Preview 2nd Elimination Final, 2023: St.Kilda v GWS - MCG, Saturday 9th September, 3:20PM AEST *WEBSTER 150TH* *BATTLE 100TH*

[austinnn]

Of course. Bedford free to play us. To be the best you have to beat the best, I guess.

 

[StFly]

Of course. Bedford free to play us. To be the best you have to beat the best, I guess.

I'm waiting to see their reasons for the manifest misjudgement, will be hilarious as per usual.

 

[Sully111]

The whole system is a joke.

Surely it doesn't have to be that convoluted.

 

[#gosaintas]

Should never have been suspended anyway

 

[Saints4ever]

Just for those playing along, and I hope those that read the journey enjoyed it, Bedford is free to play for them, it got overturned.

Was always going to happen.
Oh well they have no excuse now.
Beat them at their best.

 

[Silkie]

Now or never for types like Tim, Seb and JWeb - they won't be part of the regeneration, they may not even be playing next year. Expect those guys to leave nothing in the locker and die trying.

Well not "die", but you know what I mean

Hope we get a win for these guys who have spent 90% of their careers in aggressively mediocre sides

 

[StFly]

The whole system is a joke.

Surely it doesn't have to be that convoluted.

They dunno physics, straight, so they view a lack of alternative since the AFL reps just stand up and go "I reject your voice, it's horrible, shut up" whilst the clubs reps generally try to find loopholes and errors of law, of which there are many, and so the appeal board normally just state "yeah, previous peeps screwed up, we'll do better next time". Then next time happens and same result just different road to get there.

Then MC goes "the system works!" and we rinse and repeat as Neanderthal.

Is why I brushed up on Newtons 2nd law, had a feeling at 50mins in that they were struggling to bullshit a reason to state something in motion had no force and thus was not forceful when it gets imparted into a different object of mass that was Fisher.

Over it now anyway, even if GWS make it they'll fold like the bitches they are. Just hope Bedford didn't pull a hammy in that leap from his chair in joy.

 

[Silkie]

Should never have been suspended anyway

The whole thing is a circus. Need to burn it down and start again.

 

[austinnn]

The whole system is a joke.

Surely it doesn't have to be that convoluted.

Can we appeal the appeal of the appeal?

 

[sammm]

Don’t they take that fee every time all year? I’m a Saints AFL member and every booking includes that fee I believe (totally agree with you - it’s extraordinary what they get away with).

That's what you get with a monopoly. The only way to change it is the govt forces them to break up or legislates max fee

 

[austinnn]

Hope we get a win for these guys who have spent 90% of their careers in aggressively mediocre sides

Every good team has got a mix of those kamikaze campaigners ready to go out punching. I'm thinking specifically of Darren Milburn at the Cats but there are countless examples I'm sure.

 

[bird_man]

Definitely the right call keeping Cordy in with good solid form

The next one is whether we take the risk on Ross. I’m not sure it’s a good idea.

 

[Silkie]

Every good team has got a mix of those kamikaze campaigners ready to go out punching. I'm thinking specifically of Darren Milburn at the Cats but there are countless examples I'm sure.

Milburn got his flag(s) in the end too

 

[Silkie]

Definitely the right call keeping Cordy in with good solid form

The next one is whether we take the risk on Ross. I’m not sure it’s a good idea.

Gotta risk it. No point saving him for Port/Bris if we can't make it that far without him.

 

[moirae42]

Didn't Ben Long

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81kg

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4.7

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3.3

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2.7

4star

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166.8

3star

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12.8

3star

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6.7

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6.2

4star

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3.3

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2.3

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129.0

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13.4

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3.2

4star

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3.2

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223.0

4star

get suspended because he might hurt someone?

 

[SainterinSydney]

Can you tell me which end of the stadium will have the Saint's cheer squad for the game? Thanks

 

[StFly]

Didn't Ben Long get suspended because he might hurt someone?

The hand of god!

Who knew Gaz Jnr got around, what a giggalo....

 

[PoppedCorn]

Soft. He should get off, but prob wont. Wrong skin color.

 

[austinnn]

Milburn got his flag(s) in the end too

My point exactly. We need players at the final steps to jump on grenades, to go above and beyond what a club can reasonably expect - and just maybe inspire their younger teammates to push themselves more too.

 

[phantom13]

Just for those playing along, and I hope those that read the journey enjoyed it, Bedford is free to play for them, it got overturned.

I'm waiting to see their reasons for the manifest misjudgement, will be hilarious as per usual.

The whole system is a joke.

Surely it doesn't have to be that convoluted.

I’ll have to read the reasoning (which will be ridiculous no doubt) but frankly that is staggering.

It was a one game suspensions upheld by 3 different panels. How the **** the appeals board determined that was excessive or incorrect is beyond me

 

[StFly]

I’ll have to read the reasoning (which will be ridiculous no doubt) but frankly that is staggering.

It was a one game suspensions upheld by 3 different panels. How the * the appeals board determined that was excessive or incorrect is beyond me

I liked the "we'll be sure to write it down in the future" comment in it, as if they haven't been using crayon all this time given the glaring issues with the MRO and appeals process.

 

[#gosaintas]

I’ll have to read the reasoning (which will be ridiculous no doubt) but frankly that is staggering.

It was a one game suspensions upheld by 3 different panels. How the * the appeals board determined that was excessive or incorrect is beyond me

the issue was more that the suspension was ever handed out and supported. Joke of a suspension and we would have been livid if it was a saints player

 

[gringo2011]

The whole system is a joke.

Surely it doesn't have to be that convoluted.

Looks like a court but is completely based around how the media report it.

 

[gringo2011]

the issue was more that the suspension was ever handed out and supported. Joke of a suspension and we would have been livid if it was a saints player

They usually reserve those kind of ones for us.

 

[phantom13]

I liked the "we'll be sure to write it down in the future" comment in it, as if they haven't been using crayon all this time given the glaring issues with the MRO and appeals process.

Jesus Christ, the reasoning is ridiculous.

The appeals board accepted that the mro/mrp and tribunal all were not reasonable in their assessment that the contact was high. They also accepted Fishers assertation that he did not recall any high contact (not that there was none mind you). Further to that the appeals board accepted that the mro/mrp and tribunal could not determine the force based on video. So surely that sets the precedent that you can’t adjudge force in the future without a medical report (spoiler it won’t).

the issue was more that the suspension was ever handed out and supported. Joke of a suspension and we would have been livid if it was a saints player

Sure but that’s not really the issue. You can argue alls well that ends well and I’m not begrudging Toby but 2 things.
1- any consistency and you have to argue he could have done something else, so it might not be in the spirit but it’s consistent.
2- the process here is mind boggling. 2 seperate bodies said he gets a week and the 3rd (which is really not there to judge the others judgement) decides he’s fine? It doesn’t make any sense.