Preview 2025 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Kedron lions]

maybe if he is picked he could have an archie smith

44

Archie Smith

Age

29

Ht

203cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

6.9

4star

CL

2.1

4star

HO

14.4

5star

D

4.7

1star

K

1.7

1star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

2.0

4star

HO

11.3

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

3.4

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

3.0

5star

HO

17.8

5star

story of being touted and never panning out never mind his build

 

[Swanny10]

That's simply not going to happen. No club can contend properly for 10 years in a row, unless Geelong. Without Zorko, Rich, Daniher, Lyons, Robinson, Neale all retired or on last legs by 2026 you will go down for awhile.

Unknown father sons who have not played a game will not help you instantly.

The AFL has realised its mistakes with academies and zones with (Jamarra) an example, its influence is subtracting every year.

Stumbled upon this thread randomly but had to say your comments have aged pretty poorly. The new guys that have come or are coming through fair to say make it a pretty promising future for the Lions for 2025 and beyond. Lions have a very good record of bringing in mature ages as well to top up list and fill needs.

I believe Cooper Hodge is a 50/50 chance to choose Lions Hawks at this stage.

 

[Haggas]

Stumbled upon this thread randomly but had to say your comments have aged pretty poorly. The new guys that have come or are coming through fair to say make it a pretty promising future for the Lions for 2025 and beyond. Lions have a very good record of bringing in mature ages as well to top up list and fill needs.

I believe Cooper Hodge is a 50/50 chance to choose Lions Hawks at this stage.

Cooper Hodge won't be that great of an AFL player I don't think, maybe find a role but he won't be his dad.

 

[LB2Snake]

I'm guessing your recruiters were trying to bid early on kids we didn't have any intention of actually taking. Similar to Richmond in the 2019 draft.

I don't think there was even that much of a "system" in place

 

[Miller1971]

I believe Cooper Hodge is a 50/50 chance to choose Lions Hawks at this stage.

he'll be lucky if either want him. Not in the best 10 kids his age in Brisbane

 

[GC2015]

he'll be lucky if either want him. Not in the best 10 kids his age in Brisbane

I know a lot can change in 12 months, but wasn't Cooper Hodge named in the U15 All Australian team last year?

 

[briztoon]

I know a lot can change in 12 months, but wasn't Cooper Hodge named in the U15 All Australian team last year?

About that....

 

[GC2015]

About that....

Undeserving?

 

[Kedron lions]

Undeserving?

from what I've seen underserving of all australian given his talent he will be simply a good club player his name helps him along

 

[Miller1971]

I know a lot can change in 12 months, but wasn't Cooper Hodge named in the U15 All Australian team last year?

*schoolboys.

There are kids that were in the team the previous year that couldn't get a start in their academy team. This year a big lad who I actually rate called Max Boothey, he made the All-Australian team after not making the QLD team! (to be honest, he deserved it too, but if it weren't for QLD hosting and putting in a 2nd team, then he wouldn't even have been at the carnival!)

Probably tells you everything you need to know about school based footy.

Best kids in QLD from 2008 are Owen (Lions), Hill (Suns) and C.Murray (Lions) who were all AA u16s via national carnival.

Other handy types are Callinan (Suns), Watts (Lions), McPherson (Lions) and then there are a couple of kids in Levi and Thompson who don't seem to be getting a start in their academy teams. Hodge is definitely up there in this next group, though McPherson would be the pick of them outside the Top 3 above.

 

[GC2015]

*schoolboys.

There are kids that were in the team the previous year that couldn't get a start in their academy team. This year a big lad who I actually rate called Max Boothey, he made the All-Australian team after not making the QLD team! (to be honest, he deserved it too, but if it weren't for QLD hosting and putting in a 2nd team, then he wouldn't even have been at the carnival!)

Probably tells you everything you need to know about school based footy.

Best kids in QLD from 2008 are Owen (Lions), Hill (Suns) and C.Murray (Lions) who were all AA u16s via national carnival.

Other handy types are Callinan (Suns), Watts (Lions), McPherson (Lions) and then there are a couple of kids in Levi and Thompson who don't seem to be getting a start in their academy teams. Hodge is definitely up there in this next group, though McPherson would be the pick of them outside the Top 3 above.

2023 U15 AA TEAM
Victoria Navy [6]: Darcy Harrington, Lachlan Hicks, Jack Surkitt, Mitch Toner, Cody Walker, Levi West
Western Australia [6]: Drew Clarke, Jayden Clarke, Jai Debono, Thatcher Simmons, Lucas Robinson, Kye Omerod,
Victoria White [3]: Harvie Cooke, Blake Newton, Angus Tippett
South Australia [3]: Jack Gordon, Jermaine Miller, Naite Slade
Queensland [3]: Cooper Hodge, Jackson Jarvis, Taj Murray
New South Wales [2]: Mason McGroder, Lucas Roberts
Tasmania [1]: Archie Devine
ACT [1]: Isaac Dixon

2024 U16 AA TEAM
South Australia [5]: Douglas Cochrane, Jack Gordon, Archie Van Dyk, Ethan Herbert, Angus White
Western Australia [4]: Garrison Kenh, Lucas Robinson, Koby LeCras, Leo Steed
Vic Country [4]: Cody Walker, Marcus Prasad, Wil Malady, Tanner Armstrong
Queensland [3]: Matthew Owen (BL), Caylen Murray (BL), Archie Hill (GC)
Tasmania [3]: Charlie Bovill, Ryder Bugg, Ewan Dillon
Vic Metro [2]: Arki Butler, Tate Hodgson
New South Wales [2]: Aidan McCartney (SS), Guy Jenkin (SS)

Only three players featured in both AA teams - Cody Walker (Vic C), Lucas Robinson (WA) & Jack Gordon (SA). Also, Taj Murray featured in back-to-back U15 AA teams in 2023 & 2024. I guess it just goes to show that you can't really trust the schoolboys selectors.

 

[EricCartman]

2023 U15 AA TEAM
Victoria Navy [6]: Darcy Harrington, Lachlan Hicks, Jack Surkitt, Mitch Toner, Cody Walker, Levi West
Western Australia [6]: Drew Clarke, Jayden Clarke, Jai Debono, Thatcher Simmons, Lucas Robinson, Kye Omerod,
Victoria White [3]: Harvie Cooke, Blake Newton, Angus Tippett
South Australia [3]: Jack Gordon, Jermaine Miller, Naite Slade
Queensland [3]: Cooper Hodge, Jackson Jarvis, Taj Murray
New South Wales [2]: Mason McGroder, Lucas Roberts
Tasmania [1]: Archie Devine
ACT [1]: Isaac Dixon

2024 U16 AA TEAM
South Australia [5]: Douglas Cochrane, Jack Gordon, Archie Van Dyk, Ethan Herbert, Angus White
Western Australia [4]: Garrison Kenh, Lucas Robinson, Koby LeCras, Leo Steed
Vic Country [4]: Cody Walker, Marcus Prasad, Wil Malady, Tanner Armstrong
Queensland [3]: Matthew Owen (BL), Caylen Murray (BL), Archie Hill (GC)
Tasmania [3]: Charlie Bovill, Ryder Bugg, Ewan Dillon
Vic Metro [2]: Arki Butler, Tate Hodgson
New South Wales [2]: Aidan McCartney (SS), Guy Jenkin (SS)

Only three players featured in both AA teams - Cody Walker (Vic C), Lucas Robinson (WA) & Jack Gordon (SA). Also, Taj Murray featured in back-to-back U15 AA teams in 2023 & 2024. I guess it just goes to show that you can't really trust the schoolboys selectors.

Interestingly enough, Lachlan Hicks (u15 Vic Navy) was judged Metro’s best player but still didn’t make the all Australian team.

 

[GC2015]

Interestingly enough, Lachlan Hicks (u15 Vic Navy) was judged Metro’s best player but still didn’t make the all Australian team.

That's strange. I remember when the 2023 AA team was announced, I heard a few people saying Archie Hill was incredibly stiff to not be named and you can see he was named in the U16 AA team a year later after receiving the MVP award for the Suns' U16s team this year.

You do raise your eyebrows over some selections at times, but it's probably fair to assume Cooper Hodge received some favourable treatment when he was named in the U15 AA team last year. I know the same thing has been happening with Demons' F/S prospect Kalani White for the last few years.

 

[tombomb]

I've only watched him play a couple of times and he seems to be getting a few injuries, but I think Max King

12

Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

could be right at the top of the draft.

He is one of the most talented players we have had come through the academy.

You can see him (33) take a hanger at 53:55 in the below video playing seniors in Newcastle. Unfortunately, the landing I think kept him out of the futures game.

https://www.bartvsports.com.au/afl/...and-final-cup-newcastle-city-v-cardiff-hawks/

 

[Andy_Mac]

That's strange. I remember when the 2023 AA team was announced, I heard a few people saying Archie Hill was incredibly stiff to not be named and you can see he was named in the U16 AA team a year later after receiving the MVP award for the Suns' U16s team this year.

You do raise your eyebrows over some selections at times, but it's probably fair to assume Cooper Hodge received some favourable treatment when he was named in the U15 AA team last year. I know the same thing has been happening with Demons' F/S prospect Kalani White for the last few years.

GC2015 what is the latest with Kalani? His stocks have seemed to have really fallen away.

 

[Miller1971]

GC2015 what is the latest with Kalani? His stocks have seemed to have really fallen away.

the latest is that he is still no good, not much has changed!

 

[THE_GUN]

Which players are looking like the top 6-7 players in 2025 draft that are not a father son or Academy players

 

[EricCartman]

GC2015 what is the latest with Kalani? His stocks have seemed to have really fallen away.

Wasn’t much stock to begin with.

 

[Davo-27]

Which players are looking like the top 6-7 players in 2025 draft that are not a father son or Academy players

Max Downes and Arki Butler (Vic Metro) are a good chance to be top 5, I need to catch up on the u16s champs, but those 2 and Cody Walker (VC FS to Carl) are up there as the best, previously Owen's from Bris A and Cochrane from SA who I think is a FS too? Were 1s I spotted as potential top end talents a year and a bit ago, but we'll see how they all develop, sometimes they get too strong and lose their flexibility ect, Harry Van Hattum (VM) is a very good ruck but unless rucks are like Jackson they don't go that high, but he scores highly for me for a ruck, could be the first high pick ruck for a few years potentially?

I need to see if Cooper Hodge is good or not, because he got u15s AA but has had some criticism lately?

 

[EricCartman]

Max Downes and Arki Butler (Vic Metro) are a good chance to be top 5, I need to catch up on the u16s champs, but those 2 and Cody Walker (VC FS to Carl) are up there as the best, previously Owen's from Bris A and Cochrane from SA who I think is a FS too? Were 1s I spotted as potential top end talents a year and a bit ago, but we'll see how they all develop, sometimes they get too strong and lose their flexibility ect, Harry Van Hattum (VM) is a very good ruck but unless rucks are like Jackson they don't go that high, but he scores highly for me for a ruck, could be the first high pick ruck for a few years potentially?

I need to see if Cooper Hodge is good or not, because he got u15s AA but has had some criticism lately?

I think you may’ve gotten your draft classes mixed up.

 

[Davo-27]

I think you may’ve gotten your draft classes mixed up.

i read above and there was 2026 draft talk, i didnt look at the title.

 

[Miller1971]

Max Downes and Arki Butler (Vic Metro) are a good chance to be top 5, I need to catch up on the u16s champs, but those 2 and Cody Walker (VC FS to Carl) are up there as the best, previously Owen's from Bris A and Cochrane from SA who I think is a FS too? Were 1s I spotted as potential top end talents a year and a bit ago, but we'll see how they all develop, sometimes they get too strong and lose their flexibility ect, Harry Van Hattum (VM) is a very good ruck but unless rucks are like Jackson they don't go that high, but he scores highly for me for a ruck, could be the first high pick ruck for a few years potentially?

I need to see if Cooper Hodge is good or not, because he got u15s AA but has had some criticism lately?

He's not terrible and will get a rails run of opportunity, but he isn't in the best 5 or 6 in his age group at the Lions and probably not best 10 in QLD, and its not a strong vintage either. Would need to have alot of improvement.

He plays at a high intensity and he's hard at it. He has poor discipline (silly free kicks) isn't clean at all below his knees and his kicking is tidy, but generally just bombs it down the line to numbers and isn't partial to lowering the eyes at all.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

The RMC crew have another draft guide to read about and, for the latest one, 25 for 2025 was published.


Beau Addinsall.
Daniel Annable.
Thomas Burton.
Lachlan Carmichael.
Noah Chamberlain.
Sam Cumming.
Cody Curtin.
Jack Dalton.
Cooper Duff-Tytler.
Willem Duursma.
Louis Emmett.
Ollie Greeves.
Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves.
Max King

12

Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

.
Josh Lindsay.
Archie Ludowyke.
Tom McGuane.
Riley Onley.
Dylan Patterson.
Fred Rodriguez.
Ben Rongdit.
Dyson Sharp.
Aidan Schubert.
Zeke Uwland.
Kalani White.

 

[GC2015]

The RMC crew have another draft guide to read about and, for the latest one, 25 for 2025 was published.


Beau Addinsall.
Daniel Annable.
Thomas Burton.
Lachlan Carmichael.
Noah Chamberlain.
Sam Cumming.
Cody Curtin.
Jack Dalton.
Cooper Duff-Tytler.
Willem Duursma.
Louis Emmett.
Ollie Greeves.
Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves.
Max King.
Josh Lindsay.
Archie Ludowyke.
Tom McGuane.
Riley Onley.
Dylan Patterson.
Fred Rodriguez.
Ben Rongdit.
Dyson Sharp.
Aidan Schubert.
Zeke Uwland.
Kalani White.

Any chance you can share the write up for Addinsall, Patterson, Uwland and White?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Any chance you can share the write up for Addinsall, Patterson, Uwland and White?

Apologies for Willem Duursma's hand and boot getting in the way.