22 Under 22 - 2016

[master bate]

Backline:
- Only 3 options in the key defensive spots. Without going team by team I'm surprised their aren't more. Andrews a super talent but hasn't had the best run this year
- Docherty and Laird are locks - AA squad worthy players. Mills, Williams close. Nice to see Jayden Hunt get in the list. DBJ the best back pocket there

Midfield:
- Grundy a lock
- Cripps, Merrett, Bont locks
- Coniglio, Viney should make most teams
- Balance between inside/outside for the rest of the spots

Forwards:
- Lock in Hogan and Daniher. Moore and Wright are super talented but don't have the runs on the board
- Membrey deserves a spot as the 3rd tall
- Hard to pick the other forwards based on talent v overall output this year which should be the deciding factor

 

[strauchanie59]

Heeney will be a superstar but his output is overrated. Even if he does take some spectacular marks, 14.89 disposals and 1.32 goals per game isn't amazing. He's played three or four great games this season and had little influence in most of the remaining ones.

Fantasia averages 14.8 disposals and 1.5 goals this season, pretty much identical to Heeney's...

 

[Ambrosia]

Yeah orazio is certainly not beating out petracca, heeney and/or stringer. Thats absurd.

Not based on potential but on performance he puts a strong case forward to be in ahead of Petracca and Heeney.

 

[JDavey]

I just cant see Viney not being in there. Id have him before Merrett, Crouch and Wines based on this year.

No way he is taken over Merrett, it's not even close, would back him over Wines and Crouch though.

Heeney is a far superior player to Fantasia

This just isn't true based on this years form. Heeney has had a couple of really poor patches in 2016. Looking at the stat sheet they are neck and neck and Fantasia has played in one of the worst forward lines compared to Heeney. Based on work to date Heeney definitely has Fantasia covered for selection, but Fantasia on this years output alone isn't as far behind as you'd have others believe. Personally I think Caleb Daniel gets picked over both of them.

 

[Big Fresh]

Fantasia averages 14.8 disposals and 1.5 goals this season, pretty much identical to Heeney's...

Then why act like there's been a gulf between them?

 

[t_94]

Actually one im a little pissed about is McDonald not being on a flank. Has been more impressive than Docherty.

Thanks for pointing that our Moti

No he hasn't.

 

[Jeremias]

No disrespect to Andrews at all, but having him in there over Aliir is a headscratcher.

No it's not.

Andrews is unfortunate he plays in such a poor side. Easily one of the best young key defenders in the game & I'd certainly have him well ahead of Aliir at this stage.

 

[robertg22]

No it's not.

Andrews is unfortunate he plays in such a poor side. Easily one of the best young key defenders in the game & I'd certainly have him well ahead of Aliir at this stage.

Plus Aliir has only played 9 games this season.

 

[strauchanie59]

Then why act like there's been a gulf between them?

I'm not, he just said Heeney's output was overrated and it's very, very similar to Orazio's...so in that case, is Orazio's output overrated?

Plus Aliir has only played 9 games this season.

Ahhhh that's why. cheers for that!

 

[master bate]

I'm a technology battler so I can't link the side:
FB: Laird Lever DBJ
HB: Docherty Weitering Williams
C: Kelly Bont Hunter
HF: Cameron Hogan Heeney
FF: Fantasia Daniher Membrey
Foll: Grundy Cripps Coniglio
Int: Mills Viney Merett Stringer

 

[Halftimehero]

Fantasia averages 14.8 disposals and 1.5 goals this season, pretty much identical to Heeney's...

I think that's his point....

 

[Stifler's mom]

It saddens me that no north players made it, but i knew they wouldnt.

Our recruiting ******* suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks and our development policies are horrendous.

Very depressing.

It's ok. There are plenty of 28 year olds with a year or two left to chose from!

 

[Bomberblitzer]

I'm not, he just said Heeney's output was overrated and it's very, very similar to Orazio's...so in that case, is Orazio's output overrated?



Ahhhh that's why. cheers for that!

Well no it's not overrated because many aren't rating him as anywhere near Heeney despite the very similar output.

 

[akneal]

has taylor adams just not played enough games this season?

 

[Halftimehero]

I'm not, he just said Heeney's output was overrated and it's very, very similar to Orazio's...so in that case, is

Orazio isn't being rated, thats his whole point to this.

You said yourself the stats are almost identical, yet one is talked about as some superstar while the other isn't being rated a mention.

 

[Stifler's mom]

Billings? Last seen struggling at Sandringham?

Was going to post the same.

WTF? Seriously under what criteria does Billings belong in this side?

 

[Big Fresh]

I'm not, he just said Heeney's output was overrated and it's very, very similar to Orazio's...so in that case, is Orazio's output overrated?



Ahhhh that's why. cheers for that!

Their output is similar yet they're not rated similarly. Fair enough in general, because I'm certain Heeney will be a better player, but based on performance so far there's nothing ridiculous about putting Fantasia ahead of Heeney (not that you did say that).

 

[WCE_phil]

Did the selectors feel bad about not having a West Coast player so decided to make a token selection in Duggan? 14 pretty underwhelming games this year, can't see why he's in this squad.

The only player west coast deserves in the squad is tom barrass. Maybe dom sheed at an absolute push.

 

[t_94]

Billings has been poor at times this year, struggled with injuries a lot and hasn't been able to kick straight. Despite this he's still averaging dead on 20 disposals from 16 games. Had a couple stand out games vs Collingwood and Richmond. Will be a gun long term.

 

[james Dean]

The only player west coast deserves in the squad is tom barrass. Maybe dom sheed at an absolute push.

I agree Barrass has been impressive, but you can't include him when he's only played 5 games

 

[Stifler's mom]

Billings has been poor at times this year, struggled with injuries a lot and hasn't been able to kick straight. Despite this he's still averaging dead on 20 disposals from 16 games. Had a couple stand out games vs Collingwood and Richmond. Will be a gun long term.

Maybe, but not really relevant in this discussion.

 

[robertg22]

The only player west coast deserves in the squad is tom barrass. Maybe dom sheed at an absolute push.

Yeah as the other guy said, not enough footy from Sheed this year

 

[lamby]

FULL 22UNDER22 SQUAD

Adelaide (7): Matt Crouch, Brad Crouch, Rory Atkins, Charlie Cameron, Mitch McGovern, Rory Laird, Jake Lever.

Brisbane (1): Harris Andrews.

Carlton (3): Patrick Cripps, Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering.

Collingwood (4): Jack Crisp, Darcy Moore, Brayden Maynard, Brodie Grundy.

Essendon (5): Zach Merrett, Darcy Parish, Orazio Fantasia, Joe Daniher, Marty Gleeson.

Fremantle (1): Tom Sheridan.

Geelong (2): Lincoln McCarthy, Jake Kolodjashnij.

Gold Coast (3): Peter Wright, Jack Martin, Kade Kolodjashnij.

GWS Giants (4): Stephen Coniglio, Josh Kelly, Lachie Whitfield, Zac Williams.

Hawthorn (1): James Sicily.

Melbourne (5): Jack Viney, Christian Petracca, Dean Kent, Jesse Hogan, Jayden Hunt.

North Melbourne (0): No players selected.

Port Adelaide (2): Ollie Wines, Darcy Byrne-Jones.

Richmond (1): Nick Vlastuin.

St Kilda (3): Luke Dunstan, Tim Membrey, Jack Billings.

Sydney (2): Isaac Heeney, Callum Mills.

West Coast (1): Liam Duggan.

Western Bulldogs (5): Marcus Bontempelli, Jack Macrae, Lachie Hunter, Caleb Daniel, Jake Stringer.


Things that stand out:

• Crows!! 7 young players in the current best 22 for the Crows - without high draft picks, missing a couple of rounds (Tippet) while still playing finals and never doing a rebuild.
• Richmond 1 player? These guys are in trouble as they have been playing 'kids' for most of the year
• Roos 0 players? Ouch. Can you see a cliff coming?
• St Kilda. 3 players from a 'rebuild' team is a bit poor.

 

[RUNVS]

I would be interested to see how an under 23's team would go against an over 32's team.

 

[HolyRioli]

I would be interested to see how an under 23's team would go against an over 32's team.

You mean a Hawthorn - North Melbourne team