Player Watch #29: Joel 'Scarface' Smith – banned for four years

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I've always believed him. And I've always believed the club doctor that was unfairly dismissed. I don't believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Goodwin or Pert or any of the higher ups.
Course you have mate.
 
I heard Harmes, Spargo and Jordon were in the texts
Interesting, would make some sense of why we got rid of two of them and why we haven't seen Spargo much this preseason.

Jordon surprises me though, wouldnt have thought he'd be that kind of guy. Spargo and Harmes I could absolutely see it.
 

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Interesting, would make some sense of why we got rid of two of them and why we haven't seen Spargo much this preseason.

Jordon surprises me though, wouldnt have thought he'd be that kind of guy. Spargo and Harmes I could absolutely see it.
Doesn't mean a lot but I remember they did an interview with Clarry at some GF function and he looked absolutely munted. Harmes was also there and looked like a choir boy by comparison.
 
We did also threaten to trade Clarry.
Just doesn't feel like its the same thing.

I'll take that rumour with a grain of salt. All three of those players wanted out, we let Harmes go, had no say with Jordon and forced Spargo to stay.
 
Doesn't mean a lot but I remember they did an interview with Clarry at some GF function and he looked absolutely munted. Harmes was also there and looked like a choir boy by comparison.
Yeah, but one might have it once a week and has a sleep schedule, the other was probably up for 3 or 4 days. Lack of sleep will have you looking munted for sure.
 
Yeah, but one might have it once a week and has a sleep schedule, the other was probably up for 3 or 4 days. Lack of sleep will have you looking munted for sure.
As I said it doesn't mean a lot. Honestly, I wouldn't have picked Smith for a coke fiend before it came out so I probably have no idea.
 
Just doesn't feel like its the same thing.

I'll take that rumour with a grain of salt. All three of those players wanted out, we let Harmes go, had no say with Jordon and forced Spargo to stay.
The different is Clarry is on an 8 year contract and they were out of contract and shit.
 
The different is Clarry is on an 8 year contract and they were out of contract and s**t.
Spargo wasn't ooc and we held Harmes to his contract when he tried to retire a year ago.

The texts could have been to literally anyone. If they are players we pissed off it would be the first bit of good news in a while.
 

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Spargo wasn't ooc and we held Harmes to his contract when he tried to retire a year ago.

The texts could have been to literally anyone. If they are players we pissed off it would be the first bit of good news in a while.
I was more talking about it being Oliver not them
 
I'll admit that I have massive respect for Max for fronting up and conducting the press conference he did today even though I didn't agree with some of his arguments.

Where the actual * are our senior leaders!? Max shouldn't have to front up in front of camera and and answer the hard questions. This should be purely left up to Roffey and Pert who once again, Roffey is no where to be seen and has gone into hiding. Gutless campaigners.

Club dealing with one of the biggest off field incidents we've seen at the club in a long time and yet we could only muster up the club captain to deal with the fall out. No accountability from our senior high leaders.
Agree. It’s pretty poor.
 
I have to get this out of my system.

What a total Wally this guy is. Nobody is surprised at drugs amongst players at this or any club. 40 young men, most in the spotlight some of the time, plenty of spending money and the statistics suggest you’re going to see this stuff.

Drugs in your system on gameday in an environment where you can get spot-tested at any time is crazy dumb. Plus it’s probably not the best practice model for game preparation.

Pretty sure he isn’t a drug-dealing mastermind though. Teenagers know to send those kinds of messages in code. He should really have been offering people a pine lime splice and half a packet of cheese Doritos.
 
Plus the failure to ever really look into the problems deeply. We pushed Bartlett out and dug our heels in whenever he went to the media; 'best culture in 40 years' etc.
Some self-awareness could've made this easier
People like you believe anything the media tells you, well I tell you a fact the AFL has a hair testing list, for all players in the AFL, and the Melbourne football club is in the bottom 4 on that ladder for players testing positive, but you go on believing the bull shit, underperforming on the field in the last three seasons we have won the most games of any club s*** culture right
 

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