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For rookies/mid priced players it's fine for Premos it's not in theory in R3 you could have multiples of Dunkley/Neale/Stewart/Holmes/Daicos/Houston/Henney/Gulden/Warner,

You could easily have 3-4 of these guys in your team which could leave you with only 7-10 premos for the week which early days is a massive difference for instance on last year if you went Daicos over Serong you lost about 100 points once you take out Nicks R0 score
Good point. You still need to be mindful of who you take, you don't want to completely cripple your team for that early round, but if you spread it out over the 8 teams, then you're fine.

Also depends on team structure. If you're going full GnR with mostly top line premos, a few value picks, then rookies, yeah, you're right, you'd be screwed. But if you're going with more of a MPM approach, very few top line premos, lots of underpriced premos and value picks, then you can afford to do it more because you'll have less rookies on-field.

Just looked at my starting side, last year I had 12/30 rd0 players in my starting side. Not sure if that's a lot compared to others (would be interesting to compare). From memory, having lots of rd0 didn't hurt me early on. It was more about the players I chose/didn't chose than then the rd0 factor.

Obviously way too early to mean anything because it includes random rookies, but my current team has 13/31 rd0 players, 7 with the rd3 bye.
 
Good point. You still need to be mindful of who you take, you don't want to completely cripple your team for that early round, but if you spread it out over the 8 teams, then you're fine.

Also depends on team structure. If you're going full GnR with mostly top line premos, a few value picks, then rookies, yeah, you're right, you'd be screwed. But if you're going with more of a MPM approach, very few top line premos, lots of underpriced premos and value picks, then you can afford to do it more because you'll have less rookies on-field.

Just looked at my starting side, last year I had 12/30 rd0 players in my starting side. Not sure if that's a lot compared to others (would be interesting to compare). From memory, having lots of rd0 didn't hurt me early on. It was more about the players I chose/didn't chose than then the rd0 factor.

Obviously way too early to mean anything because it includes random rookies, but my current team has 13/31 rd0 players, 7 with the rd3 bye.
Personally can't pass up on value like Mills/B.Smith types but will start Serong over Daicos, Sheezel over Flanders, LDU over Green/Gulden

They will 100% get into my team at some point after the early bye but none of them to me are like a Bont where they are that good you know they'll make up the extra 100 odd points early

Daicos again great example was averaging 106 and dropped 90k by his bye last year
 
Personally can't pass up on value like Mills/B.Smith types but will start Serong over Daicos, Sheezel over Flanders, LDU over Green/Gulden

They will 100% get into my team at some point after the early bye but none of them to me are like a Bont where they are that good you know they'll make up the extra 100 odd points early
I like Green, and reckon he's great value .....but he has the R2 Bye ..then in R3 he gets the HAW "Glove"

He'll be a quick upgrade though after R4
 

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I picked a heap of rd0 players last year, had a decent season in the end. I'll do the same again this year. Any rd0 player I have my eye on, if they do well in rd0, they're in. I don't think it's as simple as "their total points will be less". With best 18 scores in the bye rounds, you can afford to take them imo.


that's the problem with rd0, not avoiding the rd0 players, it's that everybody will pick the good-looking rd0 players if they dominate in rd0.
Yeah round zero is not that big of a deal unless you go overboard. Last years winner had 10/30 that played OR. 4 of those were premiums. I wouldn't be avoiding players just because of the early bye. Balance across the teams is important for later bye rounds any way.
 
Yeah round zero is not that big of a deal unless you go overboard. Last years winner had 10/30 that played OR. 4 of those were premiums. I wouldn't be avoiding players just because of the early bye. Balance across the teams is important for later bye rounds any way.
Last year was different though Daicos was Def Heeney + Flanders fwd were all significantly better then most in their lines
 
Last year was different though Daicos was Def Heeney + Flanders fwd were all significantly better then most in their lines
Heeney is the perfect example of how R0 helped us. Many (myself included, probably) would not have started him without seeing him play midfield in R0. Lots still didn't, which was a huge miss given he slowed down after his bye. All those that traded him in then locked in the loss, but you couldn't really not do it.
 
Heeney is the perfect example of how R0 helped us. Many (myself included, probably) would not have started him without seeing him play midfield in R0. Lots still didn't, which was a huge miss given he slowed down after his bye. All those that traded him in then locked in the loss, but you couldn't really not do it.
Spot on where as this year 90% of the premos are mids where there are heaps of options that don't have the byes at all price points similar in the backline
 
Spot on where as this year 90% of the premos are mids where there are heaps of options that don't have the byes at all price points similar in the backline
Yes, IMO the mid premo's will be the key selections this year. There are a LOT of options, nailing the right ones will be crucial given we will all have identical forward lines.
 
Yes, IMO the mid premo's will be the key selections this year. There are a LOT of options, nailing the right ones will be crucial given we will all have identical forward lines.
Also think the ruck line will be a key selection most will have Xerri it'll be who does well out of Gawn/Marshall/English
 
Yeah true. Hard to ignore Xerri's finish to the year. TdK and Meek also good options.
Meek having the extra bye made him unpickable for me he will be a solid scorer but being a game behind the other 4 I can't see him scoring enough to make up the missed points,

If one of them is spluttering not the worst sideways after the bye
 

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Meek having the extra bye made him unpickable for me he will be a solid scorer but being a game behind the other 4 I can't see him scoring enough to make up the missed points,

If one of them is spluttering not the worst sideways after the bye
True, but if you have Flynn as Flex and a R/F @ R3 he can be covered. If you thought he was under-priced enough to start that is. Only Hawthorn and Essendon on that bye. Neither have many good SC options.
 
Any Hawthorn fans that can provide advice re Sicily and where he's been training? I was hoping that Barass would free him up to intercept to his little heart's content, and Battle would be the guy to shift forward if help is required up there. But nervous Sic will be the one to go and help in the forward line, and scores of 140+ could end up being 60.
 
Any Hawthorn fans that can provide advice re Sicily and where he's been training? I was hoping that Barass would free him up to intercept to his little heart's content, and Battle would be the guy to shift forward if help is required up there. But nervous Sic will be the one to go and help in the forward line, and scores of 140+ could end up being 60.
I would have been very confident on Sicily with the recent additions and blanck to return at some stage, but with and aging gunston and injured Dear, I have my concerns now. But no, haven't been to any training sessions.
 
Just booted it up for the first time since the final round last year. Roast me someone 🔥

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McKercher playing midfield this year
Gibcus unlikely for R1 (might have to play now with Belta locked up)
Little Nicky early bye
Parish will do a calf 10 mins into the first match
Hodor
There are better options than Baker

Nice team kentie :moustache:
 
OK Fellas 2 versions here.

1st version with Darcy Cameron Flex and Allen D7/Lindsay M8

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2nd version with Clark D3 & Allen replaced with $99k Rookie but Lindsay becomes NOD.
Oliver Flex and all 6 rookies on ground in the Midfield.

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OK Fellas 2 versions here.

1st version with Darcy Cameron Flex and Allen D7/Lindsay M8

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2nd version with Clark D3 & Allen replaced with $99k Rookie but Lindsay becomes NOD.
Oliver Flex and all 6 rookies on ground in the Midfield.

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IMO you can't start a rookie at M4. You are leaving too many premo mid's to trade in during the year. Sure there will be bargains but you will need most of Daicos, Serong, Butters, Merrett, etc. It will cost too much to get all/most of them.

I'd give up Bolton, he's not so underpriced you can't get him later if needed off a down game. Freo are a high scoring SC team, he won't score consistently well enough to hurt you.
 
IMO you can't start a rookie at M4. You are leaving too many premo mid's to trade in during the year. Sure there will be bargains but you will need most of Daicos, Serong, Butters, Merrett, etc. It will cost too much to get all/most of them.

I'd give up Bolton, he's not so underpriced you can't get him later if needed off a down game. Freo are a high scoring SC team, he won't score consistently well enough to hurt you.

So you'd rather spend more to start them? (magic number means prices trend down over the course of the season), and forgo a spot where generally the best cash generation and rookie scoring is.

That's a logical fallacy.
 
IMO you can't start a rookie at M4. You are leaving too many premo mid's to trade in during the year. Sure there will be bargains but you will need most of Daicos, Serong, Butters, Merrett, etc. It will cost too much to get all/most of them.

I'd give up Bolton, he's not so underpriced you can't get him later if needed off a down game. Freo are a high scoring SC team, he won't score consistently well enough to hurt you.

The highest scoring rookies are normally midfielders and with Rounds 2,3,4 being bye rounds it's best 18 anyway. I doubt anyone will be starting with more than 5 premos in the midfield and 1 or 2 will probably midpricers like Oliver,Ashcroft & Parish. Also come Round 6 there will be even more Premos to move Mid if I want who will get DPP Sheezle,Mills,Macrae.
Also with Bolton I am going with my gut and think he will end up a Top 6 Forward and he has a great Bye round as well.
 
So you'd rather spend more to start them? (magic number means prices trend down over the course of the season), and forgo a spot where generally the best cash generation and rookie scoring is.

That's a logical fallacy.
You're spending more to get everyone, all players use the same magic number no? All players get cheaper through the year.

SC is about points on field in the end, if he plays the first 6-10 weeks without many SP mid's he could be hundreds of points down by the time he trades them in.

We also have a finite number of trades. To get players over $600k, which is where many of those midfielders will be, he will need to use 3 (or more) trades on each upgrade. Those teams he posted require another 6 premo mid's. If he spends 18 trades on those positions he'll never finish his team.

IMO that strategy leaves too much to do later on.
 

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