List Mgmt. 2024 List Management 📃

[PezzDogg95]

Will be interesting to see whether Duffy comes out at all this year or whether he is still on our radar. It would be a shame for all involved is he were to miss this opportunity. I felt we should consider listing him on our reserves list, get him out on a small wage and doing whatever training and rehab he can do with the reserves side. That is if that's what he wants to do, may be better for him to do his rehab at home.

Riley Bev wrote a small piece on AFL website about this today.

Said we are committed to Duffy for 2025, and he will come out mid next year ahead of being officially listed in November for season 2025.

Will likely be a Cat B Rookie replacing Akuei, who must either be delisted or promoted to senior list at the end of the season.

 

[Aphrodite]

Riley Bev wrote a small piece on AFL website about this today.

Said we are committed to Duffy for 2025, and he will come out mid next year ahead of being officially listed in November for season 2025.

Will likely be a Cat B Rookie replacing Akuei, who must either be delisted or promoted to senior list at the end of the season.

Injured Irishman still committed to Blues, eyes 2025 start

Matt Duffy is expected to arrive in Australia in mid-2024 ahead of joining Carlton for the 2025 season

www.afl.com.au

CARLTON expects Irish recruit Matt Duffy to return to Australia midway through next year where he will finish his recovery from an ACL injury at Ikon Park.
Duffy was one of two Irish recruits that the Blues lured to Australia back in August, but ruptured his ACL playing for Gaelic side Dromard last month and has remained in his homeland to begin his rehab.

He subsequently hasn't been listed at Carlton for next season, though there is a commitment for the teenager to return to the Blues midway through next year ahead of officially joining the club in 2025.

 

[The Bighouse]

Injured Irishman still committed to Blues, eyes 2025 start

Matt Duffy is expected to arrive in Australia in mid-2024 ahead of joining Carlton for the 2025 season

www.afl.com.au

“but ruptured his ACL playing for Gaelic side Dromard last month and has remained in his homeland to begin his rehab”.
Was done two (2) months ago…only reported to us last month.

 

[Aphrodite]

“but ruptured his ACL playing for Gaelic side Dromard last month and has remained in his homeland to begin his rehab”.
Was done two (2) months ago…only reported to us last month.

Reported mid November:-

Duffy sidelined for extended period

Irish recruit Matt Duffy is set for an extended stint on the sidelines.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[The Bighouse]

Reported mid November:-

Duffy sidelined for extended period

Irish recruit Matt Duffy is set for an extended stint on the sidelines.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Injured the very start of October c/- Stamos’s investigative skills. Slow news turn on this & limited accurate detail, including the non-listing for ‘24.

 

[AT97]

https://archive.md/Y1yr0

AFL Academy coach Tarkyn Lockyer on five names to watch in 2024 …​

Ben Camporeale: “No doubt the Blues fans will be watching him pretty closely over the next 12 months, both he and his brother Lucas. He does play a little bit like his dad (Scott), where he wins his own ball and he uses it really well. He’s a great decision-maker and he’s got that little bit of height as well. He’s got a light body at the moment, so no doubt he’ll get in the gym and put a couple of kilos on his frame.”

 

[Coona Blues]

https://archive.md/Y1yr0

AFL Academy coach Tarkyn Lockyer on five names to watch in 2024 …​

Ben Camporeale: “No doubt the Blues fans will be watching him pretty closely over the next 12 months, both he and his brother Lucas. He does play a little bit like his dad (Scott), where he wins his own ball and he uses it really well. He’s a great decision-maker and he’s got that little bit of height as well. He’s got a light body at the moment, so no doubt he’ll get in the gym and put a couple of kilos on his frame.”

Three of the five rated are father/son prospects. As it sits with loose ratings Levi and Tyler would be top 5, while Ben is more a second half of the first round, while brother Lucas, who is more outside probably sits in the second or third round.

There is, of course, a chance Ben will rise up the charts off his Futures game showing, but likely the 8-10 bracket is his ceiling on projections. Welsh is clearly the best key forward on exposed form, so should be top 5. Ashcroft, O’Sullivan and Smith are firmly in top 5 debates.

Plenty of water to go under the bridge, but Ben looks like a great balanced mid prospect, who may end up on a half back flank or wing at the next level depending on our mix in 2025 and beyond. Lucas is clearly a silky link, peripheral type first and foremost, wing, half back seem to be certainly his go. Dare I say, projects not unlike Lochie O’Brien in type. His precision left boot can absolutely be a weapon off one wing or as a HBF distributing “seagull”(yes, they have an important place in modern footy)

 

[The Smoking Gun]

Three of the five rated are father/son prospects. As it sits with loose ratings Levi and Tyler would be top 5, while Ben is more a second half of the first round, while brother Lucas, who is more outside probably sits in the second or third round.

There is, of course, a chance Ben will rise up the charts off his Futures game showing, but likely the 8-10 bracket is his ceiling on projections. Welsh is clearly the best key forward on exposed form, so should be top 5. Ashcroft, O’Sullivan and Smith are firmly in top 5 debates.

Plenty of water to go under the bridge, but Ben looks like a great balanced mid prospect, who may end up on a half back flank or wing at the next level depending on our mix in 2025 and beyond. Lucas is clearly a silky link, peripheral type first and foremost, wing, half back seem to be certainly his go. Dare I say, projects not unlike Lochie O’Brien in type. His precision left boot can absolutely be a weapon off one wing or as a HBF distributing “seagull”(yes, they have an important place in modern footy)

The Campo boys should be out in the 4th Round IMO. Outta mind, outta sight and cheap as chips.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Three of the five rated are father/son prospects. As it sits with loose ratings Levi and Tyler would be top 5, while Ben is more a second half of the first round, while brother Lucas, who is more outside probably sits in the second or third round.

There is, of course, a chance Ben will rise up the charts off his Futures game showing, but likely the 8-10 bracket is his ceiling on projections. Welsh is clearly the best key forward on exposed form, so should be top 5. Ashcroft, O’Sullivan and Smith are firmly in top 5 debates.

Plenty of water to go under the bridge, but Ben looks like a great balanced mid prospect, who may end up on a half back flank or wing at the next level depending on our mix in 2025 and beyond. Lucas is clearly a silky link, peripheral type first and foremost, wing, half back seem to be certainly his go. Dare I say, projects not unlike Lochie O’Brien in type. His precision left boot can absolutely be a weapon off one wing or as a HBF distributing “seagull”(yes, they have an important place in modern footy)

I wouldn't be surprised if Ben rose to top 5. Reckon he would be in the 6-10 bracket right now. He really improved as last season went on which is normally a good sign. Lucas would be somewhere in the 2nd round. Much can still change though.

Alot depends on if they blitz the under 18 championships and whether they get senior sanfl games. Both probably need to happen for them to go high as the SANFL Under 18s comp tends to go under the radar compared to NAB League.

It'll be a really interesting draft. Most of the top 10 are mids and mostly in the classy inside/out mold. It will be interesting to see how they separate themselves.

 

[JuddgementDay]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ben rose to top 5. Reckon he would be in the 6-10 bracket right now. He really improved as last season went on which is normally a good sign. Lucas would be somewhere in the 2nd round. Much can still change though.

Alot depends on if they blitz the under 18 championships and whether they get senior sanfl games. Both probably need to happen for them to go high as the SANFL Under 18s comp tends to go under the radar compared to NAB League.

It'll be a really interesting draft. Most of the top 10 are mids and mostly in the classy inside/out mold. It will be interesting to see how they separate themselves.

I hope we can finally take some advantage of the F&S rules, and get them both for RD3 & RD4 picks

 

[Fevolution!]

He's had minutes in the VFL, unclear how much video or training work has been done (knowing us I'd imagine almost none). Was moved into the midfield as junior and started to dominate games.

Walsh as a centre bounce mid is still a weird dice roll to make, and we probably need 3 athletically capable mids who can play the wing to make the 22 work.

Kemp got dropped repeatedly and only forced his way in on the back of Young shitting the bed and Kemp taking the onus in the VFL to attack the ball in the air and run it out.

Either through instruction or lack of coaching insight, he had not been taking the game on until that point. It's possible that was part of a number of changes being trialled in the VFL, but the exact timing on his tactical change compared to the others eludes me at the moment.

Even then, still got dumped a week after making a fumble that almost cost us a semi-final berth. I think he did a good job in what was something of a makeshift 22 at times last year, but with Docherty redlining it last year in the midfield and now 30, I'm not sure he'll be in our 2023 midfield, or at least I don't think he'll have the most impact there.

Kemp on the other hand has all the raw tools to be a star midfield 1-2 punch with Cripps but everyone here seems to think he's not up to it mentally. I disagree.

I'm not comparing him to Cripps, and if he's a half-decent study he won't need half a VFL season... he can be embedded in the pre-season unless he has zero self-confidence and/or wherewithal.

And I'm happy to call bullshit on him lacking the pace and foot skills for the role. Ball winning is about where you're being played, and when afforded intercept duties he won plenty of ball. His first few steps are very good, and his top end pace is genuinely elite:



First game in he flashed wheels and the ability to release others by hand in traffic...

Look through his highlights from this year and tell me you don't see how the way he moves the ball by hand and foot stands out. Alongside that he's got enough fitness and defensive application to make it all work:



You don't have blokes who make quick decisions and moves in traffic like he does sitting in the back pocket if they can run out games. It's just ludicrous.


That's not really who he'd be replacing. I'd have him relieving on the wing and dipping back if the back six needed more help. I'd rely on the wings to effectively take turns being the 7th defender in the rotation, and his pace and skills would be a point of difference.

It's probably a long shot though, so it'd just be split between Ollie, Walsh, and Acres.

And as I regularly say these days, Newman is still in that next tier of selections, and we're unlikely to have a fully fit best 22 at any given point in the year, especially in defence. Conversely, he's the oldest player on the list, will be 31 at the start of the season and he pushed his body a lot in the back half of this year.

But I'm also banking on a fast start in a new environment from one of Elijah and Billy, and Cuningham doing enough to warrant selection as a regular mid, to name but a few. It won't all pan out, and he'd probably be the next name on the board.

Have a listen to Kemp’s Summer Sessions podcast

 

[Jimmae]

Have a listen to Kemp’s Summer Sessions podcast

Appreciates clarity of role and is training with the defenders, ok.

Disappointing given our midfield mix, but I expect he will shift out of defence at some point. By his own words, he had clearly been getting thrown around prior to about half-way through last year.

His skillset remains far more complete than most players on the field.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I feel like the Kemp to midfield discussion will be the same as the Walker to midfield discussion. Talked about every preseason but never actually happen.

In fairness to Walks he did play a few AFL games as an onballer and at least was predominantly a mid as a junior unlike Kemp. Never started the season or played a block of games there though.

 

[Jimmae]

I feel like the Kemp to midfield discussion will be the same as the Walker to midfield discussion. Talked about every preseason but never actually happen.

In fairness to Walks he did play a few AFL games as an onballer and at least was predominantly a mid as a junior unlike Kemp. Never started the season or played a block of games there though.

Walker's initial reactions at the stoppage worked against him playing as more of a mid on the inside, and his high action gamestyle worked against him tracking on the wing in for long stints. Kemp doesn't have the same issue in terms of his inside play.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Walker's initial reactions at the stoppage worked against him playing as more of a mid on the inside, and his high action gamestyle worked against him tracking on the wing in for long stints. Kemp doesn't have the same issue in terms of his inside play.

I think that's a bit of a leap. I have watched almost all Kemps games at VFL / AFL level as well as some junior games and haven't seen much evidence of a strong clearance game. Walker showed much more mid potential early on.

I just dont buy the logic that Kemp has all these attributes that lend to him being a great midfielder. Strong Clearance game? No. Great ball user? No. Ball Magnet? No. Massive Tank? No. He is big but we aren't really short of size in our midfield.

What Kemp is, however, is competetive, quick (but not express), athletic for his size, a great interceptor and a strong contested mark. All attributes that could make him a gun hybrid defender.

Im not saying Kemp becoming a mid is impossible because he hasn't spent enough time there to say so definitively. I personally would love if he was able to play there in a few years. Just saying there isn't much evidence to suggest he can.

 

[Arr0w]

Kemp won't be playing as a mid, with our current midfield group

Apart from a defender, think he would make for a dangerous 3rd tall forward

Kemp as a mid is stuff of unicorns at the moment

 

[JustaBattler]

Well I reckon....Kempy can play anywhere the kid is a gun - but I can understand why the Club wanted him to learn defense- since Marchbank/McGovern aren't ever guaranteed to stay on the park. The only question mark I would have on him as a mid is whether he has the running power to add that value over players like Hewett and Kennedy or Docherty - he has the smarts in my book and is pretty fast with his hands and second efforts. also..I reckon Motlop is worth a try in the midfield mix..he is built for it and is definitely a one touch type player... again- needs to develop his tank.

 

[bigblueboy]

I think that's a bit of a leap. I have watched almost all Kemps games at VFL / AFL level as well as some junior games and haven't seen much evidence of a strong clearance game. Walker showed much more mid potential early on.

I just dont buy the logic that Kemp has all these attributes that lend to him being a great midfielder. Strong Clearance game? No. Great ball user? No. Ball Magnet? No. Massive Tank? No. He is big but we aren't really short of size in our midfield.

What Kemp is, however, is competetive, quick (but not express), athletic for his size, a great interceptor and a strong contested mark. All attributes that could make him a gun hybrid defender.

Im not saying Kemp becoming a mid is impossible because he hasn't spent enough time there to say so definitively. I personally would love if he was able to play there in a few years. Just saying there isn't much evidence to suggest he can.

This

 

[Blue and Silver]

When I think of Kemp's standout traits, his intercept marking is far and away the best.

Seems strange to pull him away from that.

 

[lily of laguna]

Walker's initial reactions at the stoppage worked against him playing as more of a mid on the inside, and his high action gamestyle worked against him tracking on the wing in for long stints. Kemp doesn't have the same issue in terms of his inside play.

I think what worked against walks in the midfield was his shoulder problems over that 3/4 year period. He had all the tools to play the role he just kept being injured.

By the time he had that drastic surgery he was given time to build back his game continuity in the backline, I think he actually said to Ratts that his preference was to play forward and that he even considered leaving the club to get to play his preferred role.

Had he not had his shoulder issues he would have been an awesome mid/forward in the way we hope Moir and E Hollands will become.




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[marcmurphy3]

I think what worked against walks in the midfield was his shoulder problems over that 3/4 year period. He had all the tools to play the role he just kept being injured.

By the time he had that drastic surgery he was given time to build back his game continuity in the backline, I think he actually said to Ratts that his preference was to play forward and that he even considered leaving the club to get to play his preferred role.

Had he not had his shoulder issues he would have been an awesome mid/forward in the way we hope Moir and E Hollands will become.

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I think by that time we also didn't need him to be a star mid anymore. Early on the hope was that he could be that onballer that bursts from stoppage like Judd at Westcoast.

Once we actually recruited Judd and guys like Murphy, Gibbs and Carrazzo came on there was no longer the necessity to try turn him into that. We could afford for him to just play his role in positions that came more naturally to him.

 

[Jimmae]

When I think of Kemp's standout traits, his intercept marking is far and away the best.

Seems strange to pull him away from that.

I would have said his quick hands, clean touch and burst of speed were by far his best attributes. Can leap though, and is a good read of the flight, but not great at contested marking per se.

 

[Juddernaut08]

When I think of Kemp's standout traits, his intercept marking is far and away the best.

Seems strange to pull him away from that.

It is, but imagine him intercepting or even being a marking target in more dangerous areas. Other than Kennedy, we don't have any midfielders who are above average marks.

Crippa had a 2-year period when he was marking everything but that's not really the case anymore.

Having a mobile player like Kemp wreaking havoc with his marking all around the ground is what gets me excited. I agree with others though that we likely won't see that in 2024.

 

[gbatman]

Sounds like Kemp may not have the biggest tank, not surprising seeing he is a bigger player who has started his career with a number of long term injuries. That will keep him out of a midfield role. Will also hold him back from being a really good half back as well. If he works on it and improves enough in this area it opens up a lot of doors for what role he can play on the field.

His size and pace is his strength and he intercepts well. I think it's a matter of being patient with him and him pushing the boundaries of his running game.

Marchbank and McGovern wont play every game so there are his opportunities.

Just on those two, McGovern has had a few season to settle into his defensive role so expecting a really strong season from him and Marchbank, he finished the season off really well, a full preseason from him, he looks fit, we will get to see his elite running which is exciting for me. He's a great two way runner and link player which is unusual for someone around key position size.

 

[Juddernaut08]

The 2nd KPD is a very interesting one. Other than Weiters, who is the stopper? Marchbank/McGovern/Kemp all can peel off well, but we need one of them to be able to play a more disciplined role when required.

I don't think this is McG, and he's got the best disposal of the 3. I think Marchbank has the best size to do so.