Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[Veer Right]

Buckaroo gets a lot closer on a fairer track and the magic man played the percentages by going wide from that position.

Tell me a single MC winner that has won circling the field from near enough to last at the 700 when he launched.

Percentages? ... nahhhhh.

He would of went looking for runs on the inside once the cart into the race never eventuated if he was playing percentages.

Magic man shit the bed.

 

[Aussie Assault]

Tell me a single MC winner that has won circling the field from near enough to last at the 700 when he launched.

Percentages? ... nahhhhh.

He would of went looking for runs on the inside once the cart into the race never eventuated if he was playing percentages.

Magic man shit the bed.

He didn't have a lot of options. What was taking him into the race? There wasn't much back there getting moving? And he certainly aint giving the winner the respect of it carting him into the race. Because if he put the brakes on at the 700m to get inside Onesmooth, then he's following Knights Choice into the race. On form, that's not ideal.

Absurde is about the only other horse that was back where he was that ran on other than the winner, and it was on the fence compared to him 3 wide - the difference in barriers.

 

[onthehill24]

Tell me a single MC winner that has won circling the field from near enough to last at the 700 when he launched.

Percentages? ... nahhhhh.

He would of went looking for runs on the inside once the cart into the race never eventuated if he was playing percentages.

Magic man shit the bed.

Cross counter he came down the middle

 

[Aussie Assault]

Cross counter he came down the middle

He had cover for a fair bit more though, which may have even hindered his run a little.. But didn't really get out and running until the 300-400.

 

[Jugada]

Cross counter he came down the middle

CC didn't even make his run till the 400m. Buckaroo took off 6 wide no cover at the 800m

 

[Hawksboy72]

Cross counter he came down the middle

Efficient 07.

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[Jugada]

Don't buy the whole he had no other options take either. He is a world class jockey supposedly so more should be expected than just dragging back to last and taking off 15 wide from a long way out.

We have seen plenty of great rides from those drawn the carpark who were more proactive

 

[Jugada]

Efficient 07.

On SM-S918B using BigFooty.com mobile app

He got cover and didn't have to make his run until the straight either. It's not that you can't come from the back it's that you can't take off and try to circle them from 800m out facing the breeze

 

[Lunchtime]

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/melbourne-cup-winner-knights-choice-receives-invite-to-run-in-dubai-20241106

 

[Aussie Assault]

Don't buy the whole he had no other options take either. He is a world class jockey supposedly so more should be expected than just dragging back to last and taking off 15 wide from a long way out.

We have seen plenty of great rides from those drawn the carpark who were more proactive

Problem is we only remember the good rides that win when ridden for luck. Plenty of good things beaten every day that are eating arse all the way up the straight and cannot get out.

 

[pendlebury_10]

He got cover and didn't have to make his run until the straight either. It's not that you can't come from the back it's that you can't take off and try to circle them from 800m out facing the breeze

Especially when the biggest question mark on the horse is whether it gets the distance - conserving energy and taking the shortest path home is paramount.

 

[Sockeye]

Don't buy the whole he had no other options take either. He is a world class jockey supposedly so more should be expected than just dragging back to last and taking off 15 wide from a long way out.

We have seen plenty of great rides from those drawn the carpark who were more proactive

This. Watch the vision from above. He took two wrong options early in the race, and followed it up with the stupid decision to take off from the 800. The worst ride on a MC fancy I can remember.
Shane Dye Veandercross levels.
Both Dolan and the Japanese rider said they had watched multiple Melbourne Cups in the lead up (they did their homework) and both said it influenced them to stay inside and pick their way through the field. FWIW Dolan got up because the seas just parted for him and his horse never lost momentum at all.
Zahra's ride last year on WAF was the masterclass and what Joao should have been trying to emulate. Zahra didn't just drop out from barrier 16, he jumped, came across, but then hunted up to get his position, then put him to sleep on the rail.

 

[Jugada]

Yeah for me it's not even just that he took off 6WNC and gave him no hope. There were options to try something to not be in that position to begin with but he just let him drift further and further back and then compounded the lack of initiative early by just roasting him. If you are in such a shit spot at that point I would rather roll the dice and hope for cover and runs through the pack

 

[pacemaker]

https://www.racenet.com.au/amp/news/100-into-32-million-punter-lands-remarkable-2024-melbourne-cup-first-four-with-ladbrokes-20241105

Would they let it all to be withdrawn at once? Or will turnover rules apply?

 

[Jugada]

https://www.racenet.com.au/amp/news/100-into-32-million-punter-lands-remarkable-2024-melbourne-cup-first-four-with-ladbrokes-20241105

Would they let it all to be withdrawn at once? Or will turnover rules apply?

Of course they would. Why on earth would turnover rules apply to a winning bet?

 

[Veer Right]

copy/paste from youtube comments..

A curious bit of trivia:In July of this year, Knight’s Choice ran 4th in the Caloundra Cup. The name of the horse that ran 3rd in that race was ….. Warp Speed (Aus) !!!

 

[pacemaker]

Of course they would. Why on earth would turnover rules apply to a winning bet?

Maybe not turnover rules perhaps but terms and conditions about winning so much. Do you honestly think books dont protect themselves with such a payout?

 

[Jugada]

Maybe not turnover rules perhaps but terms and conditions about winning so much. Do you honestly think books dont protect themselves with such a payout?

They have already been paid

 

[pacemaker]

They have already been paid

Great everyone wins. Money in his account. Sounds so easy.

 

[Big Bryza]

You could say that about any of the faves out the back that went carpark instead of riding for luck in the fast lanes like Robbie.. it seems like none of them saw the track bias inside.

Okita was huge. Got to the front a long way out and was oh so close.

Warp Speed is a interesting watch. Was peeling out, then changed his mind late for a run inside. If he stays wider he doesn’t run a place on that track, but if he does go inside earlier he wins. Also gets held up late which cost him the margin in the end.

Sea King from barrier 1 to last in the first few strides was a hard watch.

Onesmooth inside gate to 3 wide is nearly the poorest run of the race.

Vauban basically ran as I expected and not good enough in that sized field or racing conditions as it showed last year.

Absurde was great and could have won the race with a bit more luck. Huge run.

Buckaroo gets a lot closer on a fairer track and the magic man played the percentages by going wide from that position.

Magic Man was a scaredy cat after what happened last year. He goes inside and it probably wins.