Position 2025 Rucks

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

English struggled with the new ruck rules last year.

The stronger body ruckman were able to push him around too easily.

Missed a chunk of PS due to concussion issues from memory. Ill back him in, went 128 the year before.

 

[Deliverance]

English struggled with the new ruck rules last year.

The stronger body ruckman were able to push him around too easily.

His HOTA were down 2.5 per game last year

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

His HOTA were down 2.5 per game last year

He's going to have PTSD all season after what Cherri does to him in round one

 

[buttox]

He's going to have PTSD all season after what Cherri does to him in round one

X does injure opposition rucks a lot.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Last year in the first 8 rounds English went

119 vs Gawn
138 vs Witts
124 vs West Coast
117 vs Geelong
58 vs Goldy and Draper
114 vs Marshall
134 vs Jackson and Darcy
135 vs Meek

8 games at over 117. Against good rucks too. In general play I think the new rules hurt him, but in SC I think it was more the lack of pre season.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Just looking at his numbers a bit more. 112 average pre bye, 100 post bye. Only gameplay change we had was Lobb going back and Richards into the middle so that wouldn’t effect him.

Played good rucks in both post and pre bye. Don’t think he averages 128 again but he also doesn’t have to for him to be a good bye.

Also think we sometimes fall into the trap of a ruck has a “down” year after going nuts and they can’t get back there. Think almost every ruck fluctuates a bit.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Gawn went 102, 118, 91, 127 when breaking out. I understand the risk but youd pretty much cook your season (like many did with English last year) if you got Xerri at his price and he doesn’t back it up, while English returns to 110+.

 

[Foxman98]

Gawn went 102, 118, 91, 127 when breaking out. I understand the risk but youd pretty much cook your season (like many did with English last year) if you got Xerri at his price and he doesn’t back it up, while English returns to 110+.

Or you go both because you think Xerri can back it up and English goes back to his best

 

[Choppers]

Or you go both because you think Xerri can back it up and English goes back to his best

Thought of doing that.....but both with rd12 bye has me concerned.

 

[Foxman98]

Thought of doing that.....but both with rd12 bye has me concerned.

No different to when Gawn and Grundy used to have the same bye Flex this year helps cover it even more just need 18 playing

 

[Deliverance]

Or you go both because you think Xerri can back it up and English goes back to his best

Or, Xerri dosnt back it up and english doesnt go back to his best, and then your screwed because Gawn and TDK dominate

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Just looking at his numbers a bit more. 112 average pre bye, 100 post bye. Only gameplay change we had was Lobb going back and Richards into the middle so that wouldn’t effect him.

Played good rucks in both post and pre bye. Don’t think he averages 128 again but he also doesn’t have to for him to be a good bye.

Also think we sometimes fall into the trap of a ruck has a “down” year after going nuts and they can’t get back there. Think almost every ruck fluctuates a bit.

Read somewhere WB had significantly less stoppages last year. English is terrible at HTA but got a lot of possessions around stoppages, so this hurt his scoring. Maybe ran out of steam due to a reduced preseason. Darcy becoming more influential wouldn't have helped.

Maybe Bevo finally stopped him getting the cowardly cheap touches at half back too?

 

[Deliverance]

Read somewhere WB had significantly less stoppages last year. English is terrible at HTA but got a lot of possessions around stoppages, so this hurt his scoring. Maybe ran out of steam due to a reduced preseason. Darcy becoming more influential wouldn't have helped.

Maybe Bevo finally stopped him getting the cowardly cheap touches at half back too?

Apparently he's set to have a big role mopping up across HB in 2025

 

[timtimtim]

Apparently he's set to have a big role mopping up across HB in 2025

Is “mopping up across HB” the new “training down the house”?

 

[Souup]

2 141s against English skews that a lot. No doubt he could put up a massive score on english and be averaging 115 again from those first 5 but i’m happy to bet against it. He averaged 101 against the other 4. And i think you’re underestimating the tackle numbers. 8 per game is massive and has only really been done by defensive mids. If that drops by 2 we’re looking at a loss of 8 points per game

Dude leave it, let them pick Xerri.

Anti-PODing him makes way too much sense.

 

[Ash1337]

Any Lions posters know what is happening with the forward and ruck now that Daniher is no longer playing? Fort at 190k is looking good if they're splitting duties.