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Maybe. Maybe it's the parent in me that's just concerned he's taking an unnecessary risk.
There is also the possibility that Murph just has what used to be called, a glass jaw. In boxing, some guys drop easier than other's. I reckon Murph, the club, his doctors and the AFL are right behind him. If Murph plays on, there's a good chance his brain scans didn't reveal the same results as Brayshaw. Who knows bro but I reckon will be the one who really knows if it's time
 
I wonder if the AFL have made him sign some sort of waiver?, or are they even allowed to do that. There would a lot going on behind closed doors I would imagine. ATEOTD, it's his body and his choice and I'm sure the club is all over it. The guy is a gun defender and I would be very happy if he comes back and plays till he retires
They've had lawyers etc on sen, etc talking about waivers & they've all said that wouldn't or doesn't currently happen.

The AFL, the clubs, the players, the medical staff, etc would all need to act within the current guidelines & protocols based on the best advice currently available.

Perhaps they could/should ensure players who have had repeated concussions get regular brain scans to notice any changes which would prompt a retirement like Brayshaw's.
 

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Murph actually passed a concussion test on Grand Final day and was cleared to go back on. He made the call himself to stay off. That seems to have been missed by a lot of people.
Exactly. He seems incredibly aware of his situation & what's best for him & the team. That's why I'm respecting his decision whichever way it goes.
 
They've had lawyers etc on sen, etc talking about waivers & they've all said that wouldn't or doesn't currently happen.

The AFL, the clubs, the players, the medical staff, etc would all need to act within the current guidelines & protocols based on the best advice currently available.

Perhaps they could/should ensure players who have had repeated concussions get regular brain scans to notice any changes which would prompt a retirement like Brayshaw's.
I reckon Murph's all over it. He'll make the call either way
 
There is also the possibility that Murph just has what used to be called, a glass jaw. In boxing, some guys drop easier than other's. I reckon Murph, the club, his doctors and the AFL are right behind him. If Murph plays on, there's a good chance his brain scans didn't reveal the same results as Brayshaw. Who knows bro but I reckon will be the one who really knows if it's time

Hope that's the case

As much as I'd want Murphy back out there, it would be tragic to see him cop a career ending concussion that possibly does some long term damage to his health
 
There is also the possibility that Murph just has what used to be called, a glass jaw. In boxing, some guys drop easier than other's. I reckon Murph, the club, his doctors and the AFL are right behind him. If Murph plays on, there's a good chance his brain scans didn't reveal the same results as Brayshaw. Who knows bro but I reckon will be the one who really knows if it's time
Whilst the science is not definitive, boxers have for a very long time worked on strengthening their neck muscles to help minimise / prevent one of the more common mechanisms (in that sport and others) that leads to concussion. Reckon Murph should add some Mike Tyson-esque neck training to his training / recovery regime. He's been all arms & limbs since he started and needed to work on his core strength early doors ..

"Retrospective analysis of boxing knockouts has revealed that they typically are caused by a hook to the side of the jaw which causes a rotation of the head in the horizontal plane. Uppercuts to the chin may also cause unconsciousness, while straight punches to the face are unlikely to do so (6). This explains the term “glass jaw,” which for over a 100 years have referred to a boxer that is easily knocked out by a punch to the jaw. The weakness is, however, most likely not the jaw itself, but rather results from an inability of the neck muscles to reduce head movement or a failure of the boxer to notice the incoming strike."

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Whilst the science is not definitive, boxers have for a very long time worked on strengthening their neck muscles to help minimise / prevent one of the more common mechanisms (in that sport and others) that leads to concussion. Reckon Murph should add some Mike Tyson-esque neck training to his training / recovery regime. He's been all arms & limbs since he started and needed to work on his core strength early doors ..

"Retrospective analysis of boxing knockouts has revealed that they typically are caused by a hook to the side of the jaw which causes a rotation of the head in the horizontal plane. Uppercuts to the chin may also cause unconsciousness, while straight punches to the face are unlikely to do so (6). This explains the term “glass jaw,” which for over a 100 years have referred to a boxer that is easily knocked out by a punch to the jaw. The weakness is, however, most likely not the jaw itself, but rather results from an inability of the neck muscles to reduce head movement or a failure of the boxer to notice the incoming strike."

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It doesn’t do much to stop the CTE which is impacted by head trauma, not always concussive.
 
Whilst the science is not definitive, boxers have for a very long time worked on strengthening their neck muscles to help minimise / prevent one of the more common mechanisms (in that sport and others) that leads to concussion. Reckon Murph should add some Mike Tyson-esque neck training to his training / recovery regime. He's been all arms & limbs since he started and needed to work on his core strength early doors ..

"Retrospective analysis of boxing knockouts has revealed that they typically are caused by a hook to the side of the jaw which causes a rotation of the head in the horizontal plane. Uppercuts to the chin may also cause unconsciousness, while straight punches to the face are unlikely to do so (6). This explains the term “glass jaw,” which for over a 100 years have referred to a boxer that is easily knocked out by a punch to the jaw. The weakness is, however, most likely not the jaw itself, but rather results from an inability of the neck muscles to reduce head movement or a failure of the boxer to notice the incoming strike."

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Back in the day, we used to do an exercise where you stand up and bend forward until your head rested on a pillow type thing, then you move your neck back and forth to strengthen all the neck muscles.
 
Back in the day, we used to do an exercise where you stand up and bend forward until your head rested on a pillow type thing, then you move your neck back and forth to strengthen all the neck muscles.

Anything like this?



Sam is right about rotational forces being the most likely to cause concussion, by the way. Not really known why, but presumed to be due to the neck musculature being less able to resist those forces as compared with front on/side on.
 
Training update: March 5th.

Murphy started some contact work with drills, which was pleasing to see. I saw him late Monday night at the club, when the VFL boys were training and he went inside with a couple women. I wondered what he was doing there, but whatever it was, it was a good sign. Maybe getting the green light to start the next phase of his recovery.

He didnt do any match sim, but did a fair bit of contact drills. While the others did match play, he and Parker did some ball work, then did some running drills toward the end of training.

Just changed my entire visualization of “contact work”
 

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Easiest and most accurate description is:

“What if was drafted Papely “.

No he’s not Papely. But he’s the absolute closest thing in the league.

Unbelievably underrated . Just watch the second/ third/ fourth efforts and get ready to shake your head.

He’s the most underrated offseason pickup. 100% suits our gamestyle.
Legit makes us better.
Hopefully hasn’t got the Papley ****wit after goal celebration thing going.
 
Just changed my entire visualization of “contact work”

1v1, physical pressure drills. Contest drills is what the club uses as contact work.
More than he has done before. It’s a good step forward.


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Anything like this?



Sam is right about rotational forces being the most likely to cause concussion, by the way. Not really known why, but presumed to be due to the neck musculature being less able to resist those forces as compared with front on/side on.

The other way round. I couldn't imagine doing it with my back arched
 
Anything like this?



Sam is right about rotational forces being the most likely to cause concussion, by the way. Not really known why, but presumed to be due to the neck musculature being less able to resist those forces as compared with front on/side on.

Check out F1 drivers. Have incredibly strong neck muscles.
 
1v1, physical pressure drills. Contest drills is what the club uses as contact work.
More than he has done before. It’s a good step forward.


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Hi Jen 😊 , anything catch your eye that may suggest Ash.J gets a game ?
 
Hi Jen 😊 , anything catch your eye that may suggest Ash.J gets a game ?
50/50 chance. We'll see tomorrow morning.
But I'm not sure which way they'll go. Do they go with one of him or reef. Do they go with neither and just use cox/dc up forward and bring in fin. It'll be an interesting one.
 
Whilst the science is not definitive, boxers have for a very long time worked on strengthening their neck muscles to help minimise / prevent one of the more common mechanisms (in that sport and others) that leads to concussion. Reckon Murph should add some Mike Tyson-esque neck training to his training / recovery regime. He's been all arms & limbs since he started and needed to work on his core strength early doors ..

"Retrospective analysis of boxing knockouts has revealed that they typically are caused by a hook to the side of the jaw which causes a rotation of the head in the horizontal plane. Uppercuts to the chin may also cause unconsciousness, while straight punches to the face are unlikely to do so (6). This explains the term “glass jaw,” which for over a 100 years have referred to a boxer that is easily knocked out by a punch to the jaw. The weakness is, however, most likely not the jaw itself, but rather results from an inability of the neck muscles to reduce head movement or a failure of the boxer to notice the incoming strike."

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Did Gladstone Small ever get concussed?
 
50/50 chance. We'll see tomorrow morning.
But I'm not sure which way they'll go. Do they go with one of him or reef. Do they go with neither and just use cox/dc up forward and bring in fin. It'll be an interesting one.
Gut feel says “neither Reef or AJ” selected with Cox to spend more time fwd with Checkers & hope together with Bobby,Shoota & Billy they all hit the scoreboard hard 🤞🏻 to cover the loss of Howe up the other end.
“Carn the Pies” ! 😀
 
Did Gladstone Small ever get concussed?
i see what you did there bill hader GIF
 
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