Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - Part 2

[Meteoric Rise]

still 17 days to go till free agency period opens (4/10)
that's enough time for him to pack his bags, for if he ends up sighning back up with us.. we as a club have made a huge mistake

The bloke is 26 and has been an effective part of 3 Premiership teams. He cannot be that bad.

 

[Rich01]

I listened to the BigFooty Tigercast last night and they said Jack Graham is a good chance to stay.

So he’s gone then.

 

[tigs2010]

So he’s gone then.

Oh man captain blood 17 going to come for your soul

 

[voorhees]

The bloke is 26 and has been an effective part of 3 Premiership teams. He cannot be that bad.

his past is the past..
Jack is the ideal player we need to move on. Wish him well... but please go!

 

[Hoos]

I like Graham and feel we owe him after his heroic Prelim in 2019.
Let's hope he signs on.

 

[tropicaltiger]

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im being a bit of a party pooper on Jack grahams pelim heroics but he done his shoulder cause he missed a standard easy tackle on 80kilo tom atkins.

 

[Hoos]

im being a bit of a party pooper on Jack grahams pelim heroics but he done his shoulder cause he missed a standard easy tackle on 80kilo tom atkins.

And it was 5 years ago. Has he played 5 decent games since?

 

[Lord of the Wings]

He is clearly going otherwise there is no reason why he wouldn't have signed by now.

 

[Wooden Robot]

And it was 5 years ago. Has he played 5 decent games since?

Would be like suggesting Peter Handscomb should be batting at five in the Aussie Test team.
Was ok in 2019.

 

[THE_GUN]

He is clearly going otherwise there is no reason why he wouldn't have signed by now.

He has signed but the punt road office is closed and he is waiting at the door to hand in the contract

 

[RJK Tiger]

If we sign him on the money we have been apparently offering him

 

[tora tora tora]

Would've signed by now if he was staying IMO. As long as the new Weagles coach isn't a tosser he'll go there.

Mini would be perfect for us. He loved Graham.

Lets hope he gets the gig. ex RFC coach + a few ex RFC players = great fit.

 

[captain blood 17]

Oh man captain blood 17 going to come for your soul

 

[captain blood 17]

So he’s gone then.

 

[Muddiemoose]

But how about that 19” prelim

 

[Grrr]

Probably still waiting to see who gets appointed as west coasts coach.

Funny how apart from Dan we only know the others want to go west

For a 4 year deal he could play under me and would still move.

(I took the U14's to a spoon in my only year of coaching, cheated by the ump's in the last game of the season, 50m penalty after the siren to get beaten by the side who were level with us. Tragedy.)

 

[TigerImposter]

Lets bring KB out of retirement for his efforts in the 1980 Final Series. Sick of stupid past achievements as a logic to keep a player. ESPECIALLY if they've done SFA for 4 seasons. The only way to get to the top is to improve your list with players that can play to the pace and tempo of the modern game as well as have the fit body for it. JGTI has been passed his best for too long now and is an expensive list clogger taking us nowhere. If you stand still you die and that's why we finished miserably as we've stood still for 4 seasons now .

 

[Dr Tigris]

We want to keep a solid core of experienced players, especially those that can mentor our 1/2 million draftees. That is what Graham offers now.

if he goes, OK. But I see why we would keep him. History shows that in general throwing the kids to the wolves just makes them go backwards. Protecting them and bringing them on in a good atmosphere accelerates their development.

Not all that difficult to understand I would have thought. .... Oh yeh, BigFooty.

 

[Grrr]

We want to keep a solid core of experienced players, especially those that can mentor our 1/2 million draftees. That is what Graham offers now.

if he goes, OK. But I see why we would keep him. History shows that in general throwing the kids to the wolves just makes them go backwards. Protecting them and bringing them on in a good atmosphere accelerates their development.

Not all that difficult to understand I would have thought. .... Oh yeh, BigFooty.

By all means keep him for one year, but 4 is nonsensical. He will not be best 22 next season with a full list, much less the year after with a swag of good kids coming on.

Injury free, right now he sits behind Prestia, Hopper, Taranto, Vlastuin, Balta, Lynch, Broad, Gibcus, Nankervis (9).

In our need to develop players for the future and positions we need to fill the most, you would not have him over Ross, Hugo, Browne, Miller, MacAuliffe, Mansell, Trezise, Campbell. (8).

Bauer, Gray, Green, Smith, Banks, MRJ all should be given a good look this year. He sits behind Short and in front of MacIntosh as senior players on the edge, barely best 22 as far as talent and need to play kids in front of him. That is not even mentioning our 6 odd top 20 kids from the draft.

The kids will not be thrown to the wolves, we have plenty of experience right now. If we cop injuries again, that may happen.but do you give a player a 4 year contract because of that.

If the 4 years is nonsense and it is 2 I could live with that.

 

[Dr Tigris]

By all means keep him for one year, but 4 is nonsensical. He will not be best 22 next season with a full list, much less the year after with a swag of good kids coming on.

Injury free, right now he sits behind Prestia, Hopper, Taranto, Vlastuin, Balta, Lynch, Broad, Gibcus, Nankervis (9).

In our need to develop players for the future and positions we need to fill the most, you would not have him over Ross, Hugo, Browne, Miller, MacAuliffe, Mansell, Trezise, Campbell. (8).

Bauer, Gray, Green, Smith, Banks, MRJ all should be given a good look this year. He sits behind Short and in front of MacIntosh as senior players on the edge, barely best 22 as far as talent and need to play kids in front of him. That is not even mentioning our 6 odd top 20 kids from the draft.

The kids will not be thrown to the wolves, we have plenty of experience right now. If we cop injuries again, that may happen.but do you give a player a 4 year contract because of that.

If the 4 years is nonsense and it is 2 I could live with that.

I'm not disagreeing with you. 4 seems nuts.

But I was responding to people saying he is as useless as GWS with a five goal lead.

Anyway, Graham fills a few roles, and adds to the 'leadership'. If we get a good pick back for him then all good. But he is a useful depth player, who has a great workrate and attitude. He is not a star who will turn us around. If we keep him it is just to help the kids - who will make the difference

 

[tunksy]

Rather him than Dow Macca or Cumberland staying on the list

 

[Coach_Required]

Rather him than Dow Macca or Cumberland staying on the list

I don't at least those 3 guys are made to play VFL, Graham walks straight into the senior team to spud it up.

 

[tora tora tora]

I'm not disagreeing with you. 4 seems nuts.

But I was responding to people saying he is as useless as GWS with a five goal lead.

Anyway, Graham fills a few roles, and adds to the 'leadership'. If we get a good pick back for him then all good. But he is a useful depth player, who has a great workrate and attitude. He is not a star who will turn us around. If we keep him it is just to help the kids - who will make the difference

the problem is RFC selectors are incapable of having "senior" players in the VFL.
So, on form, if Graham & Kmac stay they play 1sts. Only way out for us frustrated fans is a trade. Thanks WCE

Tom Hawkins is in their VFL team .. coming back from injury/finding form.

 

[Steely Brown Eye]

kamdyn has played a heap of vfl, he doesn’t mind the ressies, what a good chap he is

 

[Dr Tigris]

the problem is RFC selectors are incapable of having "senior" players in the VFL.
So, on form, if Graham & Kmac stay they play 1sts. Only way out for us frustrated fans is a trade. Thanks WCE

Tom Hawkins is in their VFL team .. coming back from injury/finding form.

I wonder whether that sort of thing will change as we got the full rebuild.

The coaching set up was obviously "problematic" last year. By the end, after Teague left (got the chop), we almost seemed to stop withe the whole coaching thing.

Anyway, if we are not trying to win, but tryin to learn and develop, I suspect that Ooze will look at selection differently.