Retired #21: Dyson Heppell - Goodnight, sweet prince. What a legend! 🤙 - 24/8

[Lore]

Contract Status: Unrestricted Free Agent 2024
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 27, Highly Evolved

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Is this some sought of a joke?

"Keystone agony said"

Yeah, it's a joke. At least it's better for your view of humanity if you treat it as a joke and pretend no one is that stupid.

 

[BrunoV]

Heppell is easily the most consistent youngster in the competition because he hasn't experienced any lows and hasn't scaled a Bennell type height but is regarded as the best young player by the coaches and came second in our BnF (I think are pretty good objective indications of his consistency).

Don't get sucked into the ill-considered drivel that was doing the rounds before Heppell received his accolades. Year 2 was even better and there is a hell of a lot of improvement (especially physical) left for Heppell.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

Problem for Heppell was he was already being judged at ridiculously high standards due to his amazing first year. It is like people saying Buddy was just ok when he kicks 4 goals, yet Roughead does it and he had a super game. We expect and demand more from Heppell than any other kid, that is why many saw this year as just ok.

I also heard he was struglling to run due to blisters or something. He certainly lost a yeard of pace the second half of this year.

 

[Slattery_20]

Brad Sewell or Scott Pendlebury?

See I don't see a heap of Sewell in Conca's game at all. Really really under-rates Conca's pace & kicking IMHO, and somewhat over-states his inside & defensive game. Sewell would crunch Conca inside and Conca would torch him outside.
IMHO he's just a good all-rounder. Sort of Goodwin-ish, if anything.

But then again, I never got the 'Melksham = Hayes' comparison that was de riguer around here this time last year either. Guess that's just me.

 

[Kong]

It was a throwaway line, chillaxe.

 

[BrunoV]

See I don't see a heap of Sewell in Conca's game at all. Really really under-rates Conca's pace & kicking IMHO, and somewhat over-states his inside & defensive game. Sewell would crunch Conca inside and Conca would torch him outside.
IMHO he's just a good all-rounder. Sort of Goodwin-ish, if anything.

But then again, I never got the 'Melksham = Hayes' comparison that was de riguer around here this time last year either. Guess that's just me.

He has a similar loping gait. That is about as far as it went for me.

 

[Donakebab]

Who gives a flying **** what some Richmond deadshits thinks of our players? This is the same bunch of nuffies that think Richo > Lloyd and Knights > Hird.

 

[DaSawx]

Who gives a flying **** what some Richmond deadshits thinks of our players? This is the same bunch of nuffies that think Richo > Lloyd and Knights > Hird.

And Bachar > someone that tackles.

 

[Jesse G]

Heppel is slightly overrated on here by bombers supporters... He is going along nicely - but i think he has alot of areas of improvement , which is a good thing - Have seen conca play some good footy.. heppel well ahead of conco just like watson is miles ahead of cotchin.
SImple!

 

[eth-dog]

Heppel is slightly overrated on here by bombers supporters... He is going along nicely - but i think he has alot of areas of improvement , which is a good thing - Have seen conca play some good footy.. heppel well ahead of conco just like watson is miles ahead of cotchin.
SImple!

Compare stats:

Heppell: A lot more kicks, handballs, marks and UP per game, shading Conca in I50's, Goal Assists, CP, rebound 50's, bounces, Contested marks and 1%'s.

Conca: shades Heppell in tackles, DE% and clearances.

Hepp has Conca covered quite easily right now. Cotchin and Watson are far closer together.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

Compare stats:

Heppell: A lot more kicks, handballs, marks and UP per game, shading Conca in I50's, Goal Assists, CP, rebound 50's, bounces, Contested marks and 1%'s.

Conca: shades Heppell in tackles, DE% and clearances.

Hepp has Conca covered quite easily right now. Cotchin and Watson are far closer together.

You forgot

Heppell -2nd in BnF

Conca - Outside top 11.

Yup they are tacking similarly.

 

[EBCantona]

Heppell will be a star, Conca plays for Richmond so he'll never achieve anything.

 

[Rack Watts]

You forgot

Heppell -2nd in BnF

Conca - Outside top 11.

Yup they are tacking similarly.

To be fair, Richmond has a better list than us.
Especially the final 7-8 in their best 22.

 

[carnthedons]

To be fair, Richmond has a better list than us.
Especially the final 17-18 in their best 22.

EFA

 

[Rack Watts]

EFA

You're right, I should probably concede this, it was just too hard to say.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

To be fair, Richmond has a better list than us.
Especially the final 7-8 in their best 22.

As has been shown by their dominance over us on the ladder for the past 2 seasons. Oh wait....

 

[Pevers-Legend]

The interesting thing about Heppell this year was it was a clear development year in the second half as he played much more game time in the middle. And the pleasing thing was he steadily improved. I think if anything, he panicked too much in the middle thinking he had to be quicker than he did. As he became accustomed to the speed in the middle, his output lifted.

I look fwd to him developing into a version of Pendlebury (not likley better, but let's hope so).

 

[TheDon35]

The interesting thing about Heppell this year was it was a clear development year in the second half as he played much more game time in the middle. And the pleasing thing was he steadily improved. I think if anything, he panicked too much in the middle thinking he had to be quicker than he did. As he became accustomed to the speed in the middle, his output lifted.

I look fwd to him developing into a version of Pendlebury (not likley better, but let's hope so).

Yep. He was one of the real positives for us this year. Yes he made some errors in the middle but so did the Brownlow medalist. I think his second year was better than his first and his potential to reach top 5 in the comp is there.

One touch, time with the ball, clean disposal, good over head, versatile... I wouldn't trade him for anyone.

 

[Slattery_20]

The interesting thing about Heppell this year was it was a clear development year in the second half as he played much more game time in the middle. And the pleasing thing was he steadily improved. I think if anything, he panicked too much in the middle thinking he had to be quicker than he did. As he became accustomed to the speed in the middle, his output lifted.

I look fwd to him developing into a version of Pendlebury (not likley better, but let's hope so).

Exactly.
Had a down patch, when he first went in there, then picked up markedly and played some very good footy in challenging roles.

 

[Zach Package]

time for a thread title change.

Richmond wouldn't know talent if it bludgeoned them over the head

 

[Rack Watts]

Richmond wouldn't know talent if it bludgeoned them over the head

Oh really? I was complimented by the fact their recruiters were contacting me constantly.

 

[BrunoV]

To be fair, Richmond has a better list than us.
Especially the final 7-8 in their best 22.

I have a very different interpretation of their strengths.

Elite top end talent propping up a list that hardly bats below 15 or 16 at this stage.

 

[Rack Watts]

I have a very different interpretation of their strengths.

Elite top end talent propping up a list that hardly bats below 15 or 16 at this stage.

 

[BrunoV]

Like I said we seem to be at the opposite ends of this debate.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Most certainly with Bruno V on that topic.

That being said, this isn't the thread for it. Take it to the Non-Essendon thread if needs be.