Preview 2024 Round 01 Thursday March 7 v Melbourne 7:20 @ SCG
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Grand Uncle Horace
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Amartey for all his limitations is a better mark and kick for goal than Ladhams. The latter will be a liability on the fwd line. Watching him in the aressies last year it was clear the guy lacks a lot of forward craft. (Was bloody selfish as well)
If a Ladhams plays surely he gets no more than 16-20% game time.
I think we must be wary about the pre season matches, the last of which was played in crap conditions.
If a Ladhams plays surely he gets no more than 16-20% game time.
I think we must be wary about the pre season matches, the last of which was played in crap conditions.
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Do people not feel like, despite being the less convincing player of the two, Amartey would complement Ladhams better than McLean would?
Or is that just me?
I feel like McLean & Ladhams together would be very slow and lumbersome.
Or is that just me?
I feel like McLean & Ladhams together would be very slow and lumbersome.
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surely you have observed Ladhams playing up forward?
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Yeah I'm not sold on it at all. But in the event the coaches decide they really want Ladhams to play to help Grundy combat Max Gawn, and one of the forwards has to go to accommodate this, surely it is McLean and not Amartey?
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Why would we play someone on the bench for 80% of the game as. Grundy needs the odd breather.
I’d prefer a smaller forward line.
Too many talls seems to result in bombing - which is doom against May and Lever.
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I would rather we play a smart KPF who is tough and can ruck a bit…his numbers are way better than Reid’s.
Doss will put physical but fair pressure onGawn on the 3 or 4 minutes a quarter he’d be needed for that role.
Ladhams lack of discipline would also see a couple of frees to big Max.
Doss will put physical but fair pressure onGawn on the 3 or 4 minutes a quarter he’d be needed for that role.
Ladhams lack of discipline would also see a couple of frees to big Max.
It depends. If we go into this game with three tall forwards (whichever three) I think they’ll be tasked (maybe on a rotational basis) with keeping May and Lever honest. That means they need to be enough of a threat to warrant decently close attention from the key defenders, but that the measure of their role will not be in scores so much as reducing the defenders’ intercept marks.
If May and Lever are forced to keep at least one eye on a tall forward, that might open things up for the third tall forward and our mediums and smalls to create more scoring.
So it might come down to who can be best trusted to stick to such a task. I’m pretty sure Hayden has done that kind of role. I can’t recall specific instances of Logan or Joel doing it, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t. I confess I don’t have much faith in Ladhams to take on any role that requires concentration and discipline.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the talls being very easy to rebound against with their lack of follow-up pressure at ground level if McLean & Ladhams are in the same team, but you've raised a really good point there re potential defensive roles they could do, and I completely agree that McLean has done them before. I've often thought that although he may not always be an offensive weapon, I've rarely seen his opponent be a major factor in games, either.
I suppose the lack of potential pressure the talls would offer could be alleviated by the addition of Fox, who I quite liked the look of alongside Wicks as two (impossible to tell apart from afar) agents of chaos inside 50.
There's also the chance I'm inflating Amartey's ability to provide pressure. I just feel like I've seen him get to more contests and chase, tackle, harass etc. more than any of our other talls.
Nope. With McLean you get 120 min effort and all the little things. But picking Ladhams IMO would be shooting ourselves in the foot. Lever could zone off him all night.
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He wouldn't play on Lever , maybe it's Hayward to Lever
Across his career, Armatey averages 60.5% ToG (according to Footywire).
That’s just not good enough.
McLean has his limitations - but he’s robust.
Armatey must surely impact negatively on rotations with such a low ToG.
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I've seen Ladhams produce more chasedown tackles than McLean and Amartey have combined. Also forgetting in a couple games early last year, Ladhams looked fairly competent as a forward...was just let down by some kicking.
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Also they are very happy with Mcinerney , so he's in
Amartey arrived at the club with a poor endurance base (for an AFL player) and I think injuries have prevented him from having a decent pre-season since he got here. Until this pre-season just passed, that is. We can’t expect him to have turned into Errol over the space of six months, but I am hopeful we might see some small signs of improved endurance.
The pre-season matches have been frustrating because we’ve really not had much of a chance to see what’s changed or improved. The first one was ok, but the second should have been the real warm up. The AFL aren’t to blame for the awful conditions in which that match was played, but the eight clubs who will participate in Opening Round don’t have the luxury of a week’s break between the last practice game and the first real game. I think we have the shortest gap of all eight clubs, and when you combine that with the humidity of last Thursday, we are left with very little idea of what to expect from the team this Thursday.
The pre-season matches have been frustrating because we’ve really not had much of a chance to see what’s changed or improved. The first one was ok, but the second should have been the real warm up. The AFL aren’t to blame for the awful conditions in which that match was played, but the eight clubs who will participate in Opening Round don’t have the luxury of a week’s break between the last practice game and the first real game. I think we have the shortest gap of all eight clubs, and when you combine that with the humidity of last Thursday, we are left with very little idea of what to expect from the team this Thursday.
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In fairness though, he's been subbed either on or off in over a fifth of his games over his career, which probably hurts his TOG average. But no doubt he definitely needs to become a constant and reliable contributor this year.
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Feel like Melbourne are going to be galvanised with a point to prove , maybe pre game jitters but fear a 0-2 start
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Yes you'd expect Melbourne to come out firing after the off-season they've had. But what does a 'firing' Melbourne look like?
AMartey has kicked nearly all of his goals in the first half - a sign of his lack of fitness base. If he's had a big preseason he could be a real beast for us this year
AMartey has kicked nearly all of his goals in the first half - a sign of his lack of fitness base. If he's had a big preseason he could be a real beast for us this year
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