Opinion 2025 Fantasy - Player X vs Y vs Z

[Corkintheocean]

You’re definitely right and I do think it’s worth the risk.
Thank you

You're welcome - one less team I have to worry about for the car now.

My first bum steer for the year!

 

[Corkintheocean]

The answer is always DD

Unless the question is 'who should write season 8 of GoT?'

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

NWM, Doch and Darcy (ruck) vs Sinclair, Peatling and TDK

Think the main decision comes down to Doc v Peatling in the debate. What do we think they will both go at?

 

[tigs2010]

NWM, Doch and Darcy (ruck) vs Sinclair, Peatling and TDK

Think the main decision comes down to Doc v Peatling in the debate. What do we think they will both go at?

Not confident Doc has a good role.

Peatling we assume will get a good role given he was in demand but wait and see i guess but I'd go option 2 personally.

edit: I actually have option 2 currently so maybe you should go 1

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Not confident Doc has a good role.

Peatling we assume will get a good role given he was in demand but wait and see i guess but I'd go option 2 personally.

edit: I actually have option 2 currently so maybe you should go 1

And just like that, I’m leaning towards Sinclair, Peatling and TDK

1k short of Peatling being Hollands which is also annoying me!

 

[tigs2010]

And just like that, I’m leaning towards Sinclair, Peatling and TDK

1k short of Peatling being Hollands which is also annoying me!

I have Hollands too currently so may as well just put a line through him rather than finding the $1k

 

[The Talent Scout]

This is a good one. Rozee is underpriced for what he can do. JHF is underpriced because he should comfortably improve. Butters should be the best of the three but I'm not touching him this year.

Very curious Barrybran, why not touching Zack Butters, your reasoning is good, is it he's burnt you last year or break evens is not worth it or something else? I've noticed lots of other people don't have him in their side either as well as other certain premiums, I know its early but lots of interesting calls at the moment by many people.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Very curious Barrybran, why not touching Zack Butters, your reasoning is good, is it he's burnt you last year or break evens is not worth it or something else? I've noticed lots of other people don't have him in their side either as well as other certain premiums, I know its early but lots of interesting calls at the moment by many people.

I think it's likely down to people believing Butters is priced close to his expected output (106ppg), whereas teammates Rozee (96) and JHF (89) have more potential upside. Therefore you're paying less for more points and if you're keen on Butters, you're better off grabbing him through the season should his price fall for some reason (that won't impact his scoring output in the future).

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think it's likely down to people believing Butters is priced close to his expected output (106ppg), whereas teammates Rozee (96) and JHF (89) have more potential upside. Therefore you're paying less for more points and if you're keen on Butters, you're better off grabbing him through the season should his price fall for some reason (that won't impact his scoring output in the future).

This view is frustrating me these days .....seems Coaches are rationalising choices with one player, yet contradicting themselves with another player, based on value

Example ....people choosing Sheezel ....but then saying Butters isn't value .....but then choosing Xerri as well

I get the need for (C) options

But lets face it, we all still choose players we enjoy watching ....new season long role for Sheezel, he will drop in price
Butters (PORT) have a great early season fixture .....surely fixtures can't be ignored

Note: I don't have any of the players discussed in my team

 

[tigs2010]

This view is frustrating me these days .....seems Coaches are rationalising choices with one player, yet contradicting themselves with another player, based on value

Example ....people choosing Sheezel ....but then saying Butters isn't value .....but then choosing Xerri as well

I get the need for (C) options

But lets face it, we all still choose players we enjoy watching ....new season long role for Sheezel, he will drop in price
Butters (PORT) have a great early season fixture .....surely fixtures can't be ignored

Note: I don't have any of the players discussed in my team

That has raised my eyebrow listening to a couple of pods about looking for value in every position then when they read out team, D1 is Sheez

 

[WaynesWorld19]

That has raised my eyebrow listening to a couple of pods about looking for value in every position then when they read out team, D1 is Sheez

I find a lot of the podcasters contradict what they preach with their team selections & discussions ....TBF the race is so hot to get as much content out, the quality of commentary is suffering a bit

Here's the take I've gotten though ......two of last years hat winners on podcasts, only retained 1 & 2 players respectively from the R1 teams

 

[Barrybran]

This view is frustrating me these days .....seems Coaches are rationalising choices with one player, yet contradicting themselves with another player, based on value

Example ....people choosing Sheezel ....but then saying Butters isn't value .....but then choosing Xerri as well

I get the need for (C) options

But lets face it, we all still choose players we enjoy watching ....new season long role for Sheezel, he will drop in price
Butters (PORT) have a great early season fixture .....surely fixtures can't be ignored

Note: I don't have any of the players discussed in my team

The difference between Butters and Sheezel this year is that there are plenty of value alternatives for Butters but not Sheezel. I've had iterations of my team with Oliver at M1 and five defenders priced over $800k because there is so much value in the midfield this year and it is the easiest position to upgrade. If you can't find value in defense, you'll get what you pay for so there's an argument to just pay for the guy at the top.

Xerri is a completely different argument. You're talking about risk and structure there. If Sheezel or Butters gets injured, you replace them with the next guy and move on. If Xerri gets injured, who do you go to? Marshall is injured. Gawn is old. English's points has been cut into by Sam Darcy. Then you're down into Nankervis / Grundy / Witts territory - good rucks but never the top of their line. So now you're wondering if you just find a value ruck and put the spare money elsewhere. But what if that guy gets injured? You're burning trades trying to get to the top guys instead of just choosing them and focusing your attention on the rest of your squad.

 

[tigs2010]

I find a lot of the podcasters contradict what they preach with their team selections & discussions ....TBF the race is so hot to get as much content out, the quality of commentary is suffering a bit

Here's the take I've gotten though ......two of last years hat winners on podcasts, only retained 1 & 2 players respectively from the R1 teams

Yep. I'm going to try play differently this year. I've always had a couple of top dogs on each line and then tried cash gen to upgrade the rest. These guys are turning over a whole team basically. Last year I went Bont purely for FOMO due to high ownership and was a train wreck.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The difference between Butters and Sheezel this year is that there are plenty of value alternatives for Butters but not Sheezel. I've had iterations of my team with Oliver at M1 and five defenders priced over $800k because there is so much value in the midfield this year and it is the easiest position to upgrade. If you can't find value in defense, you'll get what you pay for so there's an argument to just pay for the guy at the top.

Xerri is a completely different argument. You're talking about risk and structure there. If Sheezel or Butters gets injured, you replace them with the next guy and move on. If Xerri gets injured, who do you go to? Marshall is injured. Gawn is old. English's points has been cut into by Sam Darcy. Then you're down into Nankervis / Grundy / Witts territory - good rucks but never the top of their line. So now you're wondering if you just find a value ruck and put the spare money elsewhere. But what if that guy gets injured? You're burning trades trying to get to the top guys instead of just choosing them and focusing your attention on the rest of your squad.

All good points ....there are many ways to play the game, would be boring if we all had the same teams

I have Clark as my D1 .....Gawn as R1, not as a keeper, but hopefully till the byes

Will I get Sheezel, definitely .....but I'll wait till his price drops

 

[Shaunn]

This view is frustrating me these days .....seems Coaches are rationalising choices with one player, yet contradicting themselves with another player, based on value

Example ....people choosing Sheezel ....but then saying Butters isn't value .....but then choosing Xerri as well

I get the need for (C) options

But lets face it, we all still choose players we enjoy watching ....new season long role for Sheezel, he will drop in price
Butters (PORT) have a great early season fixture .....surely fixtures can't be ignored

Note: I don't have any of the players discussed in my team

Think the backline is different with less value there.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Think the backline is different with less value there.

See, this is the reason you can't start Sheezel .....his body is simply not ready for the rigours of the Midfield .....he's a twig

 

[Corkintheocean]

This view is frustrating me these days .....seems Coaches are rationalising choices with one player, yet contradicting themselves with another player, based on value

Example ....people choosing Sheezel ....but then saying Butters isn't value .....but then choosing Xerri as well

I get the need for (C) options

But lets face it, we all still choose players we enjoy watching ....new season long role for Sheezel, he will drop in price
Butters (PORT) have a great early season fixture .....surely fixtures can't be ignored

Note: I don't have any of the players discussed in my team

I don't disagree, was just trying to explain to the poster asking the question.