Prediction 2025 - Best 23 + Emergencies - Rolling

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1995 Midfield
Madden Ratten Williams Campo Bradley Hanna Kouta Brown


2025 midfield
TDK Cripps Jagga Walsh Acres Cerra Hewett DOC

Think 95 for now wins obviously but jeez, 25 isn’t lacking for talent
 
I see the squad shaping up something like this:

Reserves
B: Cincotta Young Wilson
HB: Charleson O’Farrell (M Carroll?)
C: Binns B Camporeale L Camporeale
HF: Motlop Lemmey Fantasia
F: Durdin O’Keeffe Kemp
Foll: Pittonet O Hollands Lord
I/C: Monahan Duffy (Durdin/DGB?)

Seniors
B: Haynes Weitering Saad
HB: Cowan McGovern Newman
C: Acres Cripps Docherty
HF: Walsh McKay E Hollands
F: Williams Curnow Fogarty
Foll: TDK Cerra Smith
I/C: Boyd Cottrell Hewett Silvagni Moir

Obviously a lot of room for discussion regarding specific selections. The half back line and centre line of the reserves both look very raw but there is a lot of positional flexibility of players that I think they would turn to first before selecting a number of those players.

The main hope is that we’ll have at least 85% of the squad available every week instead of 65-70% as we’ve had for the past decade. That should maximise development and competition for spots.


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Christou2Kouta said:
I see the squad shaping up something like this:

Reserves
B: Cincotta Young Wilson
HB: Charleson O’Farrell (M Carroll?)
C: Binns B Camporeale L Camporeale
HF: Motlop Lemmey Fantasia
F: Durdin O’Keeffe Kemp
Foll: Pittonet O Hollands Lord
I/C: Monahan Duffy (Durdin/DGB?)

Seniors
B: Haynes Weitering Saad
HB: Cowan McGovern Newman
C: Acres Cripps Docherty
HF: Walsh McKay E Hollands
F: Williams Curnow Fogarty
Foll: TDK Cerra Smith
I/C: Boyd Cottrell Hewett Silvagni Moir

Obviously a lot of room for discussion regarding specific selections. The half back line and centre line of the reserves both look very raw but there is a lot of positional flexibility of players that I think they would turn to first before selecting a number of those players.

The main hope is that we’ll have at least 85% of the squad available every week instead of 65-70% as we’ve had for the past decade. That should maximise development and competition for spots.


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Hollands will be playing seniors all season. He’s particularly well ahead of Cotterell Moir and Boyd.
 
Seniors

B: Saad Weitering Cowan
HB: Newman Haynes McGovern
C: Acres Cripps O. Hollands
HF: Williams McKay E. Hollands
F: Motlop Curnow Fogarty

R: De Koning, Walsh, Hewett

I/C: Cerra, Docherty, Boyd, Smith

S: Moir

Reserves

B: Wilson Young Charleston
HB: Carroll?, O'Farrell, Silvagni
: Binns, Lord, L. Camporeale
HF: Cottrell, Lemmey, Fantasia
F: C. Durdin, McMahon?, Kemp

C: Pittonet, B. Camporeale, Cincotta

I/C: O'Keefe, Monahan, Duffy

Gone with 1 ruck, Harry pinch hitting.

Backline is Weitering and Haynes handling the bigs, McGovern given license to intercept along with Newman. Cowan playing a more lockdown role, Saad to be outlet runner, swapping with Boyd and Docherty.

Acres and O. Hollands rotating with Docherty, Walsh, Smith on the wings.

Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett first choice mid group. Rotations are E. Hollands, O.Hollands, Smith, Docherty.

Forwardline still feels like the group with the most up in the air. Twin towers sorted obviously, but the smalls aren't settled for mine. Play Williams and Motlop as your ground ball threats, Fog as pressure mid, Elijah as the mid-forward connector, rotate Cerra, Cripps as required

Think Jagga is far too good for VFL level, nothing to learn there. Give him some mid minutes, rotating wing and half-forward.

Moir showed such danger in short bursts, could be a fantastic impact sub, unless his pre-season makes him undeniable for the best 22.

Lots to look forward to in training reports.

Ressies got a new look, young backline with Young and the reportedly defensive bound Silvagni as senior reps.

Midfield revolves around Lord, B. Camporeale, with bruiser Cincotta as protection. Binns and L.Camporeale taking wings feels natural.

Forward line is probably the most experienced with Cottrell, Fantasia, Durdin and Kemp all with substantial AFL exposure.

Have chosen Carroll and McMahon as the SSP fillers because S. Durdin feels too similar to Young and DGB is, as of yet, unproven

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Our midfield has gone through the mini-rebuild I was demanding we do a couple of seasons ago. Our forward line is full of fairly low quality footballers who are not genuine forwards who will be moved on next season.

Selecting the backline is hard. Because it has depth and upcoming youth.

B: Newman Weitering McGovern
HB: Docherty Haynes Saad
C: Acres Cripps Smith
HF: E Hollands Kemp Williams
F: McKay Curnow Motlop
OB: DeKoning Walsh Cerra
IC: O Holllands Lord Hewett Moir
SUB: Durdin

The backline is fairly old but IMO not too old. Cowan, Wilson, Boyd will all be pushing really hard for spots and Charleson could be a Darkhorse. Docherty and Saad back to where they became AA players. Hollands coming up through the wings at half back. More rotations on our half back line with Newman who can also play there is important.

The midfield rebuild is ongoing IMO. Not sure where Smith plays, but I have placed him on a wing. He could play as a plus 1 off half forward or half back. He could play in the middle. He's a smart, high class all round player.

I'm really keen on seeing Kemp forward. Releasing him into an offensive role is something I have wanted to see for a while. He was good there last season. Moir is an exciting prospect for us. Motlop needs to deliver this year. McKay spending more time in the ruck is something that will do us favours and look after TDK more. We can do that with Kemp and Moir in the team. I hope we give Lord some serious game time. He was great this year. He's a ball winning mid who is tough, tackles hard, applies pressure and has an outside game and has nice skills. He's 100% what we need in there. Cerra needs to step up. Will Ben Camporeale play a few games this season? Don't be surprised.

We need to use more of our list and hopefully we do. We need to take more opportunity to play our young players during the season. I want to see the Camporeale boys playing a few games if they are in form. I want to see Cowan and Wilson playing games this season. I want to see more of Binns. What I don't want to see is seeing older second rate players continued to be played over them. I would not mind seeing Lemmy play a forward/ruck role to rest McKay at times.

VFL

B: Charleson Silvagni O'Farrell
HB: Cowan Young Boyd
C: Camporeale Camporeale Binns
HF: Cottrell Duffy Fantasia
F: O'Keefe Lemmy Fogarty
OB: Pittonet Cincotta ?
IC: Monahan ? ? ?
 
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Hollands will be playing seniors all season. He’s particularly well ahead of Cotterell Moir and Boyd.
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Yeah, it’s certainly up for debate. Is Hollands ahead of Boyd as a defender?
Is he ahead of Cottrell as a high half forward rotating on the wing?
Is he a better leading forward than Moir?

I’m not sure. I think it would be nice for him to have some time playing on ball in the 2s for his development but he’s certainly in the frame to play round one.


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This is genuinely one of the toughest years ever to forecast. Not confident at all in it panning out like this but I desperately want to see Billy Wilson push his way into the team.

Mitch McGovern - Jacob Weitering - Adam Saad
Nic Newman - Nick Haynes - Elijah Hollands
Blake Acres - Patrick Cripps - Sam Walsh
Corey Durdin - Charlie Curnow - Lachie Fogarty
Zac Williams - Harry Mckay - Ashton Moir
Tom DeKoning - Adam Cerra - Jagga Smith

George Hewett (Mid) - Lachie Cowan (Wing/HBF) - Jordan Boyd (HBF) - Sam Docherty (HFF/Wing)

Jesse Motlop (Fwd)
 
Christou2Kouta said:
Yeah, it’s certainly up for debate. Is Hollands ahead of Boyd as a defender?
Is he ahead of Cottrell as a high half forward rotating on the wing?
Is he a better leading forward than Moir?

I’m not sure. I think it would be nice for him to have some time playing on ball in the 2s for his development but he’s certainly in the frame to play round one.


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Id have Hollands ahead of Boyd. Reckon we need someone who can run and accumulate back there. Boyd a slightly better user but cant find the ball enough to be an attacking defender. We have other more versatile guys to do lockdown
 
As I see the teams being suggested we are continuing to go with only one genuine KD, Weiters, and in particular no taller key defender for the ruck sized key forwards. I get that this is largely a function of lack of competent options at least if Young is out of form given O'Farrell can't be expected to step straight up. Maybe a solution comes out of the train-on players or nabbing someone else in that draft, but otherwise we are stuck with the lack of a genuinely big KD or even a second genuine KD at all. Jack Silvagni or Harry Lemmey might be trialled down back and there is always the McKay to defence contingent and I don't mind trialling that but only if we really are thinking it a chance. Otherwise we are disrupting our preseason training as forward/back/mid units too much. Maybe we are stuck with Young as a part of the 22, chipping in as a defender and possible part time ruck or forward. The Young of his first year with us was a good player but will we ever see that Young again? I've taken the optimistic view, if he doesn't click hopefully another tall will step up. For the sake of the exercise I have named Young, but it could be Silvagni, O'Farrell, Lemmey or even Monahan, or one of the train-ons.

FIRSTS
Newman Weitering Haynes (I think Weitering will appreciate Haynes professionalism even if he is past his prime)
Saad McGovern Docherty (Doc best suited to getting a straight run at it, a fit and in form McGovern would launch)
Acres Cripps Walsh (Pretty obvious, with the HTB interpretation change I want to see Walsh on the outside)
E Hollands McKay O Hollands (Both Hollands under pressure. Could swap Curnow and McKay if Harry rucks much)
Kemp Curnow Williams (Kemp first shot at 3rd tall fwd, Williams looked our best SF last year)
De Koning Cerra Smith (Cerra edges Hewat, I give Smith a crack from the start but could start off a flank instead)
Cincotta Hewat Lord Young Boyd the bench mids give a mix of qualities, Young height and Boyd versatility as sub
EMERG Cottrell Cowan Fogarty

SECONDS
Charleson Silvagni O'Farrell (love seeing Silvagni at full back, brings back memories of ...Alex)
L Camporeale Monahan Wilson (give Monahan a look at the game opening up in front of him, else switch him fwd)
Binns B Camporeale Cottrell
Fantasia Lemmey Fogarty (could try Lemmey back and put Silvagni Monahan or even O'Farrell forward)
O'Keeffe Moir Motlop
Pittonet Cowan C Durdin
Duffy and ?? McMahon? Grainger-Barras? Phillips? S Durdin? M Carroll? Someone we poach? A VFL player?
 

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B: McGovern Weitering Saad
HB: Boyd Haynes Newman
C: Acres Cripps O.Hollands
HF: Hollands McKay Jagga
F: Williams Curnow Motlop
OB: TDK Walsh Cerra
IC: Kemp, Cowan, Hewett & Doc
Emergency
Cinc, Fog, silvagni Cottrell and Ben.

Forward 6 gone with the two big roosters and the 4 smaller Types. Jagga and Elijah is the class that gets High up the ground and can do Maxium damage forward of centre.
Two deadlys are the finishers that opposition will be worried about.

I’ve got Kemp on the bench. As I see him playing a swings man role this year. Offers the versatility to play Back or forward.

Boyd gets in the back 6 solely because of ball use. I think Doc will play in all three zones wherever he is needed.

I’ve gone with the 5 emergencies but I see a number of them fighting for a spot throughout the year. Could come in regularly depending on opposition.

Emergency one Cinc I think we should settle him down back. He done some very good jobs on some of the most dangerous opposition small forwards. There is a role for blokes like him.

Fog probably misses out if Zac, Motlop Elijah and Jagga get through a whole preseason without injury. If any of the 4 lack pressure he will find his way back in.

Silvagni depending on the role and how he comes back from injury. I think we badly missed a decent third tall forward last year. I hope he trains as a forward and not a defender as I think it will be a waste of time.

Cottrell voss seems to like his running capability and speed. Personally not in my 23 unless injuries happen.

Ben Camp I think he is well in line for a debut next year if he can improve his kicking only issue letting him down.
I think he is a George Hewett clone.
And I have him ahead of lord.

Moir will play games throughout next year needs a big Preseason and more experience.
Does have the X factor.
 
WalshistheGOAT said:
This is genuinely one of the toughest years ever to forecast. Not confident at all in it panning out like this but I desperately want to see Billy Wilson push his way into the team.

Mitch McGovern - Jacob Weitering - Adam Saad
Nic Newman - Nick Haynes - Elijah Hollands
Blake Acres - Patrick Cripps - Sam Walsh
Corey Durdin - Charlie Curnow - Lachie Fogarty
Zac Williams - Harry Mckay - Ashton Moir
Tom DeKoning - Adam Cerra - Jagga Smith

George Hewett (Mid) - Lachie Cowan (Wing/HBF) - Jordan Boyd (HBF) - Sam Docherty (HFF/Wing)

Jesse Motlop (Fwd)
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Interesting you kept Kemp and Ollie out.

I like Walsh on the wing. He has the tank, he has the skill set, he has the work ethic, we now have Smith... it just makes more sense than Ollie.

I'd go with:

Mitch McGovern - Jacob Weitering - Adam Saad
Nic Newman - Nick Haynes - Lachie Cowan
Blake Acres - Patrick Cripps - Sam Walsh
Elijah Hollands - Charlie Curnow - Brodie Kemp
Zac Williams - Harry Mckay - Jesse Motlop
Tom DeKoning - Adam Cerra - Jagga Smith

George Hewett (Mid) - Ollie Hollands (Wing/HBF) - Jordan Boyd (HBF) - Sam Docherty (HFF)

Ashton Moir (Fwd)

Corey Durdin has a bit of work to do to warrant being best 22 imo.

VFL:

SSP/MSD - Lewis Young - Harry Charleson
Billy Wilson - Harry O'Farrell - Jack Silvagni
Jaxon Binns - Cooper Lord - Lucas Camporeale
Lachie Fogarty - Harry Lemmey - Orazio Fantasia
Corey Durdin - Hudson O'Keefe - Ashton Moir
Marc Pittonet - Ben Camporeale - Alex Cincotta

Matt Cottrell - Rob Monahan - Matt Duffy - SSP/MSD
 
Saad Weitering McGovern
Cowan Silvagni Newman

DeKoning Cerra Smith
Walsh Cripps Acres

Hollands McKay Williams
Kemp Curnow Motlop

Hollands Cincotta Hewett Docherty
Moir

Plenty of younger types who have the opportunity to show their talents who can hopefully earn the chance up at seniors level… Next Gen…

L.Campo Young O’Farrell
Boyd Haynes Charleston

Pittonet Lord Fogarty
Binns B.Campo Wilson

Durdin Lemmey Cottrell
O’Keefe McMahon Fantasia

Duffy Monahan
 
Blue_Fusion said:
Interesting you kept Kemp and Ollie out.

I like Walsh on the wing. He has the tank, he has the skill set, he has the work ethic, we now have Smith... it just makes more sense than Ollie.

I'd go with:

Mitch McGovern - Jacob Weitering - Adam Saad
Nic Newman - Nick Haynes - Lachie Cowan
Blake Acres - Patrick Cripps - Sam Walsh
Elijah Hollands - Charlie Curnow - Brodie Kemp
Zac Williams - Harry Mckay - Jesse Motlop
Tom DeKoning - Adam Cerra - Jagga Smith

George Hewett (Mid) - Ollie Hollands (Wing/HBF) - Jordan Boyd (HBF) - Sam Docherty (HFF)

Ashton Moir (Fwd)

Corey Durdin has a bit of work to do to warrant being best 22 imo.

VFL:

SSP/MSD - Lewis Young - Harry Charleson
Billy Wilson - Harry O'Farrell - Jack Silvagni
Jaxon Binns - Cooper Lord - Lucas Camporeale
Lachie Fogarty - Harry Lemmey - Orazio Fantasia
Corey Durdin - Hudson O'Keefe - Ashton Moir
Marc Pittonet - Ben Camporeale - Alex Cincotta

Matt Cottrell - Rob Monahan - Matt Duffy - SSP/MSD
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I'm not as convinced on Kemp up forward but happy to see what he has to offer over the pre season. Ollie I love as a player but need to see a bit more before I have him as genuine best 23. I think atm he's a 25-28 player if we're at genuine full health (which is unlikely obviously)
 
I think we as a board are getting pretty close in our team selections - something seen as unpopular based on these is Moir in the side. I personally believe he belongs in the team, with Kemp or Silvagni missing to give him that spot as a 3rd tall option.

What are we thinking? I also see Silvagni behind the ball in some sides, which I think I'd like. He's strong in the body for his size and competes hard, Kemp is definitely more athletic but Silvagni would be a great stopper for those bigger, stronger forwards.
 
I am liking the various best 23s in here. A few players I'll be taking an interest in are Moir, who I think if he can keep his body right, will be one consistently pushing for selection.
And besides Jagga Smith (who, along with everyone else, I believe is there from Rd 1), another draftee who I think will be pushing for selection in the course of the year is Ben Camporeale - although I am not sure who is his competition for spots...
 
Newman Weitering McGovern
Saad JSOS Cowan
Ollie Cripps Acres
Fogarty Harry Elijah
Kemp Charlie Williams
TDK Cerra Walsh

Smith Hewett Docherty Motlop
 
BringFevBack2021 said:
I think we as a board are getting pretty close in our team selections - something seen as unpopular based on these is Moir in the side. I personally believe he belongs in the team, with Kemp or Silvagni missing to give him that spot as a 3rd tall option.

What are we thinking? I also see Silvagni behind the ball in some sides, which I think I'd like. He's strong in the body for his size and competes hard, Kemp is definitely more athletic but Silvagni would be a great stopper for those bigger, stronger forwards.
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Long term I like what Moir brings to the forward line more then Kemp. Can play tall and small plus is very skillful. Kemp provides a better marking option but is inferior in other areas.

I have Kemp in atm due to his ability to play KPF when Harry goes into the ruck. Gives Charlie a chopout. Plus question marks on Moirs fitness. Concerned about playing them both due to lack of overall forward pressure.

As far as defence it depends on the role. I think Kemp adds more as an attacking 3rd tall but Gov has that role. If its a 2nd KPD we're after I like SOS skillset though I expect Haynes to get that role to start.
 
When Moir's tank allows him to play 4 quarters of AFL level footy consistently he will be best 22.

Until then he's a highly talented depth player and sub.

The sky is the limit for him.
 
Wickzki said:
When Moir's tank allows him to play 4 quarters of AFL level footy consistently he will be best 22.

Until then he's a highly talented depth player and sub.

The sky is the limit for him.
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Totally fair, perhaps I'm too optimistic in assuming he would have an AFL ready tank by Round 1. His chronic injury did hold him back in his top age year, but I am so bullish on him. He looks unbelievable.
 

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