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Well the below is probably right…

The document labels the FBI a “bloated, arrogant, increasingly lawless organization” and calls for drastic overhauls of this and other federal agencies,.

The pr0n thing is an interesting one. No doubt the pr0n industry is doing harm (along with gambling, tabbaco, alcohol and drugs), but not sure how they reconcile that with the whole increasing personal freedom thing (classic religion really).

Trump has repeatedly stated that abortion should be up to the states as far as I’m aware.

What in this project 25 doc worries people. Seems like a bunch of white Christian folk have compiled their Christmas list. Do people think Trump is going to push all of this through.
 

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Few thoughts on your predictions above.
Just to tug on a few threads in this majestic tapestry of bullshit :tearsofjoy:

there will be no change in abortion laws as a result of Trump
Riiiiiight. There will be no change, indeed there has been no change, in the US on abortion laws as a result of Trump, nice one lol :drunk:

mass shootings are a result of decreased societal trust, lessening standards of personal responsibility, increased prevalence of mental illness not the number or access to guns
Mass shootings not due to access to guns, gotcha. Just mental health issues, wow I didn't actually realise mental illness only exists in the US, the more you know! :tearsofjoy:

Never mind the fact that Republicans have no interest in addressing mental illness issues anyway

 
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Well the below is probably right…

The document labels the FBI a “bloated, arrogant, increasingly lawless organization” and calls for drastic overhauls of this and other federal agencies,.

The pr0n thing is an interesting one. No doubt the pr0n industry is doing harm (along with gambling, tabbaco, alcohol and drugs), but not sure how they reconcile that with the whole increasing personal freedom thing (classic religion really).

Trump has repeatedly stated that abortion should be up to the states as far as I’m aware.

What in this project 25 doc worries people. Seems like a bunch of white Christian folk have compiled their Christmas list. Do people think Trump is going to push all of this through.

The GOP has released a new policy platform since 2016. So we literally only have sound bites from Trump as to what he intends to do. Usually with no detail as to how he might do it.


According to this article the GOP are planning on re-writing their platform to be more concise, which sounds fine. But they've also flagged the previous policy had words the Democrats used against them. So my guess is it'll had fewer words, with limited detail as to how anything will be enacted. Suitably vague enough to provide headlines, much like the slogan Make America Great Again. No idea why it isn't great now, was great in the past but is no longer, or will suddenly be great again in the future.

Top advisers to Donald Trump are plotting an overhaul of the Republican Party platform that will dramatically slash its size and refocus the GOP around the former president’s agenda for a second term.

“Publishing an unnecessarily verbose treatise will provide more fuel for our opponent’s fire of misinformation and misrepresentation to voters,”
 
But none of the above is close to reality. You've cherry picked an organization and then somehow tied Trump's entire platform to it.
I don't think anyone has heard of 'Project2025' save for some conspiracy theorists on Twitter.

Translation: “I don’t like your answer and I don’t want to think.”
 
But none of the above is close to reality. You've cherry picked an organization and then somehow tied Trump's entire platform to it.
I don't think anyone has heard of 'Project2025' save for some conspiracy theorists on Twitter.
Sorry, you'll need to step me through how referencing Trump's verified quote of "other than day one" in response to being asked if he'll be a dictator isn't close to reality :drunk:

Another quote from the same article;
The former president, who has long expressed regard for authoritarian leaders and the power they wield, is now vowing vengeance and retribution as he outlines a second-term agenda marked by an unprecedented expansion of executive power, unparalleled interference in the justice system, and a massive purge of civil servants.

Indeed, hours before his remarks were aired, a longtime ally who is widely expected to serve in a top national security role if Trump returns to the White House vowed to target journalists in a second Trump term.

“We’re going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections,” said Kash Patel, even though numerous federal and local officials, a long list of courts, top former campaign staffers and even Trump’s own attorney general have all said there is no evidence of the fraud he alleges.
Seems like a fair bit of overlap there with the Project 2025 stuff, no?
 
'By the way, I'm proud to be, as I said, the first vice president, first black woman... to serve with a black president. Proud to be involved of the first black woman on the Supreme Court. There's so much that we can do because, look... we're the United States of America.'

Lets hope he doesn't mix up Iran and Israel.

Nooooo… that’s surely not what he said?!
 
Just to tug on a few threads in this majestic tapestry of bullshit :tearsofjoy:


Riiiiiight. There will be no change, indeed there has been no change, in the US on abortion laws as a result of Trump, nice one lol :drunk:


Mass shootings not due to access to guns, gotcha. Just mental health issues wow I didn't actually realise mental illness only exists in the US, the more you know! :tearsofjoy:

Never mind the fact that Republicans have no interest in addressing mental illness issues anyway


There has been no real change on abortion laws and I'm not sure what it has to do with Trump anyway given he was not in power when RvW was overturned.

In any case, Trump is hardly a bible thumper. He has consistently said abortion laws should be left to the states so RvW is inconsequential anyway.
 
But none of the above is close to reality. You've cherry picked an organization and then somehow tied Trump's entire platform to it.
I don't think anyone has heard of 'Project2025' save for some conspiracy theorists on Twitter.



 
There has been no real change on abortion laws and I'm not sure what it has to do with Trump anyway given he was not in power when RvW was overturned.

In any case, Trump is hardly a bible thumper. He has consistently said abortion laws should be left to the states so RvW is inconsequential anyway.
Surely I don't need to step you through the mechanics of SC appointments? Surely!??

The man himself disagrees with you and FlowersByIrene on this one in any case

 

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There has been no real change on abortion laws and I'm not sure what it has to do with Trump anyway given he was not in power when RvW was overturned.

In any case, Trump is hardly a bible thumper. He has consistently said abortion laws should be left to the states so RvW is inconsequential anyway.

This idea that everything should just be left to the individual States; how long before Texas and California decide 'you know what, we have nothing in common and we're going to go our own way'.
 
Surely I don't need to step you through the mechanics of SC appointments? Surely!??

The man himself disagrees with you and FlowersByIrene on this one in any case

So he is now responsible for every decision the SC makes?
My understanding is that RvW was overturned on some technical legal issue anyway.
 
Trump: "This is what I'm going to do"
Trump supporter: "He didn't mean it that way."

Biden: " Im a black woman....... grapple ontario dosunit montyvideo black <Unintelligible dribble>..............we beat medicare!"

Biden supporter: " He's just having a bad day, he's as sharp as a tack"
 
This idea that everything should just be left to the individual States; how long before Texas and California decide 'you know what, we have nothing in common and we're going to go our own way'.
The cartels would take over Texas in a nano second if they secede… let alone go completely broke without federal aid they can keep whinging that they should be independent but it will never happen
 
My understanding is that RvW was overturned on some technical legal issue anyway.

From memory it was based on an interpretation of the constitution*, that is totally at odds with the interpretation used to determine the President is above the law.

Stacking the court with pretty hard-right conversatives has resulted in... hard-right conservative rulings happening. Keep in mind these are non-elected positions that are deeply impactful on the laws and lives of American citizens, which are life-long appointments. A number of the Justices (Clarence Thomas I'm looking at you) are openly taking 'gifts' and throwing out favourable rulings. There appears to be no legal consistency in how they're arriving at those rulings, which is deeply problematic.

Once again, Trump showed a total and utter contempt for how things have 'usually' been done in the American system and appointed his people.

Which is pretty much what he's told us he wants to do if he's back in power. Competence is far less relevant than loyalty.

* It's been a which since I read the ruling, could be confusing it with another one e.g. gun rights.
 
Seems like you are projecting a persons views onto Trump and then trying to twist that onto this insane Project 2025 stuff.
A person Trump loves who was part of his administration previously and is widely tipped to be again.

More, direct from Trump and his campaign, here;
Trump would try to strip tens of thousands of career employees of their civil service protections. That way, they could be fired as he seeks to “totally obliterate the deep state.”

He would try to accomplish that by reissuing a 2020 executive order known as “Schedule F.” That would allow him to reclassify masses of employees, with a particular focus, he has said, on “corrupt bureaucrats who have weaponized our justice system” and “corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus.”
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Beyond the firings, he wants to crack down on government officials who leak to reporters. He also wants to require that federal employees pass a new civil service test.
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He would target people who are legally living in the United States but harbor “jihadist sympathies” and revoke the student visas of those who espouse anti-American and antisemitic views.

I'm sure the identification of "corrupt actors", “jihadist sympathies”, "anti-American" and "antisemitic views" would all be ship shape and accurate as presented by the flunkies he wants to stack the justice system with, no probs at all there lol

Good move avoiding responding to the dictator for 1 day stuff by the way, thats a bit harder to explain away isn't it. Be honest, you didn't know he said that until just now did you :tearsofjoy:
 
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From memory it was based on an interpretation of the constitution*, that is totally at odds with the interpretation used to determine the President is above the law.

Stacking the court with pretty hard-right conversatives has resulted in... hard-right conservative rulings happening. Keep in mind these are non-elected positions that are deeply impactful on the laws and lives of American citizens, which are life-long appointments.

Once again, Trump showed a total and utter contempt for how things have 'usually' been done in the American system and appointed his people.

Which is pretty much what he's told us he wants to do if he's back in power. Competence is far less relevant than loyalty.

* It's been a which since I read the ruling.
Again with this 'hard-right' business.
How are they 'hard-right' and what distinguishes them from run of the mill 'right-leaning' people?

And you are living in dream-land regarding SC appointees. They have always been appointed along party lines. I don't necessarily agree with it but understand why it happens as it is more and more being used to determine political issues.
 
A person Trump loves who was part of his administration previously and widely tipped to be again.

More, direct from Trump and his campaign, here;


I'm sure the identification of “jihadist sympathies”, "anti-American" and "antisemitic views" would all be ship shape and accurate as presented by the flunkies he wants to stack the justice system with, no probs at all there.

Good move avoiding responding to the dictator for 1 day stuff by the way, thats a bit harder to explain away isn't it. Be honest, you didn't know he said that until just now did you :tearsofjoy:
That is not direct from Trump and his campaign.
It is an opinion of the AP reporter who wrote it. She has taken a policy and then extrapolated it out to make it sound as scary as possible.
 
In order to make a diagnosis of dementia, ideally the person has a full mental health and neurocognitive assessment, a neuropsychological assessment and at least an MRI Brain.

The White House is emphatic that the Presidents medical team do not think he needs any of these assessments or basic cog screening.... (of course they would!).

So if we take their word (Which i don't think you should), he hasn't even had a basic screening MMSE/MOCA/RUDAS etc (Probably has but the results are not great).
The debate was a bad day. The 2 years prior are cheap fakes.

He did answer all the questions.
 

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