List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft [Less discussion]

Bletch · Sep 26, 2024

2024 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 3, 38, 63, 68, 69, 72 (total points: 2938)
2025 draft picks: 2nd (Brisbane), 3rd, 4th

List changes:
Out: 10 - Domanic Akuei (Delisted), David Cuningham (Delisted), Caleb Marchbank (Delisted), Jack Martin (Delisted), Alex Mirkov (Delisted), Matt Owies (Trade - WCE), Matt Kennedy (Trade - WB), Jack Carroll (Delisted), Matt Carroll (Delisted), Sam Durdin (Delisted)
In: 2 - Nick Haynes (GWS - UFA), Matt Duffy (Ireland - Cat B Rookie)
Uncontracted: 0
Retained SSP/MSD Players: 1 - Cooper Lord
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Jordan Boyd

List status:
Primary - 32 (36-38)
Rookie - 3 (1-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 37 (44)

Free spots - 4-6 primary, 1-3 rookie (total 7)

Dates in Grey are TBC

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 4-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences
Fri 11-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period
Mon 14-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends

AFL Trade Period - Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 7-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections
Wed 16-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections

AFL Trade Period - Pick Swaps only: CLOSED
Thu 17-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only
Fri 8-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 4-Oct to Sun 6-Oct: National Draft Combine
Sun 6-Oct: Victorian State Combine
Sat 12-Oct: SA/NT State Combine
Sun 13-Oct: WA State Combine

Draft Nominations: IN PROGRESS
Tue 8-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Thu 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft)
Wed 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close
Wed 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft)
Wed 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close

Delisted Free Agency Period: CLOSED
Fri 1-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Fri 8-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

List Lodgment Dates: IN PROGRESS
Thu 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1
Thu 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close
Thu 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment
Wed 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment
Wed 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment
Fri 22-Nov: List Lodgment 2 (post National draft)
Mon 25-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts)

The Draft:
Wed 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One
Thu 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3)
Fri 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 25-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 16-Feb 5pm: SSP ends

4-Oct
1. Josh Battle (St Kilda) to Hawthorn. UFA - Saints receive band 1 compensation (pick 8).
2. Isaac Cumming (GWS) to Adelaide. UFA - GWS receive band 2 (end round 1) pick. (pick 21)
3. Tom Campbell (St Kilda) to Melbourne. DFA. No compensation.
4. Harry Perryman (GWS) to Collingwood. UFA - GWS receive band 1 compensation (pick 16).
5. Elliott Himmelberg (Adelaide) to Gold Coast Suns. UFA - No compensation.
6. Nick Haynes (GWS) to Carlton. UFA - No compensation.

7-Oct
7. Alex Neal-Bullen (Melbourne) to Adelaide. Trade. Dees receive 2nd round pick (28).
8. Jack Darling (West Coast) to North Melbourne. Trade. WCE receive 4th round pick (67).
9. Jack Graham (Richmond) to West Coast. UFA - Richmond receive band 4 (end round 2) pick (42).

11-Oct
10. Pick Trade. Richmond receive pick 20 from Brisbane. Brisbane receive Richmond's picks 32, 42, 43, 45.
11. Pick Trade. Carlton receive pick 73 and a future 2nd round pick. Brisbane receive picks 34 and 66
12. Pick Trade. Carlton receive pick 14 from Hawthorn. Hawthorn receive Carlton's future 1st and 2nd round picks.

14-Oct
13. Pick Trade. Melbourne receive pick 46 from Adelaide. Adelaide receive Melbourne's future 2nd round pick.
14. Pick Trade. Melbourne receive pick 9 and Essendon's future 3rd round pick. Essendon receive picks 28, 40, 46, 54, 65 and Melbourne's future 1st round pick.

15-Oct
15. Complex Trade.
Carlton receive picks 3, 63, 68. Give picks 12, 14, 73 and Matt Owies.
West Coast receive picks 12, 73 and players Matt Owies, Liam Baker. Give picks 3, 63, 68.
Richmond receive pick 14. Give Liam Baker.

16. Pick Trade. St Kilda receive pick 32 from Brisbane. Brisbane receive St Kilda's picks 27 and 45.
17. Complex Trade.
Port Adelaide receive picks 13, 29, 36, 50, Jack Lukosius, Joe Richards, Rory Atkins. Lose picks 39, 58, future 1st and Dan Houston.
Gold Coast receive picks 39, future 1st (Coll), future 1st (PA) and John Noble. Lose picks 13, 29, 50, and Jack Lukosius, Rory Atkins.
Collingwood receive pick 58 and Dan Houston. Lose picks 36, future 1st and Joe Richards, John Noble.

18. Harry Sharp (Brisbane) and future 3rd (Bris) to Melbourne. Brisbane receive picks 49 and future 3rd (Ess).

16-Oct
19. Shai Bolton (Richmond) and picks 14, future 3rd (Rich) to Fremantle. Richmond receive picks 10, 11 and 18
20. Daniel Rioli (Richmond) and picks 51, 60, 70 and 76 to Gold Coast. Richmond receive picks 6 and 23.
21. James Peatling (GWS) and GWS future 3rd, future 4th round picks to Adelaide. GWS receive Adelaide's future 2nd round pick.
22. Caleb Daniel (WB) to North Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive pick 25.
23. Luke Parker and Jacob Konstanty (Syd) to North Melbourne. Sydney receive pick 44.
24. Tom Barrass (WCE) and future 4th round pick (WCE) to Hawthorn. West Coast receive Hawthorn's future 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
25. Complex Trade
Geelong receive Bailey Smith and pick 45. Lose picks 17, 38.
Carlton receive pick 38. Lose Matthew Kennedy.
St Kilda receive Jackson Macrae. Lose pick 45.
Western Bulldogs receive Matthew Kennedy and pick 17. Lose Bailey Smith and Jackson Macrae.

26. Jake Stringer (Ess) to GWS. Essendon receive pick 53.

Delisted Free Agents
1. Jack Martin (Carlton) to Geelong.
2. Tim Membrey (St Kilda) to Collingwood.
3. Jack Carroll (Carlton) to St Kilda

Pick Trades (post Trade week)
1. Pick Trade: Brisbane receive pick 58 from Collingwood. Collingwood get picks 60, 66 in return.

Nominated:

Name	Type	From	Destination	Notes
Wade Derksen	Trade	GWS	Melbourne
Ivan Soldo	Trade	Port Adelaide	St Kilda

Yet to Nominate, but trade requested:

Name

Type

From

Destination

Notes

Mooted:

Name	Type	From	Destination	Notes
Deven Robertson	Trade	Brisbane	WCE, Freo
Hugh McCluggage	Trade	Brisbane	St Kilda	Likely to stay
Jaxon Prior	Trade	Brisbane	Essendon
Lewis Young	Trade	Carlton		Lack of suitors
Ben Hobbs	Trade	Essendon	Col, Rich
Dylan Shiel	Trade	Essendon	StK
Elijah Tsatas	Trade	Essendon	Richmond
Jayden Laverde	Trade	Essendon	StK, Car, Col, Gee
Zach Merrett	Trade	Essendon	StK	Likely to stay
Tom Emmett	Trade	Fremantle	Adelaide, Port
Will Brodie	Trade	Fremantle
Brandan Parfitt	DFA	Geelong	Melbourne
Sam De Koning	Trade	Geelong	Car	Likely to stay
Alex Davies	Trade	Gold Coast	Coll, Gee	Likely to stay
Malcolm Rosas Jr	Trade	Gold Coast	Adelaide, Brisbane
Leek Aleer	Trade	GWS	Mel, Car
Xavier O'Halloran	Trade	GWS	Western Bulldogs
Denver Grainger-Barras	Trade	Hawthorn	WCE, Freo
Finn Maginness	Trade	Hawthorn	Essendon, Sydney
Ned Reeves	Trade	Hawthorn
Sam Frost	Trade	Hawthorn	Syd, StK
Adam Tomlinson	Trade	Melbourne	StK, Col
Christian Petracca	Trade	Melbourne	Car	Likely to stay
Clayton Oliver	Trade	Melbourne	Gee
Jack Viney	Trade	Melbourne		Likely to stay
Kysaiah Pickett	Trade	Melbourne	Fremantle	Likely to stay
Luke Davies-Uniacke	Trade	North Melbourne	St Kilda	Likely to stay
Ollie Lord	Trade	Port Adelaide	Col, Melb
Tom Clurey	Trade	Port Adelaide	West Coast
Dustin Martin	Retired	Richmond	Gold Coast	Has met with GC
Chad Warner	Trade	Sydney	Fremantle
Peter Ladhams	Trade	Sydney
Jake Waterman	Trade	West Coast	Geelong, Mel	Likely to stay
Josh Rotham	UFA	West Coast	Essendon
Riley Garcia	Trade	Western Bulldogs	West Coast, North, Port
Rory Lobb	Trade	Western Bulldogs		Likely to stay

Full AFL Trade/Draft Key Dates

Official AFL Trade Hub

Official AFL Trade Tracker

Official AFL Draft Hub

Indicative Draft Order

List Changes by Club

AFL House twitter account - for official trade announcements

AFL Trade Radio twitter account

See also:
Carlton board List Management thread
Carlton board Trade discussion
Carlton board Draft discussion
BF 2024 AFL trade/draft board
BF Draft Hub 2024 AFL Draft discussion

GoBlues! · Oct 4, 2024

LanceRomance said:
Why does every other club get punished because st kilda can't keep a player?

Exactly.

If there must be compensation why not exclude Round 1 picks, and commence compensation from Round 2.

Every team deserves to keep their Round 1 draft position because they're all trying to improve their squad with the best available yound talent. **** St Kilda, they now have 2 picks in the top 10 (7 & 8).

TrueQldBlue · Oct 4, 2024

What a joke

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Bletch · Oct 4, 2024

Giants receive pick 21 (end rd 1) for Cumming. Nothing for Haynes.

Current draft picks: 12, 34, 65, 68, 71 (total points: 1988)

LanceRomance · Oct 4, 2024

Bletch said:
Giants receive pick 21 (end rd 1) for Cumming. Nothing for Haynes.

Current draft picks: 12, 34, 65, 68, 71 (total points: 1988)

Pick 34 will turn in to pick 40 i think.

mjonc43 · Oct 4, 2024

LanceRomance said:
Why does every other club get punished because st kilda can't keep a player?

SOS is the List Manager, all is good outside of the Curnow and McKay draft, beyond pick 1.

Bletch · Oct 4, 2024

LanceRomance said:
Pick 34 will turn in to pick 40 i think.

Won't be too many more compo picks you'd think. So just picks for matching f/s & academy. And those have to be paid for. So don't think it will go much further than it is now. May even come in a couple if Brisbane trade for picks in the 20s.

Gointocarlton · Oct 5, 2024

NewDarkNavyBlues said:
Pick 8 for Battle. This competition is a joke.

Ass Stain club president whinges at the AFL about father son rules at the B&F, gets rewarded with pick 8 for a schmuck defender. If Sayers whinges about something AFL related inequalities at the B&F tomorrow night, we'll probably get banned from the draft.

Wickzki · Oct 5, 2024

Mind blown at how much Hawthorn are paying Battle and how much Collingwood are paying Perryman.

Neither are close to elite. Both are getting paid similar money to Cripps.

Coona Blues · Oct 5, 2024

Wickzki said:
Mind blown at how much Hawthorn are paying Battle and how much Collingwood are paying Perryman.

Neither are close to elite. Both are getting paid similar money to Cripps.

The advantages of developing your own players from the draft. Using decent picks and getting quality, durable players, then developing them in house.

Mechanisms for acquiring players are so difficult to navigate. (You get clubs demanding multiple first rounders for 28yo (albeit quality) role players). Those who nurture their own solid citizens reap the rewards.

Having a side full of stars integral to the club’s success and a bevy of foreign legion types is not a good model. We must embrace the draft. We must develop the players we acquire through the draft, not leave them “untried” in the seconds while we play our “stars” injured and/or fatigued.

Sheephead · Oct 5, 2024

Wickzki said:
Mind blown at how much Hawthorn are paying Battle and how much Collingwood are paying Perryman.

Neither are close to elite. Both are getting paid similar money to Cripps.

That’s the Collingwood mantra now. They hit the mark for a while but lately they’ve gone offline. They’ve lost a couple of soldiers in Murphy and Adam’s recently and it’s changed them somewhat, for the worse.

Sheephead · Oct 5, 2024

Bletch said:
Won't be too many more compo picks you'd think. So just picks for matching f/s & academy. And those have to be paid for. So don't think it will go much further than it is now. May even come in a couple if Brisbane trade for picks in the 20s.

I agree. Re the Academy types, I get they invest in these kids etc etc blah blah blah. But for mine, that is the expectation of all clubs to continue to grow the game. Each club should have a high performance academy. If one of your players is ‘up there’, then you need to retain or obtain a 2nd rounder in that draft year and you only get priority access to ONE player. Clubs need to become complicit in the development of the game. Teams have to input the same system, the same investment and opportunity. I’m even an advocate of recruiting zones being bought back in. If kids want to move to a certain zone, that’s fine, they only get access to ONE player, the others are free range. The league needs to be equalised.

You also shouldn’t be allowed out of your mandatory 3 year rookie contract. Eg Horne-Francis. It’s a National competition, suck it up.

DangerousD · Oct 5, 2024

Wickzki said:
Mind blown at how much Hawthorn are paying Battle and how much Collingwood are paying Perryman.

Neither are close to elite. Both are getting paid similar money to Cripps.

If you’re believing the media about Battle and Perrymans wage, are you believing them for Cripps and Williams?

Lots seem to believe the media when it’s not one of our own

DangerousD · Oct 5, 2024

Sheephead said:
I agree. Re the Academy types, I get they invest in these kids etc etc blah blah blah. But for mine, that is the expectation of all clubs to continue to grow the game. Each club should have a high performance academy. If one of your players is ‘up there’, then you need to retain or obtain a 2nd rounder in that draft year and you only get priority access to ONE player. Clubs need to become complicit in the development of the game. Teams have to input the same system, the same investment and opportunity. I’m even an advocate of recruiting zones being bought back in. If kids want to move to a certain zone, that’s fine, they only get access to ONE player, the others are free range. The league needs to be equalised.

You also shouldn’t be allowed out of your mandatory 3 year rookie contract. Eg Horne-Francis. It’s a National competition, suck it up.

Aren’t the NGAs already a return to recruiting zones?
I’ve been jumping on our club about this, to me it’s been neglected and not a priority.

If you fix the payment method like you touched on, why limit at just one, if you invest in a player for 8 years but don’t get access to them because you happen to have one other player eligible that year isn’t right imo, if you pay properly people won’t mind.

I find it annoying that Marshall is a Lions academy member but plays at Sandringham.

macky99 · Oct 5, 2024

DangerousD said:
If you’re believing the media about Battle and Perrymans wage, are you believing them for Cripps and Williams?

Lots seem to believe the media when it’s not one of our own

Pretty sure the $ are the main factor triggering the Compo picks for Saints & GWS, so in this case the $ for Battle & Perryman are correct otherwise 1st round picks would not have been given.

Wickzki · Oct 5, 2024

DangerousD said:
If you’re believing the media about Battle and Perrymans wage, are you believing them for Cripps and Williams?

Lots seem to believe the media when it’s not one of our own

Not taking the media at their word at all.

Looking at the $$$ figures required to trigger the compensation and know Cripps took unders to re-sign.

Remember I shared the years length of his contract a good period of time before he officoally re-signed and before the media even guessed on that one (was full swing "Cripps to WA" headlines). It was relatively minor terms at that stage and all Cripps was saying to the media was "I really love the club" and "we'll sit down and get it done." He wasn't lying.

The salary cap has exploded again since and salaries across the league have shot up as a result. Coona Blues also right in the cost of doing business.

Just mind blowing how good that man has taken care of our club. We owe it to him to get him the cup.

DangerousD · Oct 5, 2024

Wickzki said:
Not taking the media at their word at all.

Looking at the $$$ figures required to trigger the compensation and know Cripps took unders to re-sign.

Remember I shared the years length of his contract a good period of time before he officoally re-signed and before the media even guessed on that one (was full swing "Cripps to WA" headlines). It was relatively minor terms at that stage and all Cripps was saying to the media was "I really love the club" and "we'll sit down and get it done." He wasn't lying.

The salary cap has exploded again since and salaries across the league have shot up as a result. Coona Blues also right in the cost of doing business.

Just mind blowing how good that man has taken care of our club. We owe it to him to get him the cup.

I believe the quoted figures, just commenting that the media when Williams signed for us stated figures, but they are widely dismissed here as BS.

Lots here say Cripps took unders and I’m sure he could have got more but if you believe media he’s still on $1M plus, but that could have gone up as you say or could be a different $$$ figure every year.

Never doubted he’d stay and I think we aren’t pushing hard enough this off season or last to maximise a tilt with an exceptionally strong core

Wickzki · Oct 5, 2024

DangerousD said:
I believe the quoted figures, just commenting that the media when Williams signed for us stated figures, but they are widely dismissed here as BS.

Lots here say Cripps took unders and I’m sure he could have got more but if you believe media he’s still on $1M plus, but that could have gone up as you say or could be a different $$$ figure every year.

Never doubted he’d stay and I think we aren’t pushing hard enough this off season or last to maximise a tilt with an exceptionally strong core

Re: Williams

Bell curve is a dramatic effect as does performance enhancing clauses in his contract.

Re: Cripps

His base salary isn't as high as the media would have you believe but is hitting his performance enhancers with regularity..

The base (guaranteed) salaries of these free agents is absurd.

Aphrodite · Oct 5, 2024

Aphrodite · Oct 5, 2024

*Bump

Bletch said:
Suggest replies to this thread are kept to updates to the data only - please refer to the linked discussion threads for trade/draft discussion.

Use the appropriate discussion threads below :-

Bletch said:
See also:
Carlton board List Management thread
Carlton board Trade discussion
Carlton board Draft discussion
BF 2024 AFL trade/draft board
BF Draft Hub 2024 AFL Draft discussion

Bletch · Oct 5, 2024

"Key Dates" section updated.

Frustratingly hard to find this information!

bmaurizio · Oct 5, 2024

Coona Blues said:
The advantages of developing your own players from the draft. Using decent picks and getting quality, durable players, then developing them in house.

Mechanisms for acquiring players are so difficult to navigate. (You get clubs demanding multiple first rounders for 28yo (albeit quality) role players). Those who nurture their own solid citizens reap the rewards.

Having a side full of stars integral to the club’s success and a bevy of foreign legion types is not a good model. We must embrace the draft. We must develop the players we acquire through the draft, not leave them “untried” in the seconds while we play our “stars” injured and/or fatigued.

Agree with you, however only problem is our mechanism for young talent development , ain’t reliable historically .
We have three areas of concern, coaching, recruiting , and player development, all critical and vital.
Can’t envision any drastic decisions taken until the Sayers & Cook administration moves on after 2025.

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Bletch · Oct 7, 2024

OP updated with today's trades (Alex Neal-Bullen, Jack Darling, Jack Graham).

skadoosh · Oct 7, 2024

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