List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Nathan Barley]

Whinging works:



Hard to see how perryman won't be Band 1 as well - likely we are out to Pick 20.

What a rort

 

[Nathan Barley]

McKay and Battle wouldn't even make our best 22 and yet they're worth very early picks?

Saints will stuff it up anyway

 

[McIvor]

Probably a numpty question, but has the trade period officially opened today?

When does it go to?

 

[McIvor]

McKay and Battle wouldn't even make our best 22 and yet they're worth very early picks?

Saints will stuff it up anyway

You also just know that the Saints will bid on Father / Son and Academy players to make clubs pay up.

 

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[McIvor]

What a rort

I wouldn't even give up a pick in the 20's for Battle.

Farcical.

How do the Saints feel that every other club is penalised for Battle leaving and having their picks pushed back?

 

[Elixuh]

Whinging works:



Hard to see how perryman won't be Band 1 as well - likely we are out to Pick 20.

That’s genuinely just a priority pick for the saints. Hilarious.

 

[dlanod]

How do the Saints feel that every other club is penalised for Battle leaving and having their picks pushed back?

That one is easy - zero shots are given, same as I would feel if we lost someone and got top compo instead of getting shafted for Rocky.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I wouldn't even give up a pick in the 20's for Battle.

Farcical.

How do the Saints feel that every other club is penalised for Battle leaving and having their picks pushed back?

With our squad i wouldn't want him at all

I don't get it at all. Was horrible both times we played them this year

 

[SpecialBruce]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

Zac is loved here so it's dangerous mentioning him, but I am in the same camp. I'd prefer to lose him over a Starcevich for example.

 

[Tom14]

With our squad i wouldn't want him at all

I don't get it at all. Was horrible both times we played them this year

There will be a ton of hype on the Hawks next year and Barass should be a good pickup. But Battle - I think will just be fine?

Frankly if Frosty didn't have the maverick streak that I love him for, I think he's a better option as he can play on taller types. Battle is just pure average.

 

[Tom14]

Zac is loved here so it's dangerous mentioning him, but I am in the same camp. I'd prefer to lose him over a Starcevich for example.

Genuinely think Zac has moved to #1 whipping boy status actually after Cam's second half of the season.

 

[SizeMatters]

Dev, Prior, Tunstill for Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

?

They get three young guns and we get an injury riddled tall. Seems a win win to me.

 

[KissKiss]

The pseudo priority picks the last two years for very average defenders has been way over the top. I know people will go on about the cap expansion but its completely crazy to be paying guys like McKay and Battle 900k+ a year for several years. Several other players must be looking at them and wanting out the door as they are getting screwed

 

[Nathan Barley]

The pseudo priority picks the last two years for very average defenders has been way over the top. I know people will go on about the cap expansion but its completely crazy to be paying guys like McKay and Battle 900k+ a year for several years. Several other players must be looking at them and wanting out the door as they are getting screwed

I think it shows that either the salary cap is too big or the bulk of footballers are underpaid in comparison to these guys

Free agency shouldn't be getting used to get average footballers way too much money

 

[Tom14]

The pseudo priority picks the last two years for very average defenders has been way over the top. I know people will go on about the cap expansion but its completely crazy to be paying guys like McKay and Battle 900k+ a year for several years. Several other players must be looking at them and wanting out the door as they are getting screwed

Classic AFL not reacting to a problem because they get more content out of it. Caps gone up so there is more $ to throw around - but player salaries didn't immediately increase with the cap increase.

So a player earning 900k in a FA contract now is being compared with player salaries that were negotiated 2-3 years ago, and aren't being benchmarked against what salaries will likely be in future years.

At the end of the day it has hurt us the least of basically anyone, but sucks to be picking just after the saints in the draft this year.

 

[Elixuh]

Classic AFL not reacting to a problem because they get more content out of it. Caps gone up so there is more $ to throw around - but player salaries didn't immediately increase with the cap increase.

So a player earning 900k in a FA contract now is being compared with player salaries that were negotiated 2-3 years ago, and aren't being benchmarked against what salaries will likely be in future years.

At the end of the day it has hurt us the least of basically anyone, but sucks to be picking just after the saints in the draft this year.

That’s very glass half full Tom. On the flip side, st Kilda getting picks in before you means the draft busts will likely be snapped up.

 

[Elixuh]

All these compo picks, FS and academies don’t help trades when you’ll keep getting pushed back.

 

[SizeMatters]

Eh. Don’t worry about these salaries. It will be the new norm. They’ve just managed themselves extremely well to take full advantage of it. B graders getting paid yesteryears A grade salary. Good on them.

The AFL screwed up in not adjusting the cap compo methodology though big time. Should have had some sort of salary cap price escalation mechanism inserted but it obviously seems they “forgot”.

It looks really bad after the Saint head nodder whinged about all the rorts in the game last night.

 

[Tom14]

Very funny that if we'd lost Clug for $1.4 mill per season he'd generate us pick 21 at this point:

 

[Tom14]

Eh. Don’t worry about these salaries. It will be the new norm. They’ve just managed themselves extremely well to take full advantage of it. B graders getting paid yesteryears A grade salary. Good on them.

The AFL screwed up in not adjusting the cap compo methodology though big time. Should have had some sort of salary cap price escalation mechanism inserted but it obviously seems they “forgot”.

It looks really bad after the Saint head nodder whinged about all the rorts in the game last night.

It's convenient AFL blindness to the problem to allow more trade/FA content. Absolute masters they are.

Problem was very very obvious and predictable last year - as you say they should be scaling up the comparison salaries consistent with teh cap increase.

 

[SizeMatters]

Is there a risk we go into draft point deficit next year with all of these crazy compo picks? Pick 18 will soon be pick 25.

Apparent they changing up the point values next year? So any deficit points we carry over will be way worse.

All for the Premiership. Worth.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Don't pay the Perryman until he makes it to the senior side

 

[Nuggo]

Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Forward material?

 

[M Malice]

Dev, Prior, Tunstill for Oscar Allen?

They get three young guns and we get an injury riddled tall. Seems a win win to me.

Describing them as guns is a slight exaggeration Sizey.