List Mgmt. 2025 List management

[Docker82]

No harm holding him as a rookie, but if Riddle looks promising, and with players like Reidy, Voss, MacDonald, Nicholls, Davies and Murphy as talls who will struggle for opportunity, I think there's pressure for spots.

This is it really. It's basically down to how they rate him against the players you've listed and/or how many of them stay on our list in 2026.

McDonald, Reidy and Riddle are also out of contract. I doubt McDonald is on our list next year tbh and Reidy might look for opportunities elsewhere.

Do I see Jones being delisted as the most likely outcome - Probably, but I'm not ruling out the club holding him if they were impressed enough by his progress in 2024 (and recovery in 2025).

 

[Purple Suit]

Banners has had some decent form and probably deserved the length of his contract extension, but

• there is no way Brodie should have got the length of extension that he did, and
• there is no way we should have initially signed JOM for 4 years initially??? He had injury concerns and 2, or at max 3 would have been fine.

Brodie got another 3 years when he was averaging 26 disposals a game and had played 24 games the season before. His fall from grace has been a big of a turn around as him coming from the clouds. It was a mistake, but it's probably only 1 year too long and having that depth tied up for 1 year too long is not really going to hurt us.

His spot got filled by Young who is a lot more damaging, so it's not like we spent any capital to replace him, we just had extortionary improvement and role change from within our own team.

I recon if Freo or Brodie was not happy with the situation, he'd be playing somewhere else. He seems to be well liked though so sometimes people would rather stick with the team and hope for an opportunity than leave.

 

[Lach72]

 

[Eski3]

Soon my sweet Kysaiah, soon

 

[theGav56]

This is it really. It's basically down to how they rate him against the players you've listed and/or how many of them stay on our list in 2026.

McDonald, Reidy and Riddle are also out of contract. I doubt McDonald is on our list next year tbh and Reidy might look for opportunities elsewhere.

Do I see Jones being delisted as the most likely outcome - Probably, but I'm not ruling out the club holding him if they were impressed enough by his progress in 2024 (and recovery in 2025).

If McDonald got another year I'm ok with it. Mature cover for Pearce has a value imo

Reidy and Riddle I would be looking for 2 year deals if they show anything.

Reidy may not be good enough for a #1 ruck, but if Darcy is injured he may be enough paired with Jackson, and create less structural disruption if he came in than Jackson taking the #1 ruck.

Riddle just needs to show he has the skills and attitude. He seems genuinely multi- positional (someone let me know if I'm wrong). In a few years when we are replacing Pearce he could even join Murphy and Nicholls as options. Who knows at this stage.

 

[Big Animal]

Can't wait to see Kosi in purple next year

 

[Dockeroo]

Would any of these guys get us any more than a future third? (At best).
The only guys I can think of that will get us some sort of capital would be Darcy (and maybe Noddy depending on his year) I reckon even Luke Ryan and Switta are too old to get us a first rounder.

Those kind of players would be practically worthless from a trade point of view if they can’t get a game for us.

If you can’t get a game at an afl club no other club is giving up much of value in trade capital. The only exception I can think of would be someone like Jordan Clark but he did have a standout first season at Geelong and was in the rising star winner conversion before he got injured so had exposed form at the top level.
The only way the likes of Simpson or Erasmus generate value in trade terms, is if they produce a decent stretch of footy at AFL level. Otherwise you are taking future 3rd or 4th rounder type valuations.
Of course if they started playing well and became worth something meaningful in a trade, well then we probably wouldn’t want to trade them out of our B22.
It’s kinda a catch 22 situation really.

Remember Blake acres having a great year for us and What did we get for him? An F3 that ended up being pick 50 odd.

 

[Docker82]

If McDonald got another year I'm ok with it. Mature cover for Pearce has a value imo

Reidy and Riddle I would be looking for 2 year deals if they show anything.

Reidy may not be good enough for a #1 ruck, but if Darcy is injured he may be enough paired with Jackson, and create less structural disruption if he came in than Jackson taking the #1 ruck.

Riddle just needs to show he has the skills and attitude. He seems genuinely multi- positional (someone let me know if I'm wrong). In a few years when we are replacing Pearce he could even join Murphy and Nicholls as options. Who knows at this stage.

I'd see getting rid of McDonald as natural list progression tbh. Draper is already ahead of him and Davies after this season might be as well. We'll cut 4-5 minimum and he's less than a year younger than Pearce - Don't see why we'd keep 'mature depth' when there's better or nearly as good younger depth in the same position tbh.

With Reidy it's not the club cutting him I'm worried about, it's him leaving for better opportunities.

Riddle would get another year easily if he shows anything. Longer if he shows a lot.

 

[freo1]

Can't wait to see Kosi in purple next year

i dont even care for Warner. We have enough midfield depth now. I want Kosi way more instead!

 

[Eski3]

I'd see getting rid of McDonald as natural list progression tbh. Draper is already ahead of him and Davies after this season might be as well. We'll cut 4-5 minimum and he's 30 this year - Don't see why we'd keep 'mature depth' when there's better or nearly as good younger depth in the same position tbh.

With Reidy it's not the club cutting him I'm worried about, it's him leaving for better opportunities.

Riddle would get another year easily if he shows anything. Longer if he shows a lot.

I would only be happy getting rid of McDonald if Davies actually comes on this year to be proper quality depth. McDonald seems like the perfect "break glass in case of emergency" player who is happy to play 4-5 AFL games in the event of injuries. We really could have used him when Pearce went down last year. If Davies can come on and is that kind of player this year then I don't see the point in retaining him beyond this year, but having a state league quality mature KPD depth on the rookie list is never a bad idea imo

 

[wakojako]

i dont even care for Warner. We have enough midfield depth now. I want Kosi way more instead!

Depends on what happens with Brayshaw. It should be a safe bet from him to stay at Fremantle but you never know these days.

 

[Dayts]

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Soon my sweet Kysaiah, soon

This guys unbelievable.

Big fat finger right in Melbournes eye each time he does this

 

[King Huskii]

This guys unbelievable.

Big fat finger right in Melbournes eye each time he does this

He may chicken out on moving or do this to ask Melbourne to pay more since the cap is growing

Players love to renegotiate

I feel it's just a tease

 

[Mesc]

Starting to feel uneasy over Brayshaw. If he hasnt signed before the season starts we are in for alot of media chatter.

 

[King Huskii]

Starting to feel uneasy over Brayshaw. If he hasnt signed before the season starts we are in for alot of media chatter.

Same

If he 100% wanted to stay I feel he would have already. I understand that Freo are making cap space to possibly lure another player but it could impact Brayshaw.

The club have been discussing things with Brayshaw for a while now. It can't be that complicated.

 

[Docker82]

I would only be happy getting rid of McDonald if Davies actually comes on this year to be proper quality depth. McDonald seems like the perfect "break glass in case of emergency" player who is happy to play 4-5 AFL games in the event of injuries. We really could have used him when Pearce went down last year. If Davies can come on and is that kind of player this year then I don't see the point in retaining him beyond this year, but having a state league quality mature KPD depth on the rookie list is never a bad idea imo

These types simply don't survive when they're 30 years old and there's players that are even nearly ready that play the same position.

I've had this argument every year on this board about random depth players and I don't think I've been wrong once.

He'll need to play a lot of games this year to survive.

 

[Taylor]

Alex Pearce - 2025
Brennan Cox - 2030
Josh Draper - 2027
Oscar McDonald - 2025
Luke Ryan out of position - 2027
Hugh Davies - 2026
Ollie Murphy - 2026
Charlie Nicholls - 2026

That's the order I see them in.

Based on current ability to compete at AFL level and not be a total liability, but assuming a season of growth out of Patrick Voss for convenience of argument, I might even prefer playing Luke Jackson as a tall defender and playing Patrick Voss as the forward ruck over Davies, Murphy and potentially even Draper.

Draper being the one that it's not fair to allow Voss a year of development but not him.

We have a glut of key defenders.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Starting to feel uneasy over Brayshaw. If he hasnt signed before the season starts we are in for alot of media chatter.

Who's on the table? Updated list of 2025 free agents revealed - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1264108

The talk in this article is positive.

Just negotiating over dollars and length.

 

[Docker82]

Alex Pearce - 2025
Brennan Cox - 2030
Josh Draper - 2027
Oscar McDonald - 2025
Luke Ryan out of position - 2027
Hugh Davies - 2026
Ollie Murphy - 2026
Charlie Nicholls - 2026

That's the order I see them in.

Based on current ability to compete at AFL level and not be a total liability, but assuming a season of growth out of Patrick Voss for convenience of argument, I might even prefer playing Luke Jackson as a tall defender and playing Patrick Voss as the forward ruck over Davies, Murphy and potentially even Draper.

Draper being the one that it's not fair to allow Voss a year of development but not him.

We have a glut of key defenders.

I think it’s worth asking whether there’s a massive difference between McDonald vs. Davies in 14 months (ie start of 2026 season).

If there isn’t going to be then it’s an easy decision.

Quite frankly I don’t think there’s enough of a difference now that it’d lose us many games we’d win.

It’s irrelevant to this discussion whether we lost any of those last four games because we didn’t have Pearce - Draper is playing ahead of McDonald anyway.

 

[Eski3]

I think it’s worth asking whether there’s a massive difference between McDonald vs. Davies in 14 months (ie start of 2026 season).

If there isn’t going to be then it’s an easy decision.

Quite frankly I don’t think there’s enough of a difference now that it’d lose us many games we’d win.

It’s irrelevant to this discussion whether we lost any of those last four games because we didn’t have Pearce - Draper is playing ahead of McDonald anyway.

Draper likely wouldn't have played a single game last year if McDonald was fit. They clearly like McDonald - he was given a round 1 debut WITH Cox, Pearce and Ryan. If Cox still went down and McDonald stayed fit he would have continued to play in the 22, and by the time Pearce went down Cox was back from injury.

We are only talking about delisting McDonald cos Draper showed so much. I'm not sure if Pearce goes down tomorrow that Draper is definitely ahead of McDonald in the order (in the coaching staff's eyes), and I think McDonald is clearly well ahead of Davies

 

[freo84]

I think it’s worth asking whether there’s a massive difference between McDonald vs. Davies in 14 months (ie start of 2026 season).

If there isn’t going to be then it’s an easy decision.

Quite frankly I don’t think there’s enough of a difference now that it’d lose us many games we’d win.

It’s irrelevant to this discussion whether we lost any of those last four games because we didn’t have Pearce - Draper is playing ahead of McDonald anyway.

Keep McDonald. He's decent coverage for any injuries. We really needed him last season when Pearce went down.

 

[Lach72]

“Sources have told The West that talks between his management and Fremantle have been ongoing and that “a lot would have to go wrong” for Pickett to not end up in purple next season.

Club insiders also told The West signing the 23-year-old was currently a high priority for the Dockers.”

 

[GingerDocker]

“Sources have told The West that talks between his management and Fremantle have been ongoing and that “a lot would have to go wrong” for Pickett to not end up in purple next season.

Club insiders also told The West signing the 23-year-old was currently a high priority for the Dockers.”

I need mooooooooore.

Seriously, I need more.

 

[Lach72]

2025: Sign Andy, trade in Pickett for a first ++, draft Whan and Hart.

2026: trade pick 18 into 2027 get points for Robinson…profit?

 

[Lach72]

Priapism commencing with forward line of Treacy, Jye, Freddy, Bolton, Sturt, Jacko and Kozzie Pickett