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Player Watch #38 Noah Cumberland - Delisted
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Players you mentioned are all 192+ and KPP
Cumberland is 183cm and is not a tall and doesnt play tall
Coulthard
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Are the players in the cue for his spot
He was shit but so were 22 others. The vitriol in here is ridiculous.
Has played 6 full games this year.
Richmond are 0-6 in those games.
Without him in the team or playing only minor minutes, we are 9-1-4.
I am afraid as good as he can look in gaining possession at times, he is not an AFL footballer. Think he has another year on his deal, but I am pretty sure the club would be happy to give him away free to a good home.
His touch obviously wasnt great tonight, whereas if it had been then he could have appeared to have a strong offensive match. But the problem is defensively, he just switches off the minute he thinks he won't impact.
The 2019 draft currently looks like being a wipeout.
Richmond are 0-6 in those games.
Without him in the team or playing only minor minutes, we are 9-1-4.
I am afraid as good as he can look in gaining possession at times, he is not an AFL footballer. Think he has another year on his deal, but I am pretty sure the club would be happy to give him away free to a good home.
His touch obviously wasnt great tonight, whereas if it had been then he could have appeared to have a strong offensive match. But the problem is defensively, he just switches off the minute he thinks he won't impact.
The 2019 draft currently looks like being a wipeout.
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I wouldn't get hung up on sizes. You have guys like Cripps and Bont who are 193cm playing midfield. Breuest, Cameron, McCarthy, Green etc are all key position forwards, just not in the typical sense.
The days of 195cm full forwards and 185cm rovers are over. it's all about structure and roles.
Cumberland has the same skillset as all of the players I mentioned.
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Was he bad defensively?
Not saying you're wrong, but that is apparently knock and I just didn't notice. Didn't notice him and more (or less) than Coultard, Bauer or Mansell playing what I assume are similar roles
He’s a nearly man at the moment, and I don’t know if he can change that. Yes, some continuity in the firsts would help, but think it has to happen in his head.
Can someone please change that f**king kicking action! He looks all off balance when he goes to kick, and it showed tonight. How he got to AFL level not having that. Is he’d out of him is ridiculous.
Can someone please change that f**king kicking action! He looks all off balance when he goes to kick, and it showed tonight. How he got to AFL level not having that. Is he’d out of him is ridiculous.
What skill set is that ?
He is a medium foward and nothing like a KPF , Jamie Elliot , Toby Greene are the 2 players that size you could say they have that skill set
I have not seen Cumberland anywhere near that. He gets room in the foward line but thats mainly due to his man not showing him any respect and playing off him.
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Jason Castagna anyone ? Again that down to the coaches
You don't notice with Cumberland unless you really look for it because his biggest issues play out while your eye is following the ball. Once he thinks he can't impact he just switches off. What then happens is Richmond players upfield put great pressure on causing the opposition to have to turn around and go backwards. And because Cumberland has switched off there are free outlet players behind the ball for them who can take possession under no pressure. Where this happens multiple times in a match it makes a massive negative difference on the scoreboard, can literally cause 2 goal turnarounds where it happens once.
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Might as well give him #11 next year because methinks we may have found our new whipping boy.
Slotted 2 from 50 out on the boundary on the wrong side in his last vfl game. His skills are fine, just needs the confidence at afl level. That only comes with game time.
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At least give him the opportunity to fill his boots against Norf in a couple of weeks ffs.
All mental for Noah, I don't think Dimma handled the situation well with his press conferences earlier in the season which only added more pressure for Noah.
In saying that can't afford to commit some of the mistakes Cumberland committed today when you're out of the team and looking to try and get back in. Dusty missed which gave him an opportunity which he didn't take. Timing again wasn't great with no VFL last week but regardless still needs to be better.
Zero reason he couldn't give us the same output and forward target next season that Jack has given us this season, only requires us to have a genuine forward target to aim at to begin which we haven't had since round 3. Is constantly bopping up in the right spots.
In saying that can't afford to commit some of the mistakes Cumberland committed today when you're out of the team and looking to try and get back in. Dusty missed which gave him an opportunity which he didn't take. Timing again wasn't great with no VFL last week but regardless still needs to be better.
Zero reason he couldn't give us the same output and forward target next season that Jack has given us this season, only requires us to have a genuine forward target to aim at to begin which we haven't had since round 3. Is constantly bopping up in the right spots.
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I’m happy to keep playing him. Things like dropped marks at AFL level is confidence. The bigger worry for me is he doesn’t have natural footy IQ … so at 183cm in a half forward role, I’m just not sure he’ll ever provide the creativity and defensive structures needed at AFL level. But I’d be supportive of giving him games to try to develop those elements, as he can at least find the ball and has a nose for a goal.
I’ll be surprised if he makes it at AFL level, but hopefully he gets a chance.
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Keep playing him, but he still needs to improve in his concentration as he forgets to do the basics. Lots of talent and it needs to be harvested from good coaching. No young player has really fully developed in the last three years which means assistants, fitness and FD have not been doing their job. Fresh faces please as a new dynasty needs to start.
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Anyone having a go at cumbers give it up. 13 disposals, 6 marks, and 4 tackles. Kicked 1 goal and 2 behinds
Yeah made a few blunders not denying that but geez I saw seasoned players drop marks, miss handballs, and just blatant kicking errors.
If you were at the ground you would see he chased with intent. Pressured at every contest. Keep playing him and his confidence will grow.
He's a natural forward who knows where to run.
Yeah made a few blunders not denying that but geez I saw seasoned players drop marks, miss handballs, and just blatant kicking errors.
If you were at the ground you would see he chased with intent. Pressured at every contest. Keep playing him and his confidence will grow.
He's a natural forward who knows where to run.
Surely you jest? last week V dees, grimes, pickett and vlustuin all dropped sodas. Young dropped an easy mark tonight. A few of them did actually.
I am not with you on this one AT. I am not so concerned about his blunders, he would be a decent chance to fix those issues in future matches.
Who was his opponent? I noticed him on Duryea quite a bit. Duryea playing deep defence, Cumberland deep forward. Duryea had 5 score involvements. Cumberland had 4. A deep defensive orientated defender should not be having 5 score involvements, you would normally expect about 1-2. 5 is an equal season high for Duryea. I am not sure Cumbo was on Duryea all the time, but he(NC) causes the opposition to score more heavily and costs us scoring opportunities with his lax defence and pressure. If he doesn't fix it next year on the final year of his contract, it will be curtains for him.
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Just write this season off down on the poor tactics and coaching staff
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I cannot believe posters are potting him, he was our only lively forward. Could have had 3 goals, he kicks straight in the VFL, obviously feeling the pressure of playing for his spot. Ran hard, tackled hard, marked the ball, a couple of goal assists if we had kicked straight. What do you want in a forward in a side that gets pumped by 10 goals. People mark him harder than just about any player I can remember. Sink the boots into the senior players who didn't fire a shot.
On TV I noticed the ranga on Noah at stages.
Interesting metric of opponents "score involvements" to criticise his game. You work for Champion Data? I viewed the forward line INs of Cumbo, Bauer, Coultard as a combo of Miller, Mansell Cotch, Dusty. Job, 1: use Nank & Soldo vs Engish & Lobb. Which was successful as far as ruck work went but completely dominated by treloar, Libba & Bont. Out tackled. The ball lived in their half, and our backline couldn't handle it. A lot of dropped marks. Bauer dropped a sitter and made Miller look like a ball magnet. Coulthards pressure was OK but enough?
I'd've hoped Cumberland's set shot kicking would've improved, not to be. Other than that I liked his game. Fritsch ~ like.
Presents well on leads and IF the goal kicking can be fixed, then we have a great player.
In a smashing I don't know if Cumbo retains his spot.
