USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Biden II

[Pakenhamsaint]

The idea that Trump is somehow out to help the common man is perhaps the most bizarre part of the whole right wing argument.

He's just a salesman selling hope to people who think they've been screwed over.

 

[faible]

He's just a salesman selling hope to people who think they've been screwed over.

I get, I really do get it for the 2016 election. He was an outsider - politics wise, certainly not wealth and power wise - that offered something different.

Now he’s known. It’s not an excuse anymore.

Somewhat ironically, all these conservative types so deathly afraid of communism are getting deeply ****ed over by capitalism and are diving headfirst in to voting for a President that has spent their time trying to undermine every element of democracy.

 

[_Mike_]

One thing Trump had going for him was that during his term inflation was under control, in comparison to other presidents

 

[MarcMaverick]

One thing Trump had going for him was that during his term inflation was under control, in comparison to other presidents

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Under Biden, its tripled in almost the same span.

 

[_Mike_]

Under Biden, its tripled in almost the same span.

Yeah I didn’t know it had risen by that much

I will say in hindsight it would have been better for the US to have trump serve a second successive term. He’d be on his way out in January along with the madness

 

[MarcMaverick]

Yeah I didn’t know it had risen by that much

I will say in hindsight it would have been better for the US to have trump serve a second successive term. He’d be on his way out in January along with the madness

I reckon that if the US/Dems were willing to play the long game that they should have waited until this year and have a younger candidate for POTUS. That way, as you said, Trump and his madness would be out of office next year. Unfortunately, here we are: Trump Biden 2. Also unfortunately, that would mean that if Trump takes office, they'd have to wait until 2028 at the earliest.

Consequence of short-term gain for long-term pain.

 

[peetoo]

Yeah I didn’t know it had risen by that much

I will say in hindsight it would have been better for the US to have trump serve a second successive term. He’d be on his way out in January along with the madness

And if he gets back in, there’s a get out of jail card to play too

Should Biden pre empt this and cancel elections? There’s a good chance incumbent trump would

 

[Blue1980]

One thing Trump had going for him was that during his term inflation was under control, in comparison to other presidents

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Almost like there was a world wide trend of inflation increasing post covid spending

 

[Cooldude]

I see people are still trying to credit Trump with shit he didn't do after all these years

 

[CrowdedHouse]

Almost like there was a world wide trend of inflation increasing post covid spending

Bingo!

And like the poster who pointed out that inflation was more under control with Trump, looking closer at the stats, and you see it was lower under Obama. So, in fact, inflation was increasing by a third under Trump, then Covid ensured whoever was President in the next term was going to have a big deficit and inflation problem - regardless of party or ideology.

 

[Royces Hart]

Trump is always just a victim of bad luck and timing.

Who could forget him refuting his record increase in national debt by saying that they were just about to start paying it down quickly but then Biden got in.

Sounds legit.

 

[magpie_marty]

He's just a salesman selling hope to people who think they've been screwed over.

Thats all Trump has done doing business you only have to look at his failures,
Casinos
University
Trump steaks
Trump water
Just a short list before the Apprentice came along.

Even now the last few months his selling Trump shoes and also a bible,not to mention nft cards its bizarre.
Must be money in it just like truth social lol

*Edit I went a bit off track but if Biden or Trump are the best candidates for President of the USA somethings wrong with there system in my opinion.

 

[beez]

I reckon that if the US/Dems were willing to play the long game that they should have waited until this year and have a younger candidate for POTUS. That way, as you said, Trump and his madness would be out of office next year. Unfortunately, here we are: Trump Biden 2. Also unfortunately, that would mean that if Trump takes office, they'd have to wait until 2028 at the earliest.

Consequence of short-term gain for long-term pain.

Wow.

You could say this shit on CNN as a Republican voice and Kasie Hunt would nod along in agreement with you.

 

[beez]

One thing Trump had going for him was that during his term inflation was under control, in comparison to other presidents

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Trump supporters claiming inflation was better under Trump are just as disingenuous as Biden supporters claiming job creation is better under Biden. The accrued numbers over four years are so distorted due to Covid that they have very little meaning.

 

[brutus76]

Dems need to nominate the Rock!

 

[Festerz]

One thing Trump had going for him was that during his term inflation was under control, in comparison to other presidents

You're kidding right? That chart is politically driven nonsense and economically meaningless as it totally ignores the causes of inflation/deflation spikes over the time period.

Why do you think inflation surged in almost all modern economies in the period 2021-2024? It ain't hard to work out intuitively or research why, surely?




C'mon take a guess. (hint it has nothing to do with Joe Biden).


Edit. Here's a bit of help:



source: KPMG global economic assessment.

 

[darrenmorgan]

Are we supporting political violence now? I thought we abhored it on Jan 6th??

I thought Jan 6 wasn’t violent?

 

[GreyCrow]

Let's deal in fact rather than your imagination.

Trump has endorsed violence - sitting idly by having cancelled security services with his COS powers while his guests dance mindlessly to Gloria while MAGA storm the Capitol.

Trump watched it on live TV AND DID NOTHING.

Meanwhile you are preoccupied speaking shit about hypotheticals.

The dystopian nihilism that Trump supporters seem to be advocating for makes absolutely no sense to me. You are the first to cry like babies when things don't go your way and the first to get bone spurs when shit gets real.

In b4 But Pelosi

 

[Satan]

I thought Jan 6 wasn’t violent?

Tourists,?

 

[GreyCrow]

Hiding from tourists??

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I thought Jan 6 wasn’t violent?

Touché

 

[Chief]

Trump is always just a victim of bad luck and timing.

Who could forget him refuting his record increase in national debt by saying that they were just about to start paying it down quickly but then Biden got in.

Sounds legit.

Would have started paying it off two weeks later.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Imagine voting for either of these cretins.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

I thought Jan 6 wasn’t violent?

I was told by the left that it was so I took their word for it.

The police where there guiding them around anyways.

 

[GreyCrow]

Reuters July 1 poll posted on 538 has Michelle Obama 11 points ahead of Trump