "The industry consensus is that North Melbourne or Carlton, rather than Richmond, will bid on Ashcroft, who some recruiters rate as the best-performed player this year."
Marshall

Marshall (22): "Brisbane Lions match Sydney's bid."

 

[twhowler]

No more than a vibe.

Suspect the tigers will stitch us up and go with pick 1. If not definitely round 2.

I can see Marshall slipping a bit. I don't think people will go early on him as there are a lot of late bloomers in this year's draft, and they will know there is a risk we will not match, especially if we are short on points with Aschroft going at 1.

 

[Gadzorks]

Imagine if was Saints with first pick. They'd go Levi then Marshall then whoever they really wanted just to 'make a point'.

We probably couldn't match so they'd get a player whose dreams they'd ruined and who they would invested two years into before the did a go home move.

 

[p4p1]

Imagine if was Saints with first pick. They'd go Levi then Marshall then whoever they really wanted just to 'make a point'.

We probably couldn't match so they'd get a player whose dreams they'd ruined and who they would invested two years into before the did a go home move.

I don't think I put this in this thread, it may have been another thread but in F/S and academy situations involving high profile/elite kids, other than spite there isn't much in it for clubs to make a pick knowing the club with rights cannot match the bid. The AFL wants to be seen by the fans making sure that clubs aren't making 'side deals' but realistically they don't care IMO. They know better than most how clubs are run, how the community interacts with each other etc.
Imagine if you are Levi Ashcroft and get bid on at #1 and the Lions, not expecting to win the premiership could not match the points. How happy do you think he would be to go to North? These are kids that know they are going to play AFL, kids taken later in the draft are going to be happy to have the opportunity when they weren't 100% certain if they were going to be drafted. It would be a terrible way for a club to start a relationship with a new recruit, it would mean Brisbane in this case would probably be very difficult and unforgiving when dealing with North in the future etc. Other than having a potentially elite player who could be better or worse as the #2 guy, which we never know until almost a decade into the future nothing positive would come of it.

 

[Nuggo]

Weird, I know what our pressies are but still want Christmas to come early

 

[Johnny Bananas]

just for the record again, I totally agree with the existence of academies and think the Lions (and the other 3 northern clubs should have exclusive access to their zones)

I just don't agree with shipping a kid off to Victoria, to be part of CTL and have almost no academy exposure at all, and retaining the exclusive access. I see the point that Clarky is making, but all it does is perpetuate the backwards thinking that footy in QLD is 2nd rate.

I suppose one issue is, most Brisbane private schools don't offer Australian rules football scholarships, and it's hard for a kid and their parents to turn down a scholarship to a school as prestigious as Melbourne Grammar. If more Sam Marshalls get offered interstate scholarships, then it would strip all the best talent from the academy. Without exclusive access, the cream of Queensland talent would go into the regular draft, and Brisbane would end up just trying to turn lesser talent into AFL-standard players.

Now maybe Melbourne clubs would consider that more fair, but this removes a lot of the incentive for Brisbane to invest strongly in the academy. This again comes back to the AFL failing to invest properly in the grassroots themselves and passing the buck to clubs, who should be focusing more on winning premierships than developing talent.

I wonder how much the AFL would need to bribe the GPS and similarly prestigious private schools in Brisbane to run Australian rules competitions, take them seriously and offer scholarships.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Not sure but are the key forwards any better next season and would they be available later in the draft Clubs will have the ability to trade future picks two years in advance from next season Annable is our first round pick next season what's our Academy like form 2026 is it worth trading our future 1st 2026 pick to take the Key forwards this draft

I think we'll need to be a bit careful with getting sucked into this whirlpool of trading forward our future draft picks into the current draft. Melbourne tried this on for a few years in a row and in the end it appears to be catching up with them.

 

[blueiris]

I think we'll need to be a bit careful with getting sucked into this whirlpool of trading forward our future draft picks into the current draft. Melbourne tried this on for a few years in a row and in the end it appears to be catching up with them.

they don't have the Academy we do and I'M pretty sure they thought they were getting Mac Andrew in the NGA when they did the first of those future draft trades

 

[dlanod]

Weird, I know what our pressies are but still want Christmas to come early

But, ideally, not too early!