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According to Trump himself he is, I just posted his fairly unambiguous quote lol. Is he only a "straight talker" when he's saying stuff you like?
In any case, he's responsible for appointing the SC judges who overturned it. Here are some of them literally lying about it in their confirmation hearings
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That is just overly simplistic. If someone filed an objection to RvW based on a technicality then the SC judges are obliged to look at that motion on its merits.According to Trump himself he is, I just posted his fairly unambiguous quote lol. Is he only a "straight talker" when he's saying stuff you like?
In any case, he's responsible for appointing the SC judges who overturned it. Here they are literally lying about it in their confirmation hearings
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I'm not sure why people are so hung up on RvW. Abortion is still legal in the US and they just had an increase in the number of abortions up 11% from 2020.
So the ruling has had no effect. In fact, you could argue its done the opposite.
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Most of US politics is 'right' by Australian standards, which is already 'right' compared to a lot of Scandinavia (for example).
When you're talking about people arguing for the removal of reproductive choices, removal of same-sex marriage, and access to contraception - for example - I'd say by the standards of Australians discussing their views, they're hard-right. They're much further to the right than a Peter Dutton would be.
Clarence Thomas Signals Same-Sex Marriage and Contraception Rights at Risk After Overturning Roe v. Wade
The Supreme Court should “reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents," Thomas wrote.
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Didn't we address this the other day? That stat is incredibly misleading, and misses out on a whole heap of other problems being caused.
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You are now attempting to debate with a straight face whether or not people like Thomas and Alito are in fact "hard right". Mind boggling.
Musing about banning contraception? Nah all good, just your run of the mill vaguely right-leaning stuff
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You sadly are wasting your time trying to educate the uninformed.According to Trump himself he is, I just posted his fairly unambiguous quote lol. Is he only a "straight talker" when he's saying stuff you like?
In any case, he's responsible for appointing the SC judges who overturned it. Here they are literally lying about it in their confirmation hearings
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Okay, we've had a good run. Some have had a good laugh and others have melted a little, but from this point we're improving the standard of discussion.
The rules for the SRP are thus:
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... and I'd like you all to stick to them.
From the Trump threads:
The rules for the SRP are thus:
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From the Trump threads:
Play nicely from here, please.
False. Its referencing a list of proposals he released back in March 2023.
Trump zeroes in on a key target of his 'retribution' agenda: Government workers
The former president’s plan to radically change the civil service is causing "anxiety" for career officials, in no small part because it is becoming "basically doctrine" on the right.
www.nbcnews.com
He literally already tried to do it last time. But sure, he won't try again, despite specifically releasing comms that he will
Still no comment on the dictator for a day stuff? Too funny, facts do not exist in this dojo
You can't be posting in this thread like you are and be this information illiterate, you just can't be.
"Abortion is still legal in the US", **** me
Thats just magnificentThe republican's position on immigration, child exploitation and indoctrination, the economy and really all policies will have a positive impact on mental health issues in the long run
I really shouldn't be surprised that was the best response you could manage, but here we are. Absolutely incredible, Ted Cruz level avoidance and deflection here
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It would appear so wouldn't it.
Always the chance they're just a parody account to make conservatives look bad, well played if so lol
He said he'd lock Hillary up, build the wall and drain the swamp too
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Also said there are post birth abortions ..which isn’t the worse lies he has spewed tbhHe said he'd lock Hillary up, build the wall and drain the swamp too
So, snowflakes then?
And it's because they get to shit on Biden; no other reason.
Pfft, the USA is the leader of the 'free' world, and Australia's number 1 ally; of course Australians are going to give a shit.
And if you want hysteria, watch Sky News.
Independent source?
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Infant deaths increased after Texas banned early abortions, study finds
Infant mortality in Texas increased after the state passed a law that banned abortions in early pregnancy, a study1 has reported. Texas’s Senate Bill 8 (SB 8), the first law in the US to strictly limit abortion, came into effect on 1 September 2021. It banned abortions after cardiac activity...
Infant deaths increased after Texas banned early abortions, study finds
Infant mortality in Texas increased after the state passed a law that banned abortions in early pregnancy, a study1 has reported. Texas’s Senate Bill 8 (SB 8), the first law in the US to strictly limit abortion, came into effect on 1 September 2021. It banned abortions after cardiac activity...www.bmj.com
British Medical Journal?
Not even Merican
Abortion is still legal in the US. I’m not sure what reddit thread or Twitter idiot you are reading.You can't be posting in this thread like you are and be this information illiterate, you just can't be.
"Abortion is still legal in the US", **** me
It’s self evident. Name 10 people in the last 12 months who have been charged for having an abortion.
Should be fairly easy given there were over 600k last year.
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Could you be any more disingenuous?
Abortion providers have been shut down, that's step 1 of the process.
You've got people having to go out-of-state for access to abortion, if they can afford it, and states now trying to criminalise leaving the state to access such healthcare. That's step 2.
Guess what happens once it's a criminal offence to leave the state for an abortion?
Finally accepted Trump's general plans for his next term I assume, thats good. Only had to wade through 4 or 5 levels of deflection
www.theguardian.com
Some states have even threatened legal action for aborting non-viable pregnancies.
www.theguardian.com
Patients themselves are traveling to other states too - well, those who are able to and have the money to do it. For those not so lucky, oh well, better get to work raising your rapist's kid while you start high school
abcnews.go.com
All seems to be going fine, abortion in the US still very legal, nothing to see here
lol, absolutely flailing. I posted a source, and it wasn't reddit or twitter. Are you actually reading this stuff, or just seeing a few trigger words and mashing the keyboard?
Well this will come as a shock to you I'm sure, but you don't perform an abortion on yourself and medical professionals generally shy away from things that could see them criminally prosecuted.
The doctors leaving anti-abortion states: ‘I couldn’t do my job at all’
Four months after Roe v Wade was overturned, some providers have left states restricting abortions or changed careers
Some states have even threatened legal action for aborting non-viable pregnancies.
Texas attorney general says he will sue doctor who gives abortion to Kate Cox
Ken Paxton issues threat after judge ruled this week that Cox, a pregnant woman with a lethal fetal diagnosis, can get an abortion
Patients themselves are traveling to other states too - well, those who are able to and have the money to do it. For those not so lucky, oh well, better get to work raising your rapist's kid while you start high school
13-year-old rape victim has baby amid confusion over state's abortion ban
A 13-year-old rape victim in Mississippi carried her baby to term amid her family's confusion over whether she could get an abortion in the state.
All seems to be going fine, abortion in the US still very legal, nothing to see here
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The Biden debate disaster has really emboldened the Trumpies here, hasn't it? Even the super cooked are back, along with a few new ones being very vocal.
One thing hasn't changed - they all share the same trait of shameless dishonesty when arguing. It covers for their ignorance, wilful or otherwise, of the facts relating to issues they are arguing.
One thing hasn't changed - they all share the same trait of shameless dishonesty when arguing. It covers for their ignorance, wilful or otherwise, of the facts relating to issues they are arguing.
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