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So this is my thinking. I am thinking this could be an all encompassing 21st century mock draft. This is we line up every player drafted in the 21st century as an 18 year old, knowing the players they became and we decide who goes where.

For the draft order I am thinking the current ladder

So

Pick 1 - North Melbourne
Pick 2 - Richmond
Pick 3 - West Coast
Pick 4 - Adelaide
Pick 5 - St Kilda
Pick 6 - Brisbane
Pick 7 - Hawthorn
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs
Pick 9 - Melbourne
Pick 10 - Gold Coast
Pick 11 - GWS
Pick 12 - Fremantle
Pick 13 - Collingwood
Pick 14 - Geelong
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide
Pick 16 - Essendon
Pick 17 - Carlton
Pick 18 - Sydney

and so on for 3 rounds.

The rules are to treat this like an actual mock draft, so pick the player who is either best available or best suits your list.

So my general idea is people will nominate a club they want to pick for, and hopefully we get enough people who want to participate so we don't have any double ups. I hope to go for 3 rounds but we will see how it goes.

Now the rule here is that you are only able to pick players who were drafted in the 2000 draft or later, I know technically 2000 is not the 21st century but these players would have only started playing in 2001 which is the 21st century. I have also made some lists of players who have won the All Australian at least 3 times, but also included some other awards too, but by no means do you only need to select from the list.

You are also free to nominate someone who has been retired for 5 years, or if you feel really confident, happy to include a player who is only in their second year, if you believe they have enough talent to be ahead of more established players. For instance it would not surprise me if Nick Daicos or Harley Reid end up in the first or second rounds despite having very little experience compared to a lot of players on this list.

So here we go

Key Forwards
8 – Lance Franklin | 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018
5 - Tom Hawkins | 2012, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
5 - Nick Riewoldt | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2014
3 - Jeremy Cameron | 2013, 2019, 2022
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2015, 2018

Key Defenders
5 - Alex Rance | 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018
4 - Jeremy McGovern | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

Ruckmen
6 - Dean Cox | 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012
6 - Max Gawn | 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
4 - Aaron Sandilands | 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014
3 - Nick Naitanui | 2012, 2020, 2021

Midfielder
8 – Gary Ablett Jr. | 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
8 – Patrick Dangerfield | 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
6 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
6 - Joel Selwood | 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017
6 - Scott Pendlebury | 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2019
5 - Dane Swan | 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
5 - Marcus Bontempelli | 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023
4 - Dustin Martin | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020
4 - Christian Petracca | 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Clayton Oliver | 2018, 2021, 2022
3 - Patrick Cripps | 2018, 2019, 2022
3 - Travis Boak | 2013, 2014, 2020
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2012, 2014, 2016
3 - Sam Mitchell | 2011, 2013, 2015

Other Defenders
5 - Tom Stewart | 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Luke Hodge | 2005, 2008, 2010

Other Forwards
4 - Cyril Rioli | 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
3 - Eddie Betts | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Tom Greene | 2016, 2021, 2023
3 - Robby Grey | 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018

Coleman Medal
4 - Lance Franklin | 2008, 2011, 2014, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2012, 2018
2 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016
2 - Charlie Curnow | 2022, 2023
1 - Tom Hawkins | 2021
1 - Jeremy Carmeron | 2019
1 - Jarryd Roughead | 2013

Norm Smith Medal
3 - Dustin Martin | 2017, 2019, 2020
2 - Luke Hodge | 2008, 2014

Brownlow Medal
2 - Gary Ablett Jnr | 2009, 2013
2 - Nate Fyfe | 2015, 2019
2 - Lachie Neale | 2020, 2023
2 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2010

If I have missed anyone who has 3 All Australians or more feel very free to tell me.

For anyone who wants to refresh their memories

en.wikipedia.org

All-Australian team - Wikipedia

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List of Brownlow Medal winners - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Norm Smith Medal - Wikipedia

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North Melbourne Sphynx
Richmond reggie
West Coast ArdentEagle
Adelaide eth-dog
St Kilda Mr Meow
Brisbane eth-dog
Hawthorn Guardian Hawk
Western Bulldogs PhoenixBonez
Melbourne MarcMaverick
Gold Coast WilloTree
GWS boncer34
Fremantle Purple7x08_24
Collingwood Fadge
Geelong Lingsface
Port Adelaide whatwhatsaywhat
Essendon RedmanWasHere
Carlton MC Bad Genius
Sydney theasian

If anyone wants to be assigned a specific team please say so. Lets see if this works :p

and so far

Pick 1 - North Melbourne - Lance Franklin
Pick 2 - Richmond - Gary Ablett Jnr
Pick 3 - West Coast - Max Gawn
Pick 4 - Adelaide - Chris Judd
Pick 5 - St Kilda - Patrick Dangerfield
Pick 6 - Brisbane - Dean Cox
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Nick Riewoldt
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs - Marcus Bontempelli
Pick 9 - Melbourne - Dustin Martin
Pick 10 - Gold Coast - Josh Kennedy (KPF)
Pick 11 - GWS - Alex Rance
Pick 12 - Fremantle - Charlie Curnow
Pick 13 - Collingwood - Joel Selwood
Pick 14 - Geelong - Nate Fyfe
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide - Tom Stewart
Pick 16 - Essendon - Mark Coughlan
Pick 17 - Carlton - Aaron Sandilands
Pick 18 - Sydney - Brian Lake

Round 2
Pick 19 - North Melbourne - Scott Pendlebury
Pick 20 - Richmond - Jeremy Cameron
Pick 21 - West Coast - Luke Hodge
Pick 22 - Adelaide - Brodie Grundy
Pick 23 - St Kilda - Dane Swan
Pick 24 - Brisbane - Harry Taylor
Pick 25 - Hawthorn - Christian Petracca
Pick 26 - Western Bulldogs - Jeremy McGovern
Pick 27 - Melbourne - Jack Riewoldt
Pick 28 - Gold Coast - Shannon Hurn
Pick 29 - GWS - Jaryd Roughead
Pick 30 - Fremantle - Brendon Goddard
Pick 31 - Collingwood - Tom Hawkins
Pick 32 - Geelong- Zach Merrett
Pick 33 - Port Adelaide - Tom Lynch
Pick 34 - Essendon - Ben McEvoy
Pick 35 - Carlton - Stephen Milne
Pick 36 - Sydney - Taylor Walker

Round 3
Pick 37 - North Melboune - Steve Johnson
Pick 38 - Richmond - Nic Naitanui
Pick 39 - West Coast - Cyril Rioli
Pick 40 - Adelaide - Michael Hurley
Pick 41 - St Kilda - Toby Greene
Pick 42 - Brisbane - Andrew Mackie
Pick 43 - Hawthorn - Harris Andrews
Pick 44 - Western Bulldogs - Eddie Betts
Pick 45 - Melbourne - Lachie Neale
Pick 46 - Gold Coast - Harley Reid
Pick 47 - GWS - Nick Daicos
Pick 48 - Fremantle - Leigh Montagna
Pick 49 - Collingwood - Jacob Weitering
Pick 50 - Geelong - Daniel Kerr
Pick 51 - Port Adelaide - Kysaiah Pickett
Pick 52 - Essendon - Drew Petrie
Pick 53 - Carlton - Nick Blakey
Pick 54 - Sydney - Sam Mitchell

Round 4
Pick 55 - North Melbourne - Darcy Moore
Pick 56 - Richmond - Jimmy Bartel
Pick 57 - West Coast - Patrick Cripps
Pick 58 - Adelaide - Luke Breust
Pick 59 - St Kilda - Shaun Burgoyne
Pick 60 - Brisbane - Steele Sidebottom
Pick 61 - Hawthorn - Steven May
Pick 62 - Western Bulldogs - Josh Gibson
Pick 63 - Melbourne - Mark Blitcavs
Pick 64 - Gold Coast - Michael Walters
Pick 65 - GWS - Bradley Hill
Pick 66 - Fremantle - Izak Rankine
Pick 67 - Collingwood - Josh Kennedy (mid)
Pick 68 - Geelong - Joe Daniher
Pick 69 - Port Adelaide - Clayton Oliver
Pick 70 - Essendon - Daniel Talia
Pick 71 - Carlton - Sam Taylor
Pick 72 - Sydney - Robbie Gray
 
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Mr Meow said:
The okay ones from the 90s is probably where I still struggle despite watching footy back then. It gets harder to remember "non stars" outside of your own club from that far back. We had Mansfield and Sanderson, Sholl and McGrath - although he still played on the big boys.

Hunt, Wojo, Milburn, Tuohy all decent to very good from more recent years.

Reducing to "just okay" is hard, but a bunch of good to ultra elite half backs/back pockets over the years: McLeod, C.Johnson, Smart, Pickett, Peckett, Sexton, Bowden, Birchall, the Scott's, Darrell White, Heuskes, Montgomery, S.Burgoyne, Malcheski, Barry, Wirrpunda, Fisher, Murphy, Wellman, Archer, Gilbee, C.Brown, Clement, N.Smith, Shaw, M.Johnson, McVeigh, Docherty, Laird, Whitfield, Ryan, Rich, Saad, Sinclair, Houston, Blakey.
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Good list here!
I’d add D Mundy, G McKenna, J Worsfold, A Mackie, J Gram, B Goddard, B Houli, J McVeigh, B Waters, L Gilbee,.

90s average back flanker/pockets
(Your right this is hard)
S McManus, P Wilson, P Dean, G Manton, G Harding, D Mensch, G Freeborn, T Evans
 
Lingsface said:
Good list here!
I’d add D Mundy, G McKenna, J Worsfold, A Mackie, J Gram, B Goddard, B Houli, J McVeigh, B Waters, L Gilbee,.

90s average back flanker/pockets
(Your right this is hard)
S McManus, P Wilson, P Dean, G Manton, G Harding, D Mensch, G Freeborn, T Evans
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Mr Meow said:
The okay ones from the 90s is probably where I still struggle despite watching footy back then. It gets harder to remember "non stars" outside of your own club from that far back. We had Mansfield and Sanderson, Sholl and McGrath - although he still played on the big boys.

Hunt, Wojo, Milburn, Tuohy all decent to very good from more recent years.

Reducing to "just okay" is hard, but a bunch of good to ultra elite half backs/back pockets over the years: McLeod, C.Johnson, Smart, Pickett, Peckett, Sexton, Bowden, Birchall, the Scott's, Darrell White, Heuskes, Montgomery, S.Burgoyne, Malcheski, Barry, Wirrpunda, Fisher, Murphy, Wellman, Archer, Gilbee, C.Brown, Clement, N.Smith, Shaw, M.Johnson, McVeigh, Docherty, Laird, Whitfield, Ryan, Rich, Saad, Sinclair, Houston, Blakey.
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In many ways, the second part of this was exactly my earlier point. I'm definitely old enough to include the 90's but if we do, there won't be any picking of "just ok" players or good role players like those being named. The teams won't resemble real teams or require any selecting of the next tier as every team will just be the elite in basically every position.

Take the half back example we have been using - with 18 teams, we need 36 half back flankers to fill the roles. Even if we only use the '21st century' eligible players - I've counted that there have been at least 32 different players named All Australian on a half back flank drafted since 2000. That doesn't count other AA's that have played chunks of their careers there like Shaun Burgoyne, Callum Mills, Elliot Yeo, Nick Daicos, Jordan Dawson, Dayne Zorko, etc, etc. It also doesn't count anyone named in a back pocket that you could easily play at half back as well - like Luke Ryan, James Sicily, Tom Stewart, Brayden Maynard, etc, etc. It also doesn't count all of the elite midfielders that you could have the luxury to select on a half back flank once the few on field midfield positions are filled (there will be tons of these). It also doesn't count the top line half back flankers who were unlucky never to be named All Australian or haven't been yet (Harry Sheezel, Kade Simpson, Hayden Young, etc.).

If you add the 90's as well, there are so many to pick from that all 18 teams will look much better than a standard All Australian team (where you can pick gun mids all over the place, etc). This makes sense, given there are 18 teams but there have been 35 All Australian teams. No one will get to the "ok" players (such as those being named in this thread) simply because we don't have to. No one will need to pick real wingers, half forward flankers or more dour, defensive players cos you just put stars everywhere.

That, of course, is leaving aside the fact that it will also exclude the younger posters as RUNVS spoke about.

It's certainly fun to be able to also select Hird, Voss, Cousins, Harvey, Crawford, Black, Akermanis, Ricciuto, McLeod, etc, etc, etc...but then the worst midfielders selected will be guys like Daniel Kerr, Simon Goodwin, Lenny Hayes, etc and guys like Zak Butters, Caleb Serong, Nick Dal Santo, etc will go undrafted altogether. I don't know about you - but I reckon if guys in regular Brownlow contention who have been (sometimes multiple) All Australian are not good enough to get drafted at all - the pool is probably a little too big/easy.
 
Guardian Hawk said:
In many ways, the second part of this was exactly my earlier point. I'm definitely old enough to include the 90's but if we do, there won't be any picking of "just ok" players or good role players like those being named. The teams won't resemble real teams or require any selecting of the next tier as every team will just be the elite in basically every position.

Take the half back example we have been using - with 18 teams, we need 36 half back flankers to fill the roles. Even if we only use the '21st century' eligible players - I've counted that there have been at least 32 different players named All Australian on a half back flank drafted since 2000. That doesn't count other AA's that have played chunks of their careers there like Shaun Burgoyne, Callum Mills, Elliot Yeo, Nick Daicos, Jordan Dawson, Dayne Zorko, etc, etc. It also doesn't count anyone named in a back pocket that you could easily play at half back as well - like Luke Ryan, James Sicily, Tom Stewart, Brayden Maynard, etc, etc. It also doesn't count all of the elite midfielders that you could have the luxury to select on a half back flank once the few on field midfield positions are filled (there will be tons of these). It also doesn't count the top line half back flankers who were unlucky never to be named All Australian or haven't been yet (Harry Sheezel, Kade Simpson, Hayden Young, etc.).

If you add the 90's as well, there are so many to pick from that all 18 teams will look much better than a standard All Australian team (where you can pick gun mids all over the place, etc). This makes sense, given there are 18 teams but there have been 35 All Australian teams. No one will get to the "ok" players (such as those being named in this thread) simply because we don't have to. No one will need to pick real wingers, half forward flankers or more dour, defensive players cos you just put stars everywhere.

That, of course, is leaving aside the fact that it will also exclude the younger posters as RUNVS spoke about.

It's certainly fun to be able to also select Hird, Voss, Cousins, Harvey, Crawford, Black, Akermanis, Ricciuto, McLeod, etc, etc, etc...but then the worst midfielders selected will be guys like Daniel Kerr, Simon Goodwin, Lenny Hayes, etc and guys like Zak Butters, Caleb Serong, Nick Dal Santo, etc will go undrafted altogether. I don't know about you - but I reckon if guys in regular Brownlow contention who have been (sometimes multiple) All Australian are not good enough to get drafted at all - the pool is probably a little too big/easy.
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While I do get your point, I think you're over thinking it just a little bit. Yes they will still be "super teams" compared to usual ones, but with almost 800 players selected it gives us a fairly decent AFL era top 800 (within boundaries of positional parameters).

But if the purpose is to give a Josh Hunt or Lyndsay Thomas their dues, then I get what you mean.
 
Mr Meow said:
While I do get your point, I think you're over thinking it just a little bit. Yes they will still be "super teams" compared to usual ones, but with almost 800 players selected it gives us a fairly decent AFL era top 800 (within boundaries of positional parameters).

But if the purpose is to give a Josh Hunt or Lyndsay Thomas their dues, then I get what you mean.
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Fair enough. By my calculations, there will be less than 400 selected (18 x 22) of over 3500 options - so basically the top 10% only.

It's not about guys like Josh Hunt - it's guys as good as Joel Corey or Tom Liberatore who are unlikely to even get close to selection in that scenario. People will be able to put Dangerfield in a forward pocket, Penlebury on a half back flank, etc.
 
Guardian Hawk said:
Fair enough. By my calculations, there will be less than 400 selected (18 x 22) of over 3500 options - so basically the top 10% only.

It's not about guys like Josh Hunt - it's guys as good as Joel Corey or Tom Liberatore who are unlikely to even get close to selection in that scenario. People will be able to put Dangerfield in a forward pocket, Penlebury on a half back flank, etc.
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Whoops, don't know where I got 800 from.

But yeah, I'm really not too bothered either way. Whatever the people want is fine by me.

I get that '90s-mid 2000's football (dominated by players drafted in the second half of the '90s) is a bit of a niche thing.

And Joel Corey was drafted in 1999. :( A lot of decent, very good and outstanding players were drafted a year or two before our 2000 cut off point.
 
Guardian Hawk said:
Fair enough. By my calculations, there will be less than 400 selected (18 x 22) of over 3500 options - so basically the top 10% only.

It's not about guys like Josh Hunt - it's guys as good as Joel Corey or Tom Liberatore who are unlikely to even get close to selection in that scenario. People will be able to put Dangerfield in a forward pocket, Penlebury on a half back flank, etc.
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I wonder if there will still be a spot for Mark Coughlan?
 
Fadge said:
I reckon there needs to be a cut-off followed by a Mark Coughlan type default pick...
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Was thinking this last night. When we redo from scratch everyone should be expected to nominate a player promptly. I understand some people are overseas so that might be acceptible but playing this game, it's not overly hard to have a nomination sent within a few hours. Otherwise 18 rounds is going to take forever.
 
Purple7x08_24 said:
Was thinking this last night. When we redo from scratch everyone should be expected to nominate a player promptly. I understand some people are overseas so that might be acceptible but playing this game, it's not overly hard to have a nomination sent within a few hours. Otherwise 18 rounds is going to take forever.
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Even to finish this one, maybe we should be sending player references ahead of time to RUNVS to avoid these delays. And we would certainly have to do that for 18 rounds. I get that whoever is taken in each round would then affect that but people could always simply send in an updated preference list each round or whenever they log in if they aren't on here often.
 

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Purple7x08_24 said:
Was thinking this last night. When we redo from scratch everyone should be expected to nominate a player promptly. I understand some people are overseas so that might be acceptible but playing this game, it's not overly hard to have a nomination sent within a few hours. Otherwise 18 rounds is going to take forever.
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Promptly but within reason too. I flew overseas a few days ago and was not really online for 24 hours. Other people have their own things too. As long as they are not 2 days away then it should be okay. For the most part if we get 5 or 6 selections a day that will progress things fairly quickly.
 
Mr Meow said:
Even to finish this one, maybe we should be sending player references ahead of time to RUNVS to avoid these delays. And we would certainly have to do that for 18 rounds. I get that whoever is taken in each round would then affect that but people could always simply send in an updated preference list each round or whenever they log in if they aren't on here often.
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I think Guardian Hawk will be running the next one.
 
RUNVS said:
Promptly but within reason too. I flew overseas a few days ago and was not really online for 24 hours. Other people have their own things too. As long as they are not 2 days away then it should be okay. For the most part if we get 5 or 6 selections a day that will progress things fairly quickly.
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For this one it's fine but for a 22 round version that would take over 80 days to complete.
 
Mr Meow said:
Even to finish this one, maybe we should be sending player references ahead of time to RUNVS to avoid these delays. And we would certainly have to do that for 18 rounds. I get that whoever is taken in each round would then affect that but people could always simply send in an updated preference list each round or whenever they log in if they aren't on here often.
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Buddy Franklin
Nick Riewoldt
Ablett
Judd
.....
 
Mr Meow said:
For this one it's fine but for a 22 round version that would take over 80 days to complete.
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for me, I have alerts so once I get it Ill post. If Im at work it could be 3 hours but Id be happy to prep 3 or 4 picks at the beginning of the round
 
Guardian Hawk said:
It's certainly fun to be able to also select Hird, Voss, Cousins, Harvey, Crawford, Black, Akermanis, Ricciuto, McLeod, etc, etc, etc...but then the worst midfielders selected will be guys like Daniel Kerr, Simon Goodwin, Lenny Hayes, etc and guys like Zak Butters, Caleb Serong, Nick Dal Santo, etc will go undrafted altogether. I don't know about you - but I reckon if guys in regular Brownlow contention who have been (sometimes multiple) All Australian are not good enough to get drafted at all - the pool is probably a little too big/easy.
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Had not thought about that but you are right. You want to be getting to round 12 and people beginning to struggle a bit in terms of creating a strong team compared to other people who are creating their teams.

You want some left of field selections where potentially underrated players are selected, players who are not usually in the conversation as some of the best players of their era but are still really good.

I also love the idea of creating a team from scatch and having to be really strategic in selections, the sort of players you go for early, and also the sort of team you want. Some people may love for instance to bring in 3 high quality KPF's in their first 3 rounds, and are willing to take lesser players in later rounds to achieve their desired 3 really good KPF's.

I want it to be tough too, so you have to really know what sort of players you want in the first few rounds because after that there are still great players but there is a noticable drop off, and by round 15 or 16 you are beginning to pick underrated players that others may not even consider. It is too easy if you are able to select a star in all 22 rounds of the draft.

I have an area I want to concentrate on as well, but I am not going to say it here :p
 
RUNVS said:
Had not thought about that but you are right. You want to be getting to round 12 and people beginning to struggle a bit in terms of creating a strong team compared to other people who are creating their teams.

You want some left of field selections where potentially underrated players are selected, players who are not usually in the conversation as some of the best players of their era but are still really good.

I also love the idea of creating a team from scatch and having to be really strategic in selections, the sort of players you go for early, and also the sort of team you want. Some people may love for instance to bring in 3 high quality KPF's in their first 3 rounds, and are willing to take lesser players in later rounds to achieve their desired 3 really good KPF's.

I want it to be tough too, so you have to really know what sort of players you want in the first few rounds because after that there are still great players but there is a noticable drop off, and by round 15 or 16 you are beginning to pick underrated players that others may not even consider. It is too easy if you are able to select a star in all 22 rounds of the draft.

I have an area I want to concentrate on as well, but I am not going to say it here :p
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Agreed. 24-25 National drafts + rookie, preseason and mid season drafts is enough players to choose from IMO (there will still be more All Australian teams that the number of teams selecting) without adding another decade's worth of talent (another 1000 or so players).
 
Guardian Hawk said:
Agreed. 24-25 National drafts + rookie, preseason and mid season drafts is enough players to choose from IMO (there will still be more All Australian teams that the number of teams selecting) without adding another decade's worth of talent (another 1000 or so players).
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I am of the opinion that unless you really want a dominant ruckman like Cox, Gawn or Sandilands that the 18th best ruckman of the 21st century is still likely going to be a pretty good ruckman who would not get beaten too badly by anyone.

So the top 3 ruckman, very important to get early if you want a dominant ruckman, but after that the gap between 4th and 18th likely isn't that great.
 
Guardian Hawk said:
Agreed. 24-25 National drafts + rookie, preseason and mid season drafts is enough players to choose from IMO (there will still be more All Australian teams that the number of teams selecting) without adding another decade's worth of talent (another 1000 or so players).
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Do we really want people to struggle too much, given the pace this one has crawled to in trying to get to the end of round 3? :p
 
Mr Meow said:
Do we really want people to struggle too much, given the pace this one has crawled to in trying to get to the end of round 3? :p
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Well to be fair we are being held up by one person at the moment. It was usually progressing faster. I was waking up and adding 4 or 5 selections that had been made while I was sleeping.
 
Mr Meow said:
For this one it's fine but for a 22 round version that would take over 80 days to complete.
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I'll set some ground rules including reasonable time limits and the recommendation to pass through a list of options if you know you will be away. If the time limit elapses, I will recommend that a default pick is assigned. My thought is that this default pick will be the next highest unselected player in terms of total Brownlow votes.

I know some would like to 'punish' someone who takes too long with a crap player but this will only lead to further disengagement if people end up with Barnaby French instead of Josh Kennedy.

If someone is repeatedly missing a (reasonably set) deadline (say 3 times) then we can look to replace them with someone that wants to be engaged.
 
Guardian Hawk said:
I'll set some ground rules including reasonable time limits and the recommendation to pass through a list of options if you know you will be away. If the time limit elapses, I will recommend that a default pick is assigned. My thought is that this default pick will be the next highest unselected player in terms of total Brownlow votes.

I know some would like to 'punish' someone who takes too long with a crap player but this will only lead to further disengagement if people end up with Barnaby French instead of Josh Kennedy.

If someone is repeatedly missing a (reasonably set) deadline (say 3 times) then we can look to replace them with someone that wants to be engaged.
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Or perhaps if we have enough people we can have each person possibly have a buddy, so if user A is not available they have already stated that user H is allowed to make a selection for them.
 

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