AFL Player # 3: Darcy Parish

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Unrestricted free agent 2028 or 2029
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 18, doug85

 

[Pweter]

Same people who complain about stats will bring up his clearance stats that go straight to opposition or nowhere.
Who did we beat first 3 weeks with Parish?

Exactly. We've beaten "ordinary" sides with and without him, we've lost to "good" sides with and without him.

 

[citizen-erased]

Such an odd debate
We will offer a Parish a contract

He'll either accept that offer from us or from someone else and we'll decide whether to match or not

I don't see us suggesting a trade to him

 

[eth-dog]

How can that be the fault of 1 player, especially given the opposition we played during the first 8 weeks until he was injured?

I want to see how the rest of the year pans out under Scott. It's a shame he played through most of the tough block and not the last few weeks. Right now I'd prefer him to stay, that could change now that we've had a few weeks of seeing how the midfield function without him (and Setterfield as the physical unit in there).

When he comes back we're going into another solid block with 5 tough games based on current form (as opposed to preseason expectations). This will tell us plenty.

It's great to have these conversations, it shows our midfield is heading in the right direction.

I'm not saying it's the fault of Parish. I'm pointing out that much of the argument ITT about keeping him is because we apparently get destroyed in the clearances when he isn't there.

 

[Westlo]

Who did we beat first 3 weeks with Parish?

Beat 16th, 11th, 14th and 3rd with Parish

Beat 12th, 18th, 17th and 15th without him.

So we beat shit teams without him and beat a Top 4 premiership chance as well as a team in the mix for the 8 with him.

 

[Dudoro]

Such an odd debate
We will offer a Parish a contract

He'll either accept that offer from us or from someone else and we'll decide whether to match or not

I don't see us suggesting a trade to him

Obviously if he wants to stay he will. Essendon don’t let players go unless they want to. We don’t trade players or let free agents go for the overall better of the list.

 

[Dudoro]

Beat 16th, 11th, 14th and 3rd with Parish

Beat 12th, 18th, 17th and 15th without him.

So we beat s**t teams without him and beat a Top 4 premiership chance as well as a team in the mix for the 8 with him.

So does that mean we should keep him? Or let the younger mids who have played less than 10 games as mids. Caldwell, Hobbs, Martin, Perkins and Tsatas. Or just put them back in forward pockets and be content with Parish getting 35 disposals.

 

[Pweter]

Such an odd debate
We will offer a Parish a contract

He'll either accept that offer from us or from someone else and we'll decide whether to match or not

I don't see us suggesting a trade to him

In no way can i see us trying to trade him unless he wants out.

What I'm interested in seeing is how the midfield dynamic is once he returns and what it means for guys like Hobbs and Caldwell who have really stepped up over the last month.

 

[TheGrizz]

I love how everyone says we don't win the clearances when Parish isn't there. We actually have done better when he isn't there. I know the "we can't afford to lose him" crew won't like that but when Parish is there we're actually in the negatives in terms of overall clearance numbers and when he isn't we're in the positive.

The issue isn't pure clearance numbers. Look at our contested possession differentials when he isnt around.

Pure Clearance stats aren't as important as post clearance CP. Without Darcy there to hoover up loose balls like he does our midfield was made to look really shabby against Norf and for a half vs Carlton.

 

[TheGrizz]

So does that mean we should keep him? Or let the younger mids who have played less than 10 games as mids. Caldwell, Hobbs, Martin, Perkins and Tsatas. Or just put them back in forward pockets and be content with Parish getting 35 disposals.

Your argument was pointing to our pure W/L record with him vs without him with no regard for any context of opponents.
Don't move the goal posts now.

That young midfield you are referring to got their asses handed to them against North Melbourne and for a half versus Carlton - two bottom 4 teams atm.

 

[Westlo]

So does that mean we should keep him? Or let the younger mids who have played less than 10 games as mids. Caldwell, Hobbs, Martin, Perkins and Tsatas. Or just put them back in forward pockets and be content with Parish getting 35 disposals.

What does any of that crap you just typed up have to do with you acting like we've beaten better teams without him when that's far from the truth since Melbourne and Gold Coast (who you can argue have more impressive wins compared to us with Cats, Dogs, Crows) are leagues better than the shit we've beaten in the last 4 weeks.

And if Ridley didn't get subbed off against Port and we didn't choke against the Pies in the last qrt that completely changes things.

 

[eth-dog]

The issue isn't pure clearance numbers. Look at our contested possession differentials when he isnt around.

Pure Clearance stats aren't as important as post clearance CP. Without Darcy there to hoover up loose balls like he does our midfield was made to look really shabby against Norf and for a half vs Carlton.

We're shit in that with or without him.

 

[Dudoro]

What does any of that crap you just typed up have to do with you acting like we've beaten better teams without him when that's far from the truth since Melbourne and Gold Coast (who you can argue have more impressive wins compared to us with Cats, Dogs, Crows) are leagues better than the s**t we've beaten in the last 4 weeks.

And if Ridley didn't get subbed off against Port and we didn't choke against the Pies in the last qrt that completely changes things.

What have we achieved with him? Nothing more than we’re showing now. Port destroyed us in midfield and rebounded off many of his clearances

 

[Dudoro]

Your argument was pointing to our pure W/L record with him vs without him with no regard for any context of opponents.
Don't move the goal posts now.

That young midfield you are referring to got their asses handed to them against North Melbourne and for a half versus Carlton - two bottom 4 teams atm.

The key issue against North was the ball use inside 50 and having no key forward. McKay looked like Alex Rance because Weideman can’t take a contested mark.

 

[TheGrizz]

The key issue against North was the ball use inside 50 and having no key forward. McKay looked like Alex Rance because Weideman can’t take a contested mark.

Tell us you don't watch our game without telling us you dont watch our games.
If you couldn't tell that a pediatric midfield of Phillips, Wardlaw and Powell kicked the asses of the young midfield we threw out there (plus Merrett) then you can't be helped.

How many times can you change your argument before you run out anyway?

 

[Dudoro]

Tell us you don't watch our game without telling us you dont watch our games.
If you couldn't tell that a pediatric midfield of Phillips, Wardlaw and Powell kicked the asses of the young midfield we threw out there (plus Merrett) then you can't be helped.

How many times can you change your argument before you run out anyway?

You think Parishs’ defensive efforts would have stopped them?
What part of my argument has changed? Run out? I don’t rate Parish as high as many on here?

 

[Vander18]

Beat 16th, 11th, 14th and 3rd with Parish

Beat 12th, 18th, 17th and 15th without him.

So we beat s**t teams without him and beat a Top 4 premiership chance as well as a team in the mix for the 8 with him.

Plus Setterfield out last 4 and Shiel either missing or playing injured - it’s hard to assess impact of Parish missing when 2 other first choice midfielders are also out or not right.

Think it’s fair to say we played our best footy v. Dees and Pies when most or all of these guys were available. As good and Hobbs and Caldwell have been, think we are better with these guys playing.

 

[citizen-erased]

In no way can i see us trying to trade him unless he wants out.

What I'm interested in seeing is how the midfield dynamic is once he returns and what it means for guys like Hobbs and Caldwell who have really stepped up over the last month.

I think it will be good.

? for me is where shiel fits in in all of this

 

[boncer34]

Likely to sign

 

[DallasCrane316]

 

[DERO]

I'm not saying it's the fault of Parish. I'm pointing out that much of the argument ITT about keeping him is because we apparently get destroyed in the clearances when he isn't there.

I thought absence was meant to make the heart go grow fonder? Instead I am reminded that football memory lasts three weeks.

 

[dank420_]

Likely to sign

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[DERO]

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OH BABY

Take that BrunoV Dudoro eth-dog

 

[boncer34]

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Thanks.

 

[ant555]

OH BABY

Take that BrunoV Dudoro eth-dog

Not sure how that makes their opinion invalid . Not like the club has a long record of making the right decisions. I have floated the trade idea personally as far as long term list discussion goes but my mail has always been he would be staying and the club had zero interest in trades. They just have to make sure they get the right blokes around him to allow him to do what he does best.

 

[BrunoV]

OH BABY

Take that BrunoV Dudoro eth-dog

It's all fun and games until we get stuck with Parish burning all the centre clearances Draper puts down his throat.

I've listened to Cal talk about Parish and concluded that Cal doesn't watch football.