Teams 2025 Rate My Pre-Season Team

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[RoughysMullet]

Lots of Kents going with Flynn. Does he get the top ruck job at the Weagles or is it Bailey Williams

 

[Eagling]

For an extra 17k you can get Butters who plays the extra game early. Think Daicos as a mid only is a very easy fade this year as a starting pick

I think Daicos is a better starting pick than Butters, even with the bye. I don't see Butters going much better than what he's priced at and I feel he's just too brave to not get clobbered at some point, whereas Daicos could have another level to reachm

 

[Eagling]

Love the way this team is set up. I think you’re still probably one captain option short, need to have a couple of options early.

Yeah, that is a shortcoming. The other is the 'premium pairs' like Tracc and Clarry, Dawson and Rankine and Sheezel and LDU, where I can't loop them into each other. Though I did spend $700k on English last year and that failed spectacularly, though Bont would have been better.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Lots of Kents going with Flynn. Does he get the top ruck job at the Weagles or is it Bailey Williams

I looked at Flynn’s history yesterday …. didn’t realise how poor a scorer he is …. best season ave in the 70’s

Fingers crossed he represents better value than on paper

 

[cybajedi]

Lots of Kents going with Flynn. Does he get the top ruck job at the Weagles or is it Bailey Williams

We will find out in a few months. Presents value if he locks in the #1 ruck role.

 

[rocker_oz33]

He did have a three-season block with a fairly decent average, but only one of those were a full season.

If I were not already taking risks on other players then he’d be a consideration, albeit for a brief moment.

He’s less risk than a Cerra who has only had one decent year of SC scoring, but how many can you take?

I’m already toying with Short/Clarry/Cumming/Flynn types, not sure I want to add another burnt trade to the equation.

Trust you .

 

[VainGlorious]

Has anyone managed to crack the “Zero bucks, Zero ****s” code yet?

The closest I’ve gotten is $300 remaining.



I mean, I don’t hate it, but round 12 could get a little messy

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[Northernsoul74]

I looked at Flynn’s history yesterday …. didn’t realise how poor a scorer he is …. best season ave in the 70’s

Fingers crossed he represents better value than on paper

He’s never really been the number 1 ruck anywhere. I’m not convinced he will be at West Coast either.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Has anyone managed to crack the “Zero bucks, Zero ****s” code yet?

The closest I’ve gotten is $300 remaining.

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I mean, I don’t hate it, but round 12 could get a little messy

Spoiler

title of your sextape

Beats me, I’m currently $900 remaining.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm probably looking at something like (subject to prices and pre season games)
Def: Sheezel Stewart Mills Coleman El Hawli Bice Busslinger Allan

Mid: Bont Sinclair Daicos Hornet Travaglia Levi Draper Erasmus Lombard Hustwaite C Hall

Fwd: B Smith Daniel Macrae SPP/J Martin Hewett Kako Davidson Curtin

R: Xerri/Marshall Meek/Tdk Boyd (or a cheap rookie)

Unknowns for me are what to do with my ruck spots (genuinely undecided there) and also the flex player (trying to decide which line I want to cover the most).

 

[Eagling]

Has anyone managed to crack the “Zero bucks, Zero ****s” code yet?

The closest I’ve gotten is $300 remaining.

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I mean, I don’t hate it, but round 12 could get a little messy

Spoiler

title of your sextape

Fiddling around with my own team and stumbled upon this:



Probably not something I would actually play but everyone involved has a least a chance of looking at least somewhat relevant.

 

[Foxman98]

Bont is as close to bullet-proof as you can get in SC.

How people don't start him now is a mystery,

Hasn't gone under 115 average since 2019 (which was 114.7) and would've missed a handful of games in that stretch

 

[ArdentEagle]

I looked at Flynn’s history yesterday …. didn’t realise how poor a scorer he is …. best season ave in the 70’s

Fingers crossed he represents better value than on paper

 

[Pocket Aces]

I think Daicos is a better starting pick than Butters, even with the bye. I don't see Butters going much better than what he's priced at and I feel he's just too brave to not get clobbered at some point, whereas Daicos could have another level to reachm

Daicos with the one less game needs to average 5 points more to be a break even starting pick, you cant pick a team fearing collision injuries anyway.

Daicos with a probable Bedford tag in Rd 0 is an easy fade, people picking Flanders too. Just put a line through these guys for your starting side, must haves for a finished side but you can pick them up cheaper and bye free in upgrade season.

 

[St Steady]

I looked at Flynn’s history yesterday …. didn’t realise how poor a scorer he is …. best season ave in the 70’s

Fingers crossed he represents better value than on paper

calling this shifty mod out WaynesWorld19

2023 - ave 88 2022- ave 84 2021 - ave 87

 

[ArdentEagle]

Just found out this was open again - Here is V1.01 knocked up in 5 mins.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

calling this shifty mod out WaynesWorld19

2023 - ave 88 2022- ave 84 2021 - ave 87

He was probably thinking Draper the potato

 

[Eagling]

Daicos with the one less game needs to average 5 points more to be a break even starting pick, you cant pick a team fearing collision injuries anyway.

Daicos with a probable Bedford tag in Rd 0 is an easy fade, people picking Flanders too. Just put a line through these guys for your starting side, must haves for a finished side but you can pick them up cheaper and bye free in upgrade season.

I don’t disagree on your points, but someone like Daicos could easily start like a house on fire and be out of reach without ripping up your team. The good news is that we'll be able to see Daicos's Round 0 score.

I just think there's more of a chance of Daicos averaging 122 than Butters backing up a 120 avg over 23 games.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

I don’t disagree on your points, but someone like Daicos could easily start like a house on fire and be out of reach without ripping up your team. The good news is that we'll be able to see Daicos's Round 0 score.

I just think there's more of a chance of Daicos averaging 122 than Butters backing up a 120 avg over 23 games.

 

[Eagling]

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Suggesting that Nick Daicos can outscore Zak Butters by about 50 points over the course of the season is a far colder take than when I said that Lachie Neale would outscore Nat Fyfe by 500+ points in 2020 pre-season.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

calling this shifty mod out WaynesWorld19

2023 - ave 88 2022- ave 84 2021 - ave 87

Ooopps ….. that was Flynn’s Fantasy ave

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Suggesting that Nick Daicos can outscore Zak Butters by about 50 points over the course of the season is a far colder take than when I said that Lachie Neale would outscore Nat Fyfe by 500+ points in 2020 pre-season.

FWIW I think both will go 125+ next year

 

[Eagling]

FWIW I think both will go 125+ next year

This is what I mean when I say that people vastly overestimate the amount of scoring players will achieve.

Here is a list of all Supercoach averages of 125+ in reverse chronological order:

2024:

126.8 Marcus Bontempelli

2023:

129.7 Marcus Bontempelli
128.0 Tim English

2022:

127.8 Rory Laird
127.1 Clayton Oliver

2021:

128.6 Jack Macrae
126.0 Jack Steele

2020:

139.9 Max Gawn
134.4 Lachie Neale

2019:

130.0 Brodie Grundy
128.4 Max Gawn

2018:

130.5 Brodie Grundy
129.1 Tom Mitchell
127.5 Max Gawn
127.1 Jack Macrae

2017:

136.4 Patrick Dangerfield

2016:

131.8 Patrick Dangerfield

2015:

128.8 Todd Goldstein

2014:

136.7 Gary Ablett Jr.
126.2 Scott Pendlebury

2013:

128.8 Gary Ablett Jr.
126.6 Scott Pendlebury

2012:

139.2 Gary Ablett Jr.

2011:

127.7 Scott Pendlebury
125.2 Dean Cox.

I don't have easy access to stats before 2011.

You could be right, but you're basically saying that Butters and Daicos will be the best 2 players in Supercoach in 2025, with the small caveat if you prefer aggregate over average, and reckon 120 over 23 games beats 125 over 22 games, or if you think the average split will be lower at the start of the season (Say 115 over the first 8 weeks then
130ish for the rest of the season
).

Without those caveats, you're basically picking Butters and Daicos M1 and M2 right now.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Personally, I think Butters averages about 122 BUT he plays like a maniac, he'll get injured/suspended at some point.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

This is what I mean when I say that people vastly overestimate the amount of scoring players will achieve.

Here is a list of all Supercoach averages of 125+ in reverse chronological order:

2024:

126.8 Marcus Bontempelli

2023:

129.7 Marcus Bontempelli
128.0 Tim English

2022:

127.8 Rory Laird
127.1 Clayton Oliver

2021:

128.6 Jack Macrae
126.0 Jack Steele

2020:

139.9 Max Gawn
134.4 Lachie Neale

2019:

130.0 Brodie Grundy
128.4 Max Gawn

2018:

130.5 Brodie Grundy
129.1 Tom Mitchell
127.5 Max Gawn
127.1 Jack Macrae

2017:

136.4 Patrick Dangerfield

2016:

131.8 Patrick Dangerfield

2015:

128.8 Todd Goldstein

2014:

136.7 Gary Ablett Jr.
126.2 Scott Pendlebury

2013:

128.8 Gary Ablett Jr.
126.6 Scott Pendlebury

2012:

139.2 Gary Ablett Jr.

2011:

127.7 Scott Pendlebury
125.2 Dean Cox.

I don't have easy access to stats before 2011.

You could be right, but you're basically saying that Butters and Daicos will be the best 2 players in Supercoach in 2025, with the small caveat if you prefer aggregate over average, and reckon 120 over 23 games beats 125 over 22 games, or if you think the average split will be lower at the start of the season (Say 115 over the first 8 weeks then
130ish for the rest of the season
).

Without those caveats, you're basically picking Butters and Daicos M1 and M2 right now.

Love it when facts are used here.

We all come over a bit optimistic in the off season. Daicos is an upgrade target, Butters a starter if you like him.