Yep, played a good game. Would need to watch it again but from memory played the intercept role more than the traditional CHB game? 7 of his 8 marks were uncontested
May be wrong.
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Yep, played a good game. Would need to watch it again but from memory played the intercept role more than the traditional CHB game? 7 of his 8 marks were uncontested
May be wrong.
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So Marchbank is no good because Collingwood planned to kick a bunch of goals on him, even if they didn't and he racked up intercepts?
No need to fact check any more. He conceded some frees in his first game back. Doesn't mean he's no good, just that he needs to readjust to the level.
At his best, do you see a spot for Marchbank BB?
Personally, this week would have been a good game for him to be fit to play, on someone like Burgess
The Zurhaar matchup didn't suit him at all
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Agreed.
I feel Marchbank can be a bit of a ball-stopper when we try to counterattack but he's ahead of Kemp when asked to play taller.
I still feel we'd ideally have a second genuine KPD in the lineup which frees up Kemp & Weiters (CHB) to play a more assertive role.
Easier said than done, but clearing the list of Young, Durdin and Marchbank to acquire a Sam Collins type would be better for our list and gameday structure
Then, 3rd tall defenders are more easily obtainable, one that is earmarked for Gov given his age
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Massimo D'Ambrosio to essendon has been good, got poached by the hawks as essendon low balled him, That one with the shocking mullet to the dogs, Poulter has been good there's usually about 1-2 players from it make it and it's clearly not the primary way of aquiring players
2021 mid season draft is full of regular players - including one J Boyd - but that may be because 2020 was full of covid disruption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_AFL_draft
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No doubt but it's an area that I feel we've neglected to a degree, ideally, we'd bring in a ready-to-go option and have a draftee developing in the 2s to future-proof our D50.
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At his best, absolutely.
Will we see his best...? I've been hopeful, that hope is starting to disappear though. You can only build so much form when you're playing as infrequently as he does.
I'll put it this way - even if we're in win-now mode, if I had to choose between Kemp and Marchbank for a single defensive post I'd go with Kemp. Continuity is king. I've got more hope in Kemp ironing out his decision making and contest work than I do in Marchbank playing anything close to a full season.
And as much as it's about the individual, it's also about the unit. 23+ games of Kemp is better for the defensive group to gel than 2 games of Kemp, then 1 of Marchy, then 2 of Kemp, then 4 of Marchy, then 8 of Kemp, then 2 of Marchy....etc.
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iF the midfield is dominating - the team can cope with a suspect defender. Carlton's midfield hasn't been anywhere near dominating - Olliw Hollands has been going in to ground ball contest instead of Docherty - massive change, at the same time Carroll is getting game time and he is learning on the job - an inside bull he isnt right now like O Holands gets shoved out of teh way and fumbles because of it.
Everything is linked to everything else. SOJH and Doch are huge outs, unfortunately.
Everything is linked to everything else. SOJH and Doch are huge outs, unfortunately.
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Interesting discussions re Marchbank... Funnily enough my Uncle who's worked in a list/recruiting team for 15 odd years at the club which Nathan Buckley was the coach of. He mentioned that they were actually trying to orchestrate a trade for him when he left GWS when we snagged him.
I believe Bucks was head coach at the time of that trade?
I believe Bucks was head coach at the time of that trade?
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I actually think we are short a midfielder because of the half forward injury issues /form and that's why our midfield is lacking this year.
I'd rather we move Kennedy back into the midfield and put Carroll at Half Forward (looks more dangerous there than the midfield). Walsh should provide some coverage on the opposition spread if they get the clearance
Outside of his first game this season, I have yet to see anything that's makes me think Carroll has the future to be in the midfield full time. I am seeing the same issues he had in VFL, it is just highlighted to larger extent in the AFL. He's a huge question mark for me
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Marchbank is an interceptor only....horrid one on one and an average baloony kick.. I'd stick with kemp
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Regardless of what I think about him it’s pretty clear how highly Marchbank is rated internally so much so that whenever he’s available he’s straight in, something that’s supported by the players in the way they talk about him.
Obviously his durability is a massive issue however I get the feeling whenever he’s cleared as fit to play he will be picked, and I’m totally fine with that. If anything we should consider his injury prone nature as a bonus in that we get his elite talent at a significant discount.
Obviously his durability is a massive issue however I get the feeling whenever he’s cleared as fit to play he will be picked, and I’m totally fine with that. If anything we should consider his injury prone nature as a bonus in that we get his elite talent at a significant discount.
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The counterpoint is that the club has forked out a significant amount of money over 7 years to play as an undersized KPD that it rarely available.
I'm sure that the club, like all of us, is hoping that he can get his body right and really solidify his place at the top level but unfortunately, there are still a lot of question marks for a guy playing this year as a 27yo, who really should be a finished product.
That description also fits Kemp tbf. He's weak 1 on 1 from what I've seen but can be a decent intercept. Ball in hand he worries me in the same way that Liam Jones did.
I like Marchbank and when he has had a couple games he's usually showed why he's so highly rated, often right before getting injured again.
He can read the play very well, he's comfortably the best natural interceptor on our list. He also has a huge tank and can run all afternoon/evening. Before the string of injuries there was even talk of him playing on a wing.
Given all the interruptions he's had it has been hard for him to round out his game. I think with continuity his 1v1 work would solidify and his disposal would sound out. I don't think he's ever going to be an elite kick or anything but would be significantly better than he's shown.
You need to appreciate the way the game has trended to understand why we desperately want Marchy to work out. The most damaging and sought after defenders these days are interceptors, not lockdown 1v1 defenders. It's why we've tried to expand Weiters from a lockdown full back o have some more intercept game. If Marchy were to put have some luck with his health for a while he'd be an elite interceptor and would dramatically change our defence imo.
Though I'm well aware that's a huge if on the luck. An old NFL saying is "The best ability is availability", which he doesn't even come close to.
He can read the play very well, he's comfortably the best natural interceptor on our list. He also has a huge tank and can run all afternoon/evening. Before the string of injuries there was even talk of him playing on a wing.
Given all the interruptions he's had it has been hard for him to round out his game. I think with continuity his 1v1 work would solidify and his disposal would sound out. I don't think he's ever going to be an elite kick or anything but would be significantly better than he's shown.
You need to appreciate the way the game has trended to understand why we desperately want Marchy to work out. The most damaging and sought after defenders these days are interceptors, not lockdown 1v1 defenders. It's why we've tried to expand Weiters from a lockdown full back o have some more intercept game. If Marchy were to put have some luck with his health for a while he'd be an elite interceptor and would dramatically change our defence imo.
Though I'm well aware that's a huge if on the luck. An old NFL saying is "The best ability is availability", which he doesn't even come close to.
Given you're an astute fact checker, I would love for you to find where I said Marchbank is simply 'no good'.
I have serious question marks on his ability to play one-on-one and the evidence of that is compelling. I do however think he's a good intercept defender, smart footballer & generally stiffens our defence but if he's asked to strongly defend a dangerous opposition forward he struggles - the North game is just one of many examples.
The love for him from the fanbase far outweighs the productive output we get from him.
The guy has had to contend with more than his fair share of injury cruelty and I feel for him. Hope he can find some continuity with his footy in the 2nd half of the year and get back to his absolute best.
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End of last season. He's been developed in the third tall role and missed a lot of footy. So only glimpses.
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Yep. he was drafted as a CHB & as I said, if played there, he'd be our best there too
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I reckon we should go after Will Phillips at the end of the year. Granted they have a gazillion midfielders on there list but he is too good to not get a game for Norf as from what I’ve seen of him he is talented. Hopefully we can get him on the cheap and would give some youth to our midfield stocks.
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