NFL 2024 - Pre-Draft Discussion and Mock Drafts

[aussiedude]

Draft/combine discussion

Current draft order

01. Chicago [via Carolina]
02. Washington
03. New England
04. Arizona
05. LA Chargers
06. NY Giants
07. Tennessee
08. Atlanta
09. Chicago
10. NY Jets
11. Minnesota
12. Denver
13. Las Vegas
14. New Orleans
15. Indianapolis
16. Seattle
17. Jacksonville
18. Cincinnati
19. LA Rams
20. Pittsburgh
21. Miami
22. Philadelphia
23. Minnesota [Via Cleveland-Houston]
24. Dallas
25. Green Bay
26. Tampa Bay
27. Arizona [Via Houston]
28. Buffalo
29. Detroit
30. Baltimore
31. San Francisco
32. Kansas City

 

[Constantgin]

I am opposite of you guys. I don't care if a top prospect performs at combine. Totally understand it why compete when their is only downsides for them hardly any up.

 

[drd23]

Yes, well all know the clock on pro day running events is bogus and heavily favours the player. I kind of get it from a QBs perspective, they want to throw with guys they have a rapport with, not to be made to look bad by guys who they have never thrown a ball to before.

Indy is actually a fast track now (they installed turf that was faster during Covid)

I think the problem is more that they get to do more specific training for drills if they wait another 2-3 weeks until a Pro Day.

Doing drills at weird times the last few years when the NFL tried to make the Combine at prime time thing wouldn't have helped either

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

The Boston Herald’s Doug Kyed reports the Patriots are meeting with LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels and four other quarterbacks at the NFL Scouting Combine.
The other four passers are USC’s Caleb Williams, North Carolina’s Drake Maye, Michigan’s J.J. McCarthy, and Oregon’s Bo Nix. Williams will meet with the Patriots later today while the rest of the group have already met with the New England brass. The Patriots hold the No. 3 overall pick, giving them an opportunity to land one of the top quarterbacks in the class, though they aren’t guaranteed their first choice. Following the seismic shift of Bill Belichick’s departure, now is the perfect time to reset at quarterback as well. Though the Patriots could look to the veteran market for a new passer, it looks like they are a good bet to take a rookie at some point during the draft.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Brock Bowers said he is undecided on whether or not he will workout at the NFL Scouting Combine, saying it’s, “just a personal decision.”
The consensus TE1 of this year’s draft class, fans, and the league have been waiting for nearly two years for Bowers to enter the NFL Draft. Bowers totaled 175 receptions for 2,538 yards and 26 touchdowns during his college career while averaging an impressive 14.5 YPR. While it would be disappointing to see him skip the combine workout, we would still get a chance to see him test at Georgia’s pro day, which is scheduled for March 13th.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

 

[Coops93]

Braden Fiske seems quite the athlete for a DT based on his combine. A little undersized at 6'4" 292lbs, but that's probably not the worst thing given the way the NFL is going with all these spread offenses and mobile QBs. Also means he can be moved all across the line in a 4/3 & 3/4

 

[rumply]

Braden Fiske seems quite the athlete for a DT based on his combine. A little undersized at 6'4" 292lbs, but that's probably not the worst thing given the way the NFL is going with all these spread offenses and mobile QBs. Also means he can be moved all across the line in a 4/3 & 3/4

 

[Coops93]

Elite at everything except size, which isn't exactly bad at 292. Donlad is below 290 even, might even be below 280 and I think he's done alright.

 

[rumply]

Elite at everything except size, which isn't exactly bad at 292. Donlad is below 290 even, might even be below 280 and I think he's done alright.

Yeah not worried about the weight as there's a definite need for these body types in most defensive setups. Killing it at the combine certainly helps the cause tho.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Athleticism completely overrated for DTs, just my opinion.

 

[aussiedude]

Athleticism completely overrated for DTs, just my opinion.

you want strength so they can drop a knee to anchor themselves against the run when facing a double team.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

you want strength so they can drop a knee to anchor themselves against the run when facing a double team.

Yep, power and technique are the keys to look for.

 

[aussiedude]

Fiske has the size of an old school 3-4 DE

 

[aussiedude]

Aaron Rodgers new BFF.

I think this is enough to take him off a few big boards.

 

[Coops93]

Athleticism completely overrated for DTs, just my opinion.

Guys like Donald and Watt would come to mind. I agree it isn't everything, especially 40 times, but I see some value in some of the power and agility ones. 3 cones, broad jump for example, can give you an idea of explosiveness

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Guys like Donald and Watt would come to mind. I agree it isn't everything, especially 40 times, but I see some value in some of the power and agility ones. 3 cones, broad jump for example, can give you an idea of explosiveness

Yeah but their power and technique is great also. You'll get the freak DTs who do it all. Just saying I don't put much stock in athleticism testing by itself.

 

[aussiedude]

Guys like Donald and Watt would come to mind. I agree it isn't everything, especially 40 times, but I see some value in some of the power and agility ones. 3 cones, broad jump for example, can give you an idea of explosiveness

Watt was never a DT. he played inside at times in sub packages but was a DE

 

[Coops93]

Yeah but their power and technique is great also. You'll get the freak DTs who do it all. Just saying I don't put much stock in athleticism testing by itself.

Well no, you shouldn't really do that with any position not just DT. What you're hoping to see is what you see on the screen matches what you see in testing.

I.e. they look explosive on field, then you see in the testing that yes, they really are that powerful. Sort of like a confirmation of what your scouting tells you.

 

[Coops93]

Watt was never a DT. he played inside at times in sub packages but was a DE

Exactly what I mean.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Well no, you shouldn't really do that with any position not just DT. What you're hoping to see is what you see on the screen matches what you see in testing.

I.e. they look explosive on field, then you see in the testing that yes, they really are that powerful. Sort of like a confirmation of what your scouting tells you.

40, 20 time mean nothing for a DT.

 

[aussiedude]

Exactly what I mean.

but you are not using smaller athletic guys at DT more than 5-10 snaps a game. its like a wet dream for IOL with an inside run call.

 

[Coops93]

but you are not using smaller athletic guys at DT more than 5-10 snaps a game. its like a wet dream for IOL with an inside run call.

Donald is

 

[Coops93]

40, 20 time mean nothing for a DT.

Agreed

 

[aussiedude]

Donald is

He plays more like an DE. which is why the Rams have a NT. He isnt getting the inside double teams. He lines up over a guard or the B gap

 

[Coops93]

He plays more like an DE. which is why the Rams have a NT. He isnt getting the inside double teams. He lines up over a guard or the B gap

Suggesting he doesn't get double teamed inside is an interesting take considering he's the most double-teamed player in the league