Training 2024 training updates.

[ElliottsMaggies]

A tall forward for me is GOLD if he is an out and out superstar otherwise I'd rather 6 cracking players up forward (which I reckon we have)

I'm not fussed about a really tall forward, never have been. Seems like the teams that do have them rely on them too much. If they get injured, suspended or lose confidence, it leaves the club stuffed without options.

Much prefer our system of having lots of players...small, tall, any position scoring goals. Keeps it unpredictable, exciting & a major headache for the opposition.

 

[Jen2310]

Question for Jen (or other track watchers):

Do you think Sofonidis has struggled to adapt to the playing style the coaches are insisting on?

(Just wondering why he's consistently described as being quiet, or words to that effect).

Not sure, but he does struggle to get involved in the play, half attempts. Work ethic not as strong as it should be.
I'd like to see him actively run down the oppositon, or find the ball more often.

 

[JuniorB]

That's the best sign of all for Reef - shows intent and some serious leg speed to catch Allan who is pretty quick

From the video, it didn't look like Ed was really motoring.
Good signs from Reef, in any case.

 

[Hardas]

Not sure, but he does struggle to get involved in the play, half attempts. Work ethic not as strong as it should be.
I'd like to see him actively run down the oppositon, or find the ball more often.

It must be a big step up for him.
Hopefully he's up to the challenge, but it's kind of now or never in mid-January.

 

[Jen2310]

It must be a big step up for him.
Hopefully he's up to the challenge, but it's kind of now or never in mid-January.

it is a big step up. But he's the bottom of the pack imo. But hasnt made enough progress. Maybe he is just one of those players more suited to local It happens.
He would really need to play VFL, a year I'd say to get used to that level.

 

[Apples]

Thanks for the update legend.

What is it about Bytel you like?

I personally like the idea of giving spots to ready-made players that have been in an AFL environment before.


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[Apples]

There's lots of ways it could go. Lippa is part of the equation. So too are the other fringe guys like Reef, Harrison, Ryan. We have a lot of flexibility within the team. We don't need to bring someone in specifically for midfield rotations and could easily just go with JDG, Nick, Mitchell, Pendles, Crisp, Lippa. McCreery another they have spoken of in terms of midfield rotations.

So if any of last year's fringe youngsters really puts their hand up in any role we could give an opportunity to them raher than someone specifically for midfield rotations.

I'd love to see McCreery in there too, but some say he's a bit soft.

 

[Apples]

It must be a big step up for him.
Hopefully he's up to the challenge, but it's kind of now or never in mid-January.

Of the blokes in contention, from what I have seen, he seems the least likely to me.

 

[Apples]

I'm not fussed about a really tall forward, never have been. Seems like the teams that do have them rely on them too much. If they get injured, suspended or lose confidence, it leaves the club stuffed without options.

Much prefer our system of having lots of players...small, tall, any position scoring goals. Keeps it unpredictable, exciting & a major headache for the opposition.

I think McStay showed just how important a good, big forward can be. In the later part of the season he was huge for us. Big loss.

 

[Jen2310]

Beau was great this morning, snagged the first couple goals.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I think McStay showed just how important a good, big forward can be. In the later part of the season he was huge for us. Big loss.

Yeah, I agree ..but I'm not thinking of McStay as the super tall forward type that others seem to crave. I was talking more about the King's & the 200+ forwards that many say we need.

Dan is more like a Checkers type for me. And he's not one dimensional like many of the super tall types.

 

[Sea fog]

It must be a big step up for him.
Hopefully he's up to the challenge, but it's kind of now or never in mid-January.

So with all this talk about him, was he touted as being really good? Judging by reports we read the others we have vying for a spot on the list look superior.

 

[Jen2310]

So with all this talk about him, was he touted as being really good? Judging by reports we read the others we have vying for a spot on the list look superior.

Looking back now, expectations probably should have been lowered, given the comp he was starring in. Big difference between VAFA to VFL, less alone AFL.

 

[Hardas]

So with all this talk about him, was he touted as being really good? Judging by reports we read the others we have vying for a spot on the list look superior.

Certainly the least experienced, with all the others at least used to state league comp.
I guess he is more the speculative option to see if he is up to it.

 

[TradeDraft]

Not sure, but he does struggle to get involved in the play, half attempts. Work ethic not as strong as it should be.
I'd like to see him actively run down the oppositon, or find the ball more often.

Might be finding out why AFL Teams not looked at him in the Past

 

[magpiewarrior]

Reef is the exact same height as Charlie Curnow at 194cm, 4kgs lighter, both are strong and mobile

At 21 Charlie had his breakout year with 34 goals from 20 games

This is Reefs year!

No mention of weight allowed any more, shame on you. Cmon, get with rhe program.

 

[magpiewarrior]

...certainly not boring.

Isn’t that what augers do?

 

[Apex36]

Interesting how so many bang on about needing a really tall forward..I always assumed Curnow was taller than that.

As for the weight, who cares, hey? We don't even know if that's accurate for either player.

Let's hope Dan's unfortunate injury provides us with a silver lining, giving Reef & Ash the opportunity to shine.

Curnow plays taller than his 194cm because of his go go gadget arms and freaky athleticism. I’m not sure Reef could ever replicate how he plays, but I also feel like he could be a damaging forward/mid once he gets his endurance right, which is slowly but surely improving as each season passes. I’m excited to see how he goes this year.

 

[Hardas]

No mention of weight allowed any more, shame on you. Cmon, get with rhe program.

Can't believe they're still getting away with mentioning height!

Thoughts & prayers for all the players self-conscious of being too short or tall.

And while we're at it: do we really need to know their ages or star signs?

 

[Daicosian silk]

I'm not fussed about a really tall forward, never have been. Seems like the teams that do have them rely on them too much. If they get injured, suspended or lose confidence, it leaves the club stuffed without options.

Much prefer our system of having lots of players...small, tall, any position scoring goals. Keeps it unpredictable, exciting & a major headache for the opposition.

I like to think of it as a Moneyball approach to kicking a winning/competitive score. If you can get to 14-16 goals by 1-4 goals from each of your tall, medium and small forwards and another 2-4 from your mids then you’re not relying heavily on a star tall forward to kick a bag every week.
And it’s not very often that tall forwards kick a bag in a grand final due to the quality of the defenders and the pressure on the ball carrier. Carlton rely fairly heavily on Charlie Curnow and he ended up struggling to hit the scoreboard in the finals kicking just the 3 goals in total.
Much better to have a high quality group of forwards that can each contribute a few goals as well as providing defensive forward pressure. Goal kicking kids like Sidey, Crisp and Jordy are handy too

 

[Daicosian silk]

I like to think of it as a Moneyball approach to kicking a winning/competitive score. If you can get to 14-16 goals by 1-4 goals from each of your tall, medium and small forwards and another 2-4 from your mids then you’re not relying heavily on a star tall forward to kick a bag every week.
And it’s not very often that tall forwards kick a bag in a grand final due to the quality of the defenders and the pressure on the ball carrier. Carlton rely fairly heavily on Charlie Curnow and he ended up struggling to hit the scoreboard in the finals kicking just the 3 goals in total.
Much better to have a high quality group of forwards that can each contribute a few goals as well as providing defensive forward pressure. Goal kicking kids like Sidey, Crisp and Jordy are handy too

*mids not kids!

 

[Hardas]

*mids not kids!

I'm sure they won't mind being called kids.

 

[Mollythedolly]

it is a big step up. But he's the bottom of the pack imo. But hasnt made enough progress. Maybe he is just one of those players more suited to local It happens.
He would really need to play VFL, a year I'd say to get used to that level.

While match sim will always be a consideration, I don’t think we can rule any of the train-on players out just yet. Coaches will be looking for traits, rate of improvement, potential upside, positional/role fit (short and longer term) within the squad against their identified list deficits. I’m happy to be patient and let the process play out.

 

[Jen2310]

While match sim will always be a consideration, I don’t think we can rule any of the train-on players out just yet. Coaches will be looking for traits, rate of improvement, potential upside, positional/role fit (short and longer term) within the squad against their identified list deficits. I’m happy to be patient and let the process play out.

Oh I know, it'll be more than training. I'm just not seeing anything that would make him a top 2 contract wise. Skipworth did say it'll come down to list needs.

 

[manicpie]

While match sim will always be a consideration, I don’t think we can rule any of the train-on players out just yet. Coaches will be looking for traits, rate of improvement, potential upside, positional/role fit (short and longer term) within the squad against their identified list deficits. I’m happy to be patient and let the process play out.

I was about to say the same thing. They wouldn't be expecting someone like sof to star in everything this pre season and probably are happy to take him based on what they are looking for. I doubt they would even expect him to play much senior footy this year