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lol at the Collingwood draft room when they bid on the Sydney kid, and Sydney passed.

They looked like they had been caught with their pants down.

On the roar deal Fish brought up how Richmond, North and Carlton all drafted who they thought were number one on their draft board. It’s very interesting because Levi could have well been second on all their boards but they didn’t bid because the one person they rated higher was still available. Then Adelaide just had to rank Draper higher than Ashcroft and boom he slips to five.

Of course Collingwood and that pick shows exactly why you don’t **** around when you (might) have someone ranked higher on your board available. While as a whole people might be outraged no one bid on Levi higher it makes complete sense from each clubs point of view why they didn’t.
 
I think the risk only shows up in the later rounds. Bidding on guys in later rounds you absolutely need to want to take the kid or be very confident that the other team has the list spots and points to match.

Really though with how teams position their picks for the first round there was zero chance we (or Gold Coast or Essendon) were passing. So really its not a risk for Adelaide/Carlton/North to have bid, no matter how much it makes sense
 
I think the risk only shows up in the later rounds. Bidding on guys in later rounds you absolutely need to want to take the kid or be very confident that the other team has the list spots and points to match.

Really though with how teams position their picks for the first round there was zero chance we (or Gold Coast or Essendon) were passing. So really its not a risk for Adelaide/Carlton/North to have bid, no matter how much it makes sense

Yeah but bidding just for the sake of bidding to make the other club “accountable” is also not how the system was designed, it’s a merit-based symptom, at least in it’s design.

Clubs with out any father sons/academy/NGA in a draft can also benefit greatly if they are crafty. As you can trade up to get high in the draft with picks you would otherwise be unable to. So it benefits all. It’s why I don’t understand all the carry on.
 
Yeah but bidding just for the sake of bidding to make the other club “accountable” is also not how the system was designed, it’s a merit-based symptom, at least in it’s design.

Clubs with out any father sons/academy/NGA in a draft can also benefit greatly if they are crafty. As you can trade up to get high in the draft with picks you would otherwise be unable to. So it benefits all. It’s why I don’t understand all the carry on.
nods - for every club who 'bought' a first round pick with a bunch of later ones ... there is another club who sold those later picks for their otherwise unattainable first round pick.
 
Yeah but bidding just for the sake of bidding to make the other club “accountable” is also not how the system was designed, it’s a merit-based symptom, at least in it’s design.

Clubs with out any father sons/academy/NGA in a draft can also benefit greatly if they are crafty. As you can trade up to get high in the draft with picks you would otherwise be unable to. So it benefits all. It’s why I don’t understand all the carry on.

Because #VICBIAS

The cynical and asinine framing of equalisation measures by Melbourne-based national media has hurt the game for decades

We finally have a system that has delivered an even competition and benefits all clubs while still growing the game in northern states but the Old Guard are sh***ing the bed because the Lions win a flag
 
Because #VICBIAS

The cynical and asinine framing of equalisation measures by Melbourne-based national media has hurt the game for decades

We finally have a system that has delivered an even competition and benefits all clubs while still growing the game in northern states but the Old Guard are sh***ing the bed because the Lions win a flag

To be fair (and I find that very difficult) I hated the hawks and geelong during their eras - just so over them.

We are just as dominant, in men's and women's, so it's possible people are just a wee bit over everything lions.
 
I do very much agree that the outrage is very much in the public and the media. Im pretty sure the clubs and the AFL love how much it has helped open up trades. So much more value in grabbing up later picks then swapping them over to move up the order.
 

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Always interesting to hear who clubs were after and how different trades were being offered up. Also interesting to see what clubs think they need is so often different to what supporters and the public think they need

Also still shocked on how clubs werent interested in taking up North's offers to trade their future first round pick
 
Many of the talls who don't make it here seem to go to the SANFL (Ballenden, Skinner, McFadyen). Pity that none of them seem to make it to AFL level from there.
I would assume it would be because they are just not good enough.
You would have to think they would get more exposure in a VFL team, but maybe the VFL teams have a small cap in comparison?
 
SANFL is the strongest competition outside the AFL in my view.

Not the worst move, as if you can go there and shine, then it will be noticed as a 19 year old ruck.

Given he was on the list of overage academy players though, obviously he got some news or advice he didn't like.
 
SANFL is the strongest competition outside the AFL in my view.

Not the worst move, as if you can go there and shine, then it will be noticed as a 19 year old ruck.

Given he was on the list of overage academy players though, obviously he got some news or advice he didn't like.

Wouldn't be surprised if he never gets out of the reserves team though like Tasker and Tozer and I think there's been others
 

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