News 2024 Paris Olympics

[Val Keating]

 

[giantroo]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/childhood-photos-of-boxer-at-centre-of-olympic-gender-scandal-emerge/news-story/8b1333a63fe99550d39b3d5448dfcd99

 

[giantroo]

Stunning $75k twist in gender boxing saga as rival’s social media post reignites Olympic storm

Stunning $75k twist in gender boxing saga as rival’s social media post reignites Olympic storm

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Dan]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/childhood-photos-of-boxer-at-centre-of-olympic-gender-scandal-emerge/news-story/8b1333a63fe99550d39b3d5448dfcd99

Stunning $75k twist in gender boxing saga as rival’s social media post reignites Olympic storm

Stunning $75k twist in gender boxing saga as rival’s social media post reignites Olympic storm

www.foxsports.com.au

It looks like a lot of people went half cocked in reporting this story.

I’m glad Carini said something because her reaction after the bout and comments didn’t help.

 

[DarwinRoo]

The idiots think that a father in an Islamic country would raise his son as a girl.

 

[giantroo]

Skye Nicolson, who fought for Australia at Tokyo 2020 before turning professional, urged people to “be a lion, not a sheep” and consider the facts before joining the global pile-on.

Aussie world champ lashes Italian boxer for ‘publicity stunt’ against Imane Khelif

Skye Nicolson, who fought for Australia at Tokyo 2020 before turning professional, urged people to “be a lion, not a sheep” and consider the facts before joining the global pile-on.

www.theage.com.au

 

[travelli]

It looks like a lot of people went half cocked in reporting this story.

I’m glad Carini said something because her reaction after the bout and comments didn’t help.

It'll be the first of many apologies I reckon

 

[Val Keating]

It looks like a lot of people went half cocked in reporting this story.

I’m glad Carini said something because her reaction after the bout and comments didn’t help.

She failed a gender test. Shouldn’t be allowed to fight women.

 

[travelli]

She failed a gender test. Shouldn’t be allowed to fight women.

What exactly was that test?

If she went home after these Olympics and decided to have a baby, would she be allowed to be called a woman then?

 

[muttley45]

That girl Saya on the BMX, WOW, pure domination in every heat, and the final, never in doubt at any stage, and such a story to go with it, after watching the swimming this morning, that was the cherry on top.

 

[DarwinRoo]

let’s say for an example by chance someone is born with a penis and has XX chromosomes, is that a man or woman?

I think I know what the TERF idiots will say, which will completely contradict what they think about Imane.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Val Keating]

What exactly was that test?

If she went home after these Olympics and decided to have a baby, would she be allowed to be called a woman then?

She’s a woman, but she has an unfair advantage

 

[travelli]

That girl Saya on the BMX, WOW, pure domination in every heat, and the final, never in doubt at any stage, and such a story to go with it, after watching the swimming this morning, that was the cherry on top.

Great race. Every millisecond is critical in that sport. You have to be perfect to win it

 

[ferball]

What exactly was that test?

If she went home after these Olympics and decided to have a baby, would she be allowed to be called a woman then?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

[ferball]

She’s a woman, but she has an unfair advantage

That's the same for all the best athletes.

Usain Bolt - unfair advantage. Harry Sheezel - unfair advantage. Mike Tyson - unfair advantage. Its called genetics.

 

[krakouers]

 

[travelli]

The teremoaana fight was great. He'd be handy at CHB.

 

[travelli]

She’s a woman, but she has an unfair advantage

She has still been beaten plenty of times. She is not dominating the sport at all.

 

[Val Keating]

That's the same for all the best athletes.

Usain Bolt - unfair advantage. Harry Sheezel - unfair advantage. Mike Tyson - unfair advantage. Its called genetics.

Disagree, she’s half male and because of that she has higher testosterone levels.

 

[Val Keating]

She has still been beaten plenty of times. She is not dominating the sport at all.

Yeah I know. Still don’t think it should be allowed. There was a runner a few years ago that was banned for the same reason.

 

[Val Keating]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

She’s open about being 50/50. She got banned for having higher testosterone last year but the Olympics is ran by a different organisation than world championships.

 

[ferball]

Disagree, she’s half male and because of that she has higher testosterone levels.

There's no official genetic limit on high testosterone for women. Many successful sporting women have higher levels and there are even requirements in some sports for women to take testosterone inhibiting drugs if their levels are "too high" which is ****en ridiculous imo.

The relationship between testosterone levels and sporting performance is complex and not necessarily proportional and the tests that woman failed last year are not transparent or open to checking. So we're basing alot of this on not enough info.

If you're interested in the relationship between sporting performance and testosterone this article is full of links to studies saying its is and it isn't important. It depends on the sport, but often it appears performance is dependent on other factors in the person's endocrine system.

The complicated truth about testosterone’s effect on athletic performance

The debate over whether to allow female athletes with high testosterone to compete with other women has been heated, but not backed by a lot of science. That's because there simply isn't much out there, though that's not to say we can't draw some important conclusions from what we do know.

www.popsci.com

 

[Val Keating]

There's no official genetic limit on high testosterone for women. Many successful sporting women have higher levels and there are even requirements in some sports for women to take testosterone inhibiting drugs if their levels are "too high" which is ****en ridiculous imo.

The relationship between testosterone levels and sporting performance is complex and not necessarily proportional and the tests that woman failed last year are not transparent or open to checking. So we're basing alot of this on not enough info.

If you're interested in the relationship between sporting performance and testosterone this article is full of links to studies saying its is and it isn't important. It depends on the sport, but often it appears performance is dependent on other factors in the person's endocrine system.

The complicated truth about testosterone’s effect on athletic performance

The debate over whether to allow female athletes with high testosterone to compete with other women has been heated, but not backed by a lot of science. That's because there simply isn't much out there, though that's not to say we can't draw some important conclusions from what we do know.

www.popsci.com

There obviously is a limit to high testosterone levels, that’s why she was banned and also how they test for steroid use.

 

[Dan]

She failed a gender test. Shouldn’t be allowed to fight women.

It's not that straight forward.

We're not dealing with a biological man identifying as a woman.